Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users

Mad_maxx · 02-12-2020 06:42PM

retalivity wrote: »

I had high hopes for them when they came along, as Murphy & Shortall (even Donnelly before he jumped ship) seemed like stand-up honest politicians with integrity, and were a welcome change to the old FF/FG/SF/Lab chicanery. However, they seem to have been hijacked and disappeared so far up their own holes in pursuit of the holy grail of virtue signalling.

i never had any hopes for them but then again FG are too left wing for me

Soc Dems are just a disaffected bunch of former Labour voters who have decided to focus almost exclusively on the culture wars and progressive social policy generally , they care little for bread and butter issues from what i can see , they are the vanguard of WOKEness in this country , its why Labour feel the need to up the ante with their attempt to overturn the citizens referendum , they are being outflanked

Mad_maxx · 02-12-2020 06:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There are other sports where black people are very under represented, the reasons for a couple of these are kind of obvious, the others not so much.

Snooker, darts, Formula 1,2,3 (motorsports in general), skiing, ice hockey (up to fairly recently), horse racing, show jumping, bowling

swimming is the standout

km991148 · 02-12-2020 07:04PM

AllForIt wrote: »

Ratatatatatatatata

:pac: :pac: :pac: :pac:

02-12-2020 07:25PM

AllForIt wrote: »

The last time I was in a gay bar in Dublin some years ago a friend introduced me to a female friend of his. After the introductions she asked me if I was into politics (forget exactly how she worded it) which I though was a bit forward at that early stage. I responded with something like oh no I leave all that to others, not my thing and got back to having the craic which is what I went there for.

Years later it still bugs me she asked me that, clearly she was trying to decide which box to put me in. Also it made me mourn the good ole days when gay bars were boarded up with only men inside , and not gay society bars. Back in those days there was far more reason to be political which is kinda ironic.

Ahh, gay bars.. TBH I tend to avoid them. Oh, I started going to the George all those years ago, but it could be an incredibly creepy bar at times, with the older bitter queens. I've enjoyed a few gay bars abroad, but the problem (and bonus being bisexual) is the posse of female friends, gay guys often have, who are so informed on everything under the sun, and typically have an opinion to share too.

And yes, I'd agree with the 'being placed in a box' attitude. Getting put into a set category, after which they can ignore you because all your opinions/knowledge is already known, and therefore, easy to be dismissed.

Maxpfizer · 02-12-2020 07:43PM

Invidious wrote: »

And yet many of the woke generation, while demanding trigger warnings on classic works of literature, will happily sit through Game of Thrones' endless depictions of executions, incest, mass battles, violent hand-to-hand combat, rape, slavery, castration, torture, poisoning, human sacrifice, witchcraft, and so on. It's nuts.

Very similar in the field of videogames.

The top 10 best reviewed PlayStation 4 games all contain a pretty high level of violence with 6 of the 10 having gun violence front and center. The player is not just encouraged to use guns to complete the objectives, it's practically necessary. Grand Theft Auto and Red Dead Redemption of course being the best reviewed of all.

No worries though. No problem.

The same critics who gave these stellar reviews will also criticize the exact same games for not having enough representation.

The game is centered around shooting people dead? No problem.
The game has no playable woman characters? Big problem.
Not a big enough problem to give the game a 6 out of 10 instead of a 10 out of 10 though? Nope.

I think it's really just driven by social media and there is no obligation to avoid hypocrisy because when called out you can just ignore it and keep on going.

Should we be surprised though? History shows than it's not that uncommon to find that the extremely homophobic religious nutjob is also the guy visiting male prostitutes in his free time.

Similarly, we just don't know what the most vocal "woke" academic or twitter user is up to in their own time.

The typical guy claiming to be a male feminist and going off on others for not respecting women. Would anyone be surprised to find out that actually he's been creepily stalking a woman he's interested in for years despite her telling him "no"? Would anyone be surprised to find out that he likes to get hammered drunk and touches women inappropriately and also doesn't take "no" for an answer.

I'm not a racist! I just hate white people!

