Imagine . . .

Hamsterchops

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one

J.W.L

Died this day in 1980.
Forty years ago!

John Lennon sitting at his million dollar piano banging on about no possessions.

Hypocritical hippy twat.

martinedwards

frightening.

I was in primary school when Elvis died so I didn't really understand. I was 14 when Lennon was killed. WOW.

dots03

Deleted User wrote: »

John Lennon sitting at his million dollar piano banging on about no possessions.

Hypocritical hippy twat.

The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.

Xtrail14

You are going places op. A winner alright.

Hamsterchops

I was dreaming of the past . . .

kowloonkev

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Lyrics are so easy to write. Music not so much.

upupup

Strange days indeed........most peculiar mama.

gifted

I get knocked down but I get up again....real songwriting there lol lol

Treppen

You don't have to imagine JL beat his first wife and kid and cheated on her. But that doesn't make for a good song.

grassylawn

Treppen wrote: »

You don't have to imagine JL beat his first wife and kid and cheated on her. But that doesn't make for a good song.

You're supposed to imagine that he's a righteous propheetic figure.

Relikk

Hamsterchops wrote: »

I was dreaming of the past . . .

Bryan Ferry, good choice.

Manach

There was a palable air of shock when the news reports filtered in, from what I remember.

grassylawn

grassylawn wrote: »

You're supposed to imagine that he's a righteous propheetic figure.

You're not supposed to gun him down on account of him being a big phony.

sbsquarepants

It is possible to separate the art from the artist you know.


Lennon could have been the biggest cúnt since Stalin, but it makes no difference to the music he created and fúck me could he make fantastic music. An out and out bona fide genius, anyone who says different just doesn't know what they're talking about!

irishguitarlad

More of a fan of his beatles stuff, fúck me revolver, sgt peppers and the White album are so good.

Pasteur.

sbsquarepants wrote: »

It is possible to separate the art from the artist you know.


Lennon could have been the biggest cúnt since Stalin, but it makes no difference to the music he created and fúck me could he make fantastic music. An out and out bona fide genius, anyone who says different just doesn't know what they're talking about!

You're assuming people have half a brain

grassylawn

Chapman was psychotic and believed he was doig the right thing. He is still being denied parole just because the person he killed was famous, even though they see him as at low risk of reoffending. I don't see why Lennon's death is viewed as more significant than other people's. It's quite unjust that they have not let hm free.

sbsquarepants

irishguitarlad wrote: »

More of a fan of his beatles stuff, fúck me revolver, sgt peppers and the White album are so good.

Amazing stuff alright - there's precious little music that still sounds listenable let alone fresh after 5 or 6 decades.

murpho999

Deleted User wrote: »

John Lennon sitting at his million dollar piano banging on about no possessions.

Hypocritical hippy twat.

So you're saying just because he was rich that he can't write a song about peace?

Treppen wrote: »

You don't have to imagine JL beat his first wife and kid and cheated on her. But that doesn't make for a good song.

He definitely had demons and was not perfect but his talent can't be denied.

B.A._Baracus

sbsquarepants wrote: »

It is possible to separate the art from the artist you know.


Lennon could have been the biggest cúnt since Stalin, but it makes no difference to the music he created and fúck me could he make fantastic music. An out and out bona fide genius, anyone who says different just doesn't know what they're talking about!

... Harvey Weinstein produced some good movies. I don't see people separating his body of work tho :pac:

Feisar

murpho999 wrote: »

He definitely had demons and was not perfect but his talent can't be denied.

I detest the "he had his demons" as an excuse. I've got mine to but guess what, I keep those fúckers locked up and don't beat my wife or child.

sbsquarepants

You keep the demons locked up, right? Not the wife and child i hope, cos that would be bad!;)

Thelonious Monk

You can almost write these discussions, the comments under journal article about his death followed the exact same path. "Amazing artist RIP",
"Oh well I'm really informed, me, you know he was actually a horrible hypocrite in real life...",
"He treated his first wife like sh*t!".
As if the rest of us are perfect, at least he made some timeless amazing music.

murpho999

Feisar wrote: »

I detest the "he had his demons" as an excuse. I've got mine to but guess what, I keep those fúckers locked up and don't beat my wife or child.

I'm not making excuses for him but he admitted in interviews that he had been bad to women and had changed his ways.

I don't see any stories of him beating his child.

Also not an excuse but it was a completely different era then with different attitudes to women and children.

Parents would hit children regularly in what would now be deemed a beating and abuse and thankfully the world has changed.

As for Lennon, I just like his musical talents that he was known for and no matter what he did, he did not deserve to be shot on the street at a young age like he was.

Adyx

Manach wrote: »

There was a palable air of shock when the news reports filtered in, from what I remember.

I like to think the news sent my mother into labour.

Thelonious Monk

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

You can almost write these discussions, the comments under journal article about his death followed the exact same path. "Amazing artist RIP",
"Oh well I'm really informed, me, you know he was actually a horrible hypocrite in real life...",
"He treated his first wife like sh*t!".
As if the rest of us are perfect, at least he made some timeless amazing music.

