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Tonynewholland · 25-11-2020 11:07PM

wrangler wrote: »

The gardai that didn't touch him for twenty years are worse, they should be ashamed of themselves, they're a joke

They did investigate him for something like 7 years. DPP didn’t see reason to prosecute. It’s some story the way revenue turned a blind eye to what was going on

FGR · 25-11-2020 11:32PM

Surprised how the DPP didn't action on so many statements. The fact that he was deceiving people using falsified letters from Revenue alone is enough to warrant some sort of charge. I'd be surprised if it was the guards as 7 years worth of statements would have been one massive file sent to the director.

What was it that made Revenue/The DPP so wary of pursuing him?

EDIT: I originally asked what made them 'afraid' of pursuing him but that isn't the correct context to be using.

NcdJd · 25-11-2020 11:44PM

FGR wrote: »

Surprised how the DPP didn't action on so many statements. The fact that he was deceiving people using falsified letters from Revenue alone is enough to warrant some sort of charge. I'd be surprised if it was the guards as 7 years worth of statements would have been one massive file sent to the director.

What was it that made Revenue/The DPP so wary of pursuing him?

EDIT: I originally asked what made them 'afraid' of pursuing him but that isn't the correct context to be using.

That's what I'd love to know too, I think there is a big can of worms waiting to be opened in this..

kollegeknight · 26-11-2020 06:11AM

Got the heifer back. I reckon about 220kg of meat. Had to bag her myself and in reality portion her for the most part.- butcher had left the housekeeper in big slabs.

One of the brothers showed up to give a hand. The one that always harps on about being self sufficient was working. The brother that landed into help brought a drawer from his freezer as the only space he had created- about 5kg of beef fit into it. Still wondering where he would put the other 60kg, lucky I had space
In my freezer.

Took about 5 hours.

A friend gets the cattle slaughtered in Galway and butcher makes whatever the client wants, bagged and labelled so if I do it again, it might be worth the trip.

kollegeknight · 26-11-2020 06:18AM

As for the school in Carlow- it a countrywide problem with clothes choices, and I think tackled wrong.not the distraction of male teachers. It’s usually the female teachers that cause the kerfuffle about dress code.

A neighbouring all boys school said the o Neills kit was compulsory on pe Days as it could double up as a school uniform so no changing due to Covid.

Tonynewholland · 26-11-2020 08:19AM

NcdJd wrote: »

That's what I'd love to know too, I think there is a big can of worms waiting to be opened in this..

I’d say knowing how hard it is to get the legal profession to turn on itself had something to do with it. They are basically all colleagues in a small country like Ireland. Include the DPP in that.

whelan2 · 26-11-2020 09:04AM

kollegeknight wrote: »

Got the heifer back. I reckon about 220kg of meat. Had to bag her myself and in reality portion her for the most part.- butcher had left the housekeeper in big slabs.

One of the brothers showed up to give a hand. The one that always harps on about being self sufficient was working. The brother that landed into help brought a drawer from his freezer as the only space he had created- about 5kg of beef fit into it. Still wondering where he would put the other 60kg, lucky I had space
In my freezer.

Took about 5 hours.

A friend gets the cattle slaughtered in Galway and butcher makes whatever the client wants, bagged and labelled so if I do it again, it might be worth the trip.

How much did the butcher charge you?

Nekarsulm · 26-11-2020 09:05AM

Tonynewholland wrote: »

I’d say knowing how hard it is to get the legal profession to turn on itself had something to do with it. They are basically all colleagues in a small country like Ireland. Include the DPP in that.

We bought a house in 2008, local Solicitor handled our end of things 100%.
Or so we thought.
Turned out that he never paid the Stamp Duty to Revenue, pocketed it and put it on the horses.
3 it 4 years later, the first we knew was a letter from another Solicitors office, informing us that they had taken over the practice, and that while we still owed Revenue, the Legal insurance fund ( whatever its called) was covering it.
We drove down to the original guys office immediately, to find two secretaries on their hands and knees on the floor and every inch of the floor covered in paper, as they tried to sort out the mess.
Lots of deposits, stamp duty monies etc missing.
The guy was dis-barred, and was by then in Australia, driving a taxi by all accounts.
I think he is back now, but no legal action was ever taken against him.

whelan2 · 26-11-2020 09:06AM

kollegeknight wrote: »

As for the school in Carlow- it a countrywide problem with clothes choices, and I think tackled wrong.not the distraction of male teachers. It’s usually the female teachers that cause the kerfuffle about dress code.