IAMAMORON · 02-12-2020 07:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've enjoyed a few gay bars abroad, but the problem (and bonus being bisexual) is the posse of female friends, gay guys often have, who are so informed on everything under the sun, and typically have an opinion to share too.

And yes, I'd agree with the 'being placed in a box' attitude. Getting put into a set category, after which they can ignore you because all your opinions/knowledge is already known, and therefore, easy to be dismissed.

Fag Hags.

They are all over the smoking area too, awful things altogether. Smell a benji off them.

AllForIt · 02-12-2020 07:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ahh, gay bars.. TBH I tend to avoid them. Oh, I started going to the George all those years ago, but it could be an incredibly creepy bar at times, with the older bitter queens. I've enjoyed a few gay bars abroad, but the problem (and bonus being bisexual) is the posse of female friends, gay guys often have, who are so informed on everything under the sun, and typically have an opinion to share too.

And yes, I'd agree with the 'being placed in a box' attitude. Getting put into a set category, after which they can ignore you because all your opinions/knowledge is already known, and therefore, easy to be dismissed.

I always though it was funny in the The Front Lounge which tried to more of an LGBT bar than a gay bar that lesbians would sit at the front section and the blokes got the better back section. That's not very inclusive is it :pac:. I mean there was no rule about it but that's the way it naturally filtered out. Reality always takes precedence over ideological opinion.

pickarooney · 02-12-2020 07:59PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Well exactly. Her career and public profile thrives and depends on her screeching racism at every turn.

Race, Ethnicity and Change in Higher Education, a new report from the Royal Irish Academy (RIA) and the British Council in Ireland, says that this lack of data may be harming the educational and career opportunities of black, Asian, Traveller and other ethnic minority students in Ireland.

List of things affecting Travellers' educational opportunities:

1. Lack of black university professors.

Anything else?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-12-2020 08:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ahh, gay bars.. TBH I tend to avoid them. Oh, I started going to the George all those years ago, but it could be an incredibly creepy bar at times, with the older bitter queens. I've enjoyed a few gay bars abroad, but the problem (and bonus being bisexual) is the posse of female friends, gay guys often have, who are so informed on everything under the sun, and typically have an opinion to share too.

And yes, I'd agree with the 'being placed in a box' attitude. Getting put into a set category, after which they can ignore you because all your opinions/knowledge is already known, and therefore, easy to be dismissed.

I think it's the same with a lot of alternative or ethnic communities: it's not the people in the group, it's the people who ty to act on behalf of the people in the group.

Trans is the same - most transgenders just want to make their life a bit happier or a bit easier, but they get tarred with the same brush as the activists and social justice warriors.

Barna77 · 02-12-2020 10:22PM

AllForIt wrote: »

The last time I was in a gay bar in Dublin some years ago a friend introduced me to a female friend of his. After the introductions she asked me if I was into politics (forget exactly how she worded it) which I though was a bit forward at that early stage. I responded with something like oh no I leave all that to others, not my thing and got back to having the craic which is what I went there for.

Years later it still bugs me she asked me that, clearly she was trying to decide which box to put me in. Also it made me mourn the good ole days when gay bars were boarded up with only men inside , and not gay society bars. Back in those days there was far more reason to be political which is kinda ironic.

Yeah, some members of the gaybourhood tend to be very political and outspoken, in a "I'm more political than you" way.
And god help you if you don't adhere to community guidelines. :rolleyes: I've had my share of discussions about Fairytale of New York already this year.

Maybe it's cynical me, but the LGBT forum here can be "hilarious", with threads ranting that someone got an odd look on the 29a bus and such :pac:

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 03-12-2020 12:13AM

km991148 wrote: »

Don't shoot me down here, but I would be genuinely interested in hearing this. I'm interested in first hand accounts of problems like this in the media.
Any idea at all where you heard this or what her name waa or anything?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I’ll try and find it!

I’m sorry, I tried. It was part of a radio interview. I put in a few search terms to Google and YouTube but no luck. I just can’t remember her name. I do remember that the station was TalkRadio UK and it was over the summer.

03-12-2020 12:48AM

https://youtu.be/ow79eUHFhp0

Worth a watch. Love this guy's commentary on things.

biko · 03-12-2020 05:21PM

A real life woke Karen

IAMAMORON · 03-12-2020 05:24PM

In fairness her shoulders are the least of her worries.

