Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

blue5000 · 26-11-2020 07:23PM

Always like those UK pics, just wouldn't like to be making the repayments though.

Anyone know how tight a slip clutch bolts should be? I just snugged them in as they are fairly small at 13mm.

X6.430macman · 26-11-2020 07:23PM

Reggie. wrote:

Tractors should come with a socket supplied from the battery as standard imo

Is there not a socket right beside the plug for the lights at the back and the same one in the cab for that job?

X6.430macman · 26-11-2020 07:25PM

blue5000 wrote:

Always like those UK pics, just wouldn't like to be making the repayments though.

It seems like some of the farms out here money is no object, amazing to see really

lakill Farm · 26-11-2020 08:04PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Tractors should come with a socket supplied from the battery as standard imo

this is what they are recommending. Wire it into a current system

lakill Farm · 26-11-2020 08:05PM

https://www.agriland.co.uk/farming-news/cost-of-tractor-fires-soars-to-19-million-in-the-uk/

I Didn't reread the article but worth a look

emaherx · 26-11-2020 08:53PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

https://www.agriland.co.uk/farming-news/cost-of-tractor-fires-soars-to-19-million-in-the-uk/

I Didn't reread the article but worth a look

Fair enough, but I don't think a few LED's connected to the battery of an old skidsteer with no other working electrics could be described as overloaded battery terminals.

Existing systems on modern vehicles are often connected directly to battery terminals anyway. Older machines tends to be direct to starter which is essentially the same thing just the opposite end of the + battery lead. Connecting into existing systems is more likely to overload wiring looms not designed to have additional loads.

Reggie. · 26-11-2020 08:55PM

X6.430macman wrote: »

Is there not a socket right beside the plug for the lights at the back and the same one in the cab for that job?

There is in the dini but youd be surprised at what main brands dont

X6.430macman · 26-11-2020 08:58PM

Reggie. wrote:

There is in the dini but youd be surprised at what main brands dont

That's interesting, now that you mention it I haven't seen one of those plugs on any case or John Deere (maybe there is one somewhere just not right beside the light plug)

Reggie. · 26-11-2020 08:59PM

X6.430macman wrote: »

That's interesting, now that you mention it I haven't seen one of those plugs on any case or John Deere (maybe there is one somewhere just not right beside the light plug)

Very few brands have them in the cab either

FintanMcluskey · 26-11-2020 09:03PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Anyone know how tight a slip clutch bolts should be? I just snugged them in as they are fairly small at 13mm.

Is it a slip clutch that’s part of a machine or just one incorporated into a PTO shaft?

blue5000 · 26-11-2020 09:54PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Is it a slip clutch that’s part of a machine or just one incorporated into a PTO shaft?

Part of the PTO shaft.

FintanMcluskey · 26-11-2020 10:34PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Part of the PTO shaft.

By right the generic ones should be readjusted for the machine they are fitted on I was told before.

The way I was thought was trial and error (tighten/loosen evenly until it slips under normal load) and keep all the springs equal length as it’s tightened or slackened.

After it slips under normal load tighten slightly by half a turn on each bolt. Readjust again if necessary. It’s a process that requires patience.

Sacrolyte · 26-11-2020 10:40PM

How many amps would be recommended for a jump starter booster to start a tractor. Was looking at a sip 1600 amp with 450amp max cranking rate. I’ve no idea what’s required to start a tractor.

Micheal H · 26-11-2020 11:23PM

Sacrolyte wrote: »

How many amps would be recommended for a jump starter booster to start a tractor. Was looking at a sip 1600 amp with 450amp max cranking rate. I’ve no idea what’s required to start a tractor.

It depends on the size of the tractor and how flat the battery is. A medium sized 4 cylinder tractor would have a battery rated for anywhere between 700 and 1000 CCA, so if it was well flat that booster pack wouldn't be much good to you.

A truck booster pack would really be what you'd want, but at €300+ for one you'd be better off just buying a new battery!

Sacrolyte · 27-11-2020 12:20AM

Micheal H wrote: »

It depends on the size of the tractor and how flat the battery is. A medium sized 4 cylinder tractor would have a battery rated for anywhere between 700 and 1000 CCA, so if it was well flat that booster pack wouldn't be much good to you.

A truck booster pack would really be what you'd want, but at €300+ for one you'd be better off just buying a new battery!

Ok. Thanks. I’ve delved a little deeper and am now looking at a sip 3000 rescue pack @€;270 on a Black Friday deal. Waddya reckon?

FintanMcluskey · 27-11-2020 07:21AM

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Ok. Thanks. I’ve delved a little deeper and am now looking at a sip 3000 rescue pack @€;270 on a Black Friday deal. Waddya reckon?

It would be for when you leave the lights or radio on and flatten the battery.

If you have a lazy starter or poor compression it’s unlikely to work

Sacrolyte · 27-11-2020 08:10AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

It would be for when you leave the lights or radio on and flatten the battery.

If you have a lazy starter or poor compression it’s unlikely to work

So ideally something that starts after a couple of swings.

FintanMcluskey · 27-11-2020 08:34AM

Sacrolyte wrote: »

So ideally something that starts after a couple of swings.

Ideally.