A neighbouring all boys school said the o Neills kit was compulsory on pe Days as it could double up as a school uniform so no changing due to Covid.

I thought all schools were the same now with covid. Pe uniform worn for the whole day of pe day. Same here o neills tracksuit bottoms and quarter zip top, school pe polo shirt. Edited to say a parent must send in a note if there is any deviation from the set uniform. Youngest lad split his trousers last week and no spare pair. Had to send in a note and fix the trousers

_Brian · 26-11-2020 09:07AM

whelan2 wrote: »

I thought all schools were the same now with covid. Pe uniform worn for the whole day of pe day. Same here o neills tracksuit bottoms and quarter zip top, school pe polo shirt

Ours didn’t have a tracksuit

whelan2 · 26-11-2020 09:10AM

_Brian wrote: »

Ours didn’t have a tracksuit

What do they wear? I thought changing rooms were out of bounds with covid

_Brian · 26-11-2020 09:13AM

whelan2 wrote: »

What do they wear? I thought changing rooms were out of bounds with covid

Tracksuits, running bottoms or leggings with sports tops.
I don’t know what guidance of any they were given as eldest is in 6th year and they don’t do PE

kollegeknight · 26-11-2020 09:15AM

whelan2 wrote: »

How much did the butcher charge you?

€280

_Brian · 26-11-2020 09:19AM

kollegeknight wrote: »

€280

We’re paying similar.
She’s been hanging nearly three wwwks and they will butcher her next week.

He rang last week for details of the butchering, what sized roasts, burgers etc.

kollegeknight · 26-11-2020 09:20AM

whelan2 wrote: »

I thought all schools were the same now with covid. Pe uniform worn for the whole day of pe day. Same here o neills tracksuit bottoms and quarter zip top, school pe polo shirt. Edited to say a parent must send in a note if there is any deviation from the set uniform. Youngest lad split his trousers last week and no spare pair. Had to send in a note and fix the trousers

We don’t have a pe uniform, a colleague and I were trying to persuade principal to consider it, just as it would look a little better at lunch etc. Plus when going to matches etc.

We do have a half zip but optional.

As for what is worn- i genuine don’t know how some of the students of any gender don’t freeze.

kollegeknight · 26-11-2020 09:30AM

_Brian wrote: »

We’re paying similar.
She’s been hanging nearly three wwwks and they will butcher her next week.

He rang last week for details of the butchering, what sized roasts, burgers etc.

you will get a lot better bang for your buck. I got the mince in kg bags.

ended up paying another €30ish in bags.

I have a few photos on the livestock thread.

orm0nd · 26-11-2020 09:37AM

kollegeknight wrote: »

Got the heifer back. I reckon about 220kg of meat. Had to bag her myself and in reality portion her for the most part.- butcher had left the housekeeper in big slabs.

One of the brothers showed up to give a hand. The one that always harps on about being self sufficient was working. The brother that landed into help brought a drawer from his freezer as the only space he had created- about 5kg of beef fit into it. Still wondering where he would put the other 60kg, lucky I had space
In my freezer.

Took about 5 hours.

A friend gets the cattle slaughtered in Galway and butcher makes whatever the client wants, bagged and labelled so if I do it again, it might be worth the trip.

There is an abattoir in east Clare. that are very good, not the 1 mentioned earlier. They may not take on new customers at this stage and Galway may be handier from your location. Just giving u the heads up.

straight · 26-11-2020 09:38AM

kollegeknight wrote: »

As for the school in Carlow- it a countrywide problem with clothes choices, and I think tackled wrong.not the distraction of male teachers. It’s usually the female teachers that cause the kerfuffle about dress code.

A neighbouring all boys school said the o Neills kit was compulsory on pe Days as it could double up as a school uniform so no changing due to Covid.

Looks like there was a big disservice done to male teachers and men in general. You just can't open your mouth any more without someone getting offended.