Christ on a bike ( or in a Pyramid, it gets confusing )

Sky King · 03-12-2020 05:28PM

The British Countryside is racist.

IAMAMORON · 03-12-2020 05:29PM

Sky King wrote: »

The British Countryside is racist.

Country Bamekins.

NIMAN · 03-12-2020 05:31PM

Sky King wrote: »

The British Countryside is racist.

Sweet Jesus.:rolleyes:

Salvation Tambourine · 03-12-2020 05:58PM

Sky King wrote: »

The British Countryside is racist.

“People look at me all the time and then sometimes I get comments. Often I just brush them off, but when it’s consistently pointed out to you that you don’t fit in, or when you don’t see other people like you, it does have an effect on you.”

What sort of comments would people be making to her, I'm genuinely curious, surely, surely the UK isn't that bad with racism that people are commenting on seeing a black or Muslim person out walking.

I am not like your normal white adventurer. Sometimes, prayer times fall during a walk so I might have to stop and pray, which can cause more unwanted attention and stares. It shouldn’t be something to be gawked at.

Maybe it's the fact you're having a pray during a hill walk. If someone was having a snooze on the hills I'd probably give them a few seconds look. It's not usual so expect eyes to linger longer than if you were just walking.

NIMAN · 03-12-2020 06:00PM

If many seen a white man praying on a hill, majority would give him a funny look.
It must be a hard day trying to see offending behaviour everywhere.

Salvation Tambourine · 03-12-2020 06:02PM

Also, there was article on The Guardian itself saying that BAME is deemed an offensive term.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/12/bame-term-offends-those-it-attempts-to-describe-sporting-survey-finds-sporting-equals

Morathi · 03-12-2020 06:04PM

"The British countryside remains a distinctly white and often intimidating place for BAME communities. "

I can't stop laughing at this opener.

Also:

https://twitter.com/Lobogris2018/status/1334248573899300866

I mean, when I walk the beaches of Wexford, all I think is "Feck me, where are the minorities? I must be a racist bastard"

Alejandro68 · 03-12-2020 06:42PM

Barna77 wrote: »

As read on twitter :rolleyes: "gay for pay is homophobic"
Jesus wept

(gay for pay refers to straight men working on gay porn)

As a gay man, I find this getting offended by everything infuriating

I grew up gay in the 70's and 80's,as long as my friends and family supported me, there really was no issue. We had no need to publicly announce our sexuality or demand everyone recognize and change for us. We were happy in our own groups and friends. It has all gone ridiculous now with social media.

And this pronouns nonsense is just silly,IMO.

AllForIt · 03-12-2020 07:22PM

Yeah this story about the countryside being racist has surfaced for a second time after the BBC got a lashing for it the first time around. Guess the BBC though it was a good one so they'd repeat it. Anything that highlights racism is a good thing cuz it's not talked about enough.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 03-12-2020 07:37PM

Nokotan wrote: »

Also, there was article on The Guardian itself saying that BAME is deemed and offensive term.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/12/bame-term-offends-those-it-attempts-to-describe-sporting-survey-finds-sporting-equals

I wondered about that: people who prefer "people of colour" instead of "black" use BAME....

03-12-2020 07:43PM

https://www.thejournal.ie/far-right-le-cheile-5287724-Dec2020/

Thank god, we've got the woke Avengers together to battle fascism in Ireland! Fascists everywhere!

Honest to god would these eejits just move to America rather than conjuring demons for themselves to take on. ****in hate this importation of yank social issues by these, it's as if they wish our country was worse than it is just to give themselves a bit of purpose.

Disclaimer: I absolutely support the opposition of real fascism whenever and wherever it arises. But the far right really is a non entity here - no elected representation whatsoever, they're a tiny group of random weirdos nobody takes seriously. My feeling is that the "fascists" this group will be opposing = anyone they disagree with.