It’s still a useful unit to have though, if you remember to keep it charged

emaherx · 27-11-2020 09:29AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

If you have a lazy starter or poor compression it’s unlikely to work

Would be much cheaper to buy a high speed starter to remedy that situation and easier than messing about with boosters.

But a booster is handy for when you come out on a cold morning to discover your battery is on its last legs or just left something on over night.

Albert Johnson · 28-11-2020 06:34PM

Is an Isuzu NQR 5.2 classed as a 3.5 or a 7.5 tonne lorry?

Base price · 28-11-2020 09:54PM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Is an Isuzu NQR 5.2 classed as a 3.5 or a 7.5 tonne lorry?

I think NQR's are classed as 7.5 tonne. I used to have a 01 lwb with a flat aluminium body/timber floor and it weighed 3700kgs when I had to get it weighed to tax it. The plate will say what the net and gross vehicle weight is.

wrangler · 28-11-2020 10:06PM

Base price wrote: »

I think NQR's are classed as 7.5 tonne. I used to have a 01 lwb with a flat aluminium body/timber floor and it weighed 3700kgs when I had to get it weighed to tax it. The plate will say what the net and gross vehicle weight is.

I don't know how some get away with driving them on small truck licence with a 14ft ifor body

Albert Johnson · 28-11-2020 10:10PM

Base price wrote: »

I think NQR's are classed as 7.5 tonne. I used to have a 01 lwb with a flat aluminium body/timber floor and it weighed 3700kgs when I had to get it weighed to tax it. The plate will say what the net and gross vehicle weight is.

Thanks Base I thought that was the case but I wasn't sure. I saw a handy cattle lorry on donedeal that would suit my work but it would require a lorry license which I don't currently have.

timple23 · 29-11-2020 01:52PM

Anyone know what the correct procedure is to dispose of used oil filters? Other than chucking them into the bin.

Jb1989 · 29-11-2020 01:54PM

timple23 wrote: »

Anyone know what the correct procedure is to dispose of used oil filters? Other than chucking them into the bin.

Squashed and into scrap pile.

Waffletraktor · 29-11-2020 02:41PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Always like those UK pics, just wouldn't like to be making the repayments though.

Anyone know how tight a slip clutch bolts should be? I just snugged them in as they are fairly small at 13mm.

You'd want to be carefull making statements like that people could think your promoting elitist, snobbery views. :pac:

When your putting enough work through stuff it comes down to repairs vs repayments. Have an 09 535 quad with 9,500 hours on the clock we're wondering what to do with it. Worth 45kish but it's of the age move it tommorow morning and you could end up with a 30k repair bill 2 mins later. Had a warning shot that clutch packs are well on the way out hence hiring/demo the fendt for a few days while fitters did some work as our case dealer are going Deutz and had nothing on hand. Giving it a look about on friday and a few thousand to put some slow oil leaks and the likes right for next year nothing big just seal kits and the likes.
Probably going to trade both quads and get 1 running it 24hrs when busy as our needs have changed, been through the adventure of a second big tractor before but have a plan if big boss says yes.

Waffletraktor · 29-11-2020 02:48PM

X6.430macman wrote: »

It seems like some of the farms out here money is no object, amazing to see really

You'd have an idea of the size and workloads involved too, in saying that there's some places back with alot of wealth and some here today gone tommorow type businesses. The last 15 years of the rise of contract farming has finished many in hand family farms that see an easier life else where allowing some big farms get about.

X6.430macman · 29-11-2020 04:46PM

Which case dealer were ye with that's going to deutz?

I would have considered 400hrs on a large tractor alot before I came here, I see a tracked fendt 943 (?) on fb that had done 2700hrs in its first year!!

Mooooo · 29-11-2020 06:28PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

You'd want to be carefull making statements like that people could think your promoting elitist, snobbery views. :pac:

When your putting enough work through stuff it comes down to repairs vs repayments. Have an 09 535 quad with 9,500 hours on the clock we're wondering what to do with it. Worth 45kish but it's of the age move it tommorow morning and you could end up with a 30k repair bill 2 mins later. Had a warning shot that clutch packs are well on the way out hence hiring/demo the fendt for a few days while fitters did some work as our case dealer are going Deutz and had nothing on hand. Giving it a look about on friday and a few thousand to put some slow oil leaks and the likes right for next year nothing big just seal kits and the likes.
Probably going to trade both quads and get 1 running it 24hrs when busy as our needs have changed, been through the adventure of a second big tractor before but have a plan if big boss says yes.

Would ye have rough guide ye go off in terms of replacing in terms of hours worked etc and do ye hire in anything which would be doing under a certain amount of hours then? Was thinking here I could prob get away with just hiring a tractor when needed, wheeled loader is used more and also does more at the drop of a hat tyoe workso would need that on farm, but from the little I looked at it hiring over here seems as costly as owning/ repairing

Base price · 29-11-2020 08:28PM

wrangler wrote: »

I don't know how some get away with driving them on small truck licence with a 14ft ifor body

Some sheep farmers have long wheel based twin wheel drive Transits/Iveco Dailys/Renault Masters with 12'/14' Ifor Williams type aluminium bodies with decks that are legal to drive on a car licence. I suppose it depends on how heavy the lambs are?

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