I'm not perfect. Not by a long shot. But I don't revere exceptionally flawed characters just because they wrote decent songs.

I can enjoy his music and still call him an arsehole.

Hamsterchops

Imagine: Long overdue credit to Yoko for much of the lyrics from her book 'Grapefruit'. The tune was 100% Lennon though ...

Aongus Von Bismarck

One of the worst songs ever recorded. It’s trite, has a plodding chorus, and the world he envisages would be boring at best, and an unmitigated disaster at worst.

sbsquarepants

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

One of the worst songs ever recorded. It’s trite, has a plodding chorus, and the world he envisages would be boring at best, and an unmitigated disaster at worst.

Seldom right and wrong again Aongus!


Song is a masterpiece, and the world it envisages sounds alright to me, a marked improvement on the one we find ourselves living in in fact.

A tad unrealistic i grant you.....but then you may say, he was a dreamer:D

sbsquarepants

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Seldom right and wrong again Aongus!


Song is a masterpiece, and the world it envisages sounds alright to me, a marked improvement on the one we find ourselves living in in fact.

A tad unrealistic i grant you.....but then you may say, he was a dreamer:D

Oh i don't know about that.

I think the world it envisages sounds ****e.

I prefer capitalism to the hippy dippy commune ****e he bangs on about.

I detest that song too.

sbsquarepants

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh i don't know about that.

I think the world it envisages sounds ****e.

I prefer capitalism to the hippy dippy commune ****e he bangs on about.

I detest that song too.

Nah, fúck capitalism....hanging about, dropping acid, banging hippy chicks - that'll do me, i'm a simple man, with simple needs:D

sbsquarepants

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Nah, fúck capitalism....hanging about, dropping acid, banging hippy chicks - that'll do me, i'm a simple man, with simple needs:D

Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

EmmetSpiceland

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Nah, fúck capitalism....hanging about, dropping acid, banging hippy chicks - that'll do me, i'm a simple man, with simple needs:D

Marxist acid.

Parabellum9

RIP in peace

Lockheed

My great aunt who worked at the Lenox Hill hospital in the upper east side of NYC actually operated on John after he was shot, met Yoko Ono and was amazed at how calm and quiet she was, and they did all they could but he was wounded so badly that even if he was in hospital the second after he was shot they wouldn't have been able to save him

bigar

sbsquarepants wrote: »

it makes no difference to the music he created and fúck me could he make fantastic music. An out and out bona fide genius, anyone who says different just doesn't know what they're talking about!

I think he is greatly overrated as a solo artist and is he is only highly regarded because he was a member of the Beatles (and rightly so). His solo work is mostly nothing special. Musically Imagine is a drab song and is only considered good because of it talking peace for all. I much prefer his Happy Xmas (War Is Over) with the same message.

Arghus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtUH9z_Oey8

Arghus

bigar wrote: »

His solo work is mostly nothing special

Have to disagree with you there. Plastic Ono Band is one of the greatest albums of all time. As good as anything he did with The Beatles IMO and so much rawer and honest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCNkPpq1giU

AllForIt

They had one good song. Imagine.

sbsquarepants

Working class hero is great too.

Hamsterchops

Jealous Guy ....

Arghus

While we're on the subject of great Lennon songs post - Beatles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9mrBxWLcbM

funnights74

kowloonkev wrote: »

Lyrics are so easy to write. Music not so much.

Didn't John Lennon credit Yoko Ono with the lyrics, it was a poem she had written in the mid sixties and later he added the music, so all the Lennon bashers here need to take that into account.
Hell he was far from perfect but he spotted a decent hit single when he saw it and any bit of criticism that came later he was more than able for.

Hamsterchops

funnights74 wrote: »

Didn't John Lennon credit Yoko Ono with the lyrics, it was a poem she had written in the mid sixties and later he added the music, so all the Lennon bashers here need to take that into account.

Absolutely, see post #28

Here's John and Yoko waiting for the maid to make their bed, so they can resume their protest in the luxury Fairmont Queen Elizabeth Hotel.

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Hamsterchops

Strawberry Fields Forever . . .

buckwheat

MikeOxsgreen wrote: »

Here's John and Yoko waiting for the maid to make their bed, so they can resume their protest in the luxury Fairmont Queen Elizabeth Hotel.

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What a pair of absolute f*****g c***s. I mean the neck on them:D:D

Oink

He’s highly respected as a rythm guitar player. Outside of the Beatles he’s written some good songs. But frankly nothing worth the hero worship he’s been getting.

Normal One

RIP Dimebag

B.A._Baracus

MikeOxsgreen wrote: »

Here's John and Yoko waiting for the maid to make their bed, so they can resume their protest in the luxury Fairmont Queen Elizabeth Hotel.

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Had to read up about that as I never knew. So it was about "protesting" over the Vietnam war. What a hippie.