03-12-2020 07:47PM

^^Composed of the following groups:

United Against Racism (Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland)
USI
Rohingya Action Ireland
All Ireland NHS Campaign
Enough is Enough Ireland
Access for All
TENI
NWCI
MASI
Action for Choice
Carlow Choice and Equality Network
Gay Community News
Doras Lumní
Irish Council for Civil Liberties
Dublin Council of Trade Unions
GARN
Sligo Travellers Support Group
UNITE the union Des Bonass 103 Branch
AKIDWA
Irish Palestinian Solidarity Campaign
Workers Solidarity Movement
Dublin Renter’s Union
Travellers of North Cork
Inner City Helping Homeless
Peter McVerry Trust
CATU D12 branch
Peadar Browns
Sisterix
Ballyfermot Anti-Racism Network
INAR Ireland
Irish Traveller Movement
Skellig Star Direct Provision Campaign
Irish Writers, Performers and Musicians Against Fascism
The Lime Tree Theatre Limerick
East Cork Traveller Project
GAZA Action Ireland
RISE
People Before Profit
Sinn Féin
Solidarity
Social Democrats
Independent Left Alliance
Ballyfermot star Addiction
Dublin Lesbian Line
Pavee Point
Bi Ireland
Refugee Support Ballaghaderreen
Extinction Rebellion Ireland

46 Long · 03-12-2020 07:51PM

Batrachotox wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/far-right-le-cheile-5287724-Dec2020/

Thank god, we've got the woke Avengers together to battle fascism in Ireland! Fascists everywhere!

Honest to god would these eejits just move to America rather than conjuring demons for themselves to take on. ****in hate this importation of yank social issues by these, it's as if they wish our country was worse than it is just to give themselves a bit of purpose.

Disclaimer: I absolutely support the opposition of real fascism whenever and wherever it arises. But the far right really is a non entity here - no elected representation whatsoever, they're a tiny group of random weirdos nobody takes seriously. My feeling is that the "fascists" this group will be opposing = anyone they disagree with.

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Alejandro68 · 03-12-2020 07:54PM

Batrachotox wrote: »

^^Composed of the following groups:

United Against Racism (Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland)
USI
Rohingya Action Ireland
All Ireland NHS Campaign
Enough is Enough Ireland
Access for All
TENI
NWCI
MASI
Action for Choice
Carlow Choice and Equality Network
Gay Community News
Doras Lumní
Irish Council for Civil Liberties
Dublin Council of Trade Unions
GARN
Sligo Travellers Support Group
UNITE the union Des Bonass 103 Branch
AKIDWA
Irish Palestinian Solidarity Campaign
Workers Solidarity Movement
Dublin Renter’s Union
Travellers of North Cork
Inner City Helping Homeless
Peter McVerry Trust
CATU D12 branch
Peadar Browns
Sisterix
Ballyfermot Anti-Racism Network
INAR Ireland
Irish Traveller Movement
Skellig Star Direct Provision Campaign
Irish Writers, Performers and Musicians Against Fascism
The Lime Tree Theatre Limerick
East Cork Traveller Project
GAZA Action Ireland
RISE
People Before Profit
Sinn Féin
Solidarity
Social Democrats
Independent Left Alliance
Ballyfermot star Addiction
Dublin Lesbian Line
Pavee Point
Bi Ireland
Refugee Support Ballaghaderreen
Extinction Rebellion Ireland

When is it going to end? They are causing more problems than they are trying to solve.**** off already. They are politicizing our lifestyles for their own beliefs.

retalivity · 03-12-2020 08:07PM

Batrachotox wrote: »

^^Composed of the following groups:
Peadar Browns

The Pub? WTF are they doing in there?
I would need to hear the stance of the Royal Breffni in Tierworker, Monaghan before I could fully commit myself.

Batrachotox wrote: »

^^Composed of the following groups:
Sinn Fein

#DiversityNotDivisionExceptProtestants

Sir Oxman · 03-12-2020 08:13PM

I imagine they have a few lesbians who don't go along with the elite LGBTQ++++++ leaders in their sights as the vanguard of fascism. :rolleyes:

When serious descriptors become umbrelled, *everyone* is racist/homophobic/sexist/transphobic etc etc

The only way to not be umbrelled is to comply and shut your fascist mouth.

Well, something had to replace the old priests.

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