Lime Tree Farm · 26-11-2020 09:41AM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

We bought a house in 2008, local Solicitor handled our end of things 100%.
Or so we thought.
Turned out that he never paid the Stamp Duty to Revenue, pocketed it and put it on the horses.
3 it 4 years later, the first we knew was a letter from another Solicitors office, informing us that they had taken over the practice, and that while we still owed Revenue, the Legal insurance fund ( whatever its called) was covering it.
We drove down to the original guys office immediately, to find two secretaries on their hands and knees on the floor and every inch of the floor covered in paper, as they tried to sort out the mess.
Lots of deposits, stamp duty monies etc missing.
The guy was dis-barred, and was by then in Australia, driving a taxi by all accounts.
I think he is back now, but no legal action was ever taken against him.

This practice of paying monies over to the solicitors' accounts needs to be outlawed, cheques should be paid directly to Revenue or whoever is owed monies.

kollegeknight · 26-11-2020 09:59AM

orm0nd wrote: »

There is an abattoir in east Clare. that are very good, not the 1 mentioned earlier. They may not take on new customers at this stage and Galway may be handier from your location. Just giving u the heads up.

I’m in west Clare so east would suit better. Thanks for the heads up.

It will be a while before I’m looking but no harm in planning

patsy_mccabe · 26-11-2020 10:02AM

Solicitors are complete scum, at least the ones I've dealt with. I'm going tru absolute hell dealing with them at the moment. Over 5 years now trying to sort out someone else's mess.

Numerous times they have tried to hoodwink me, but I've held my ground. They backed down every time. Sitting across the table smirking at me. They tried to imply that I had to do certain things, which just didn't make sense to me. One guy even got angry at me when I questioned him on an issue. I even went on-line to see who I should make an official complaint to and that solicitors name was listed. You couldn't make it up.

The did the exact same thing to a close relative of mine a number of years ago. It nearly killed her. Her son told me the full story one night and he was in tears telling me.

kollegeknight · 26-11-2020 10:03AM

straight wrote: »

Looks like there was a big disservice done to male teachers and men in general. You just can't open your mouth any more without someone getting offended.

I had to speak to some lads about playing some hippity hop that was offensive to a female. It was too. And the message about respecting everyone had to be given. If Achy Breaky Heart bothers someone, I wouldn’t play is.

But Cardi B singing about the same lady parts is empowering.

I don’t understand it. All of it is tripe in my eyes.

roosterman71 · 26-11-2020 11:18AM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Solicitors are complete scum, at least the ones I've dealt with. I'm going tru absolute hell dealing with them at the moment. Over 5 years now trying to sort out someone else's mess.

Numerous times they have tried to hoodwink me, but I've held my ground. They backed down every time. Sitting across the table smirking at me. They tried to imply that I had to do certain things, which just didn't make sense to me. One guy even got angry at me when I questioned him on an issue. I even went on-line to see who I should make an official complaint to and that solicitors name was listed. You couldn't make it up.

The did the exact same thing to a close relative of mine a number of years ago. It nearly killed her. Her son told me the full story one night and he was in tears telling me.

Same happened my now deceased grand uncle. He was paying his tax to the solicitor for years, who in turn was pocketing it. All in cash too cos thats how the man rolled. Never had a cheque book and cash in the house kinda man. Anyway, after many years of this, the solicitor retired off down to Cork. Few years after that, revenue rocked up looking for over 300k. No receipts, no record of having paid the solicitor. Screwed. Granted I know the grand uncle was naïve and all, but a bitter kick in the nuts in the end. Good few elderly farmers were similarly rode.

Tonynewholland · 26-11-2020 12:32PM

roosterman71 wrote: »

Same happened my now deceased grand uncle. He was paying his tax to the solicitor for years, who in turn was pocketing it. All in cash too cos thats how the man rolled. Never had a cheque book and cash in the house kinda man. Anyway, after many years of this, the solicitor retired off down to Cork. Few years after that, revenue rocked up looking for over 300k. No receipts, no record of having paid the solicitor. Screwed. Granted I know the grand uncle was naïve and all, but a bitter kick in the nuts in the end. Good few elderly farmers were similarly rode.

Every little town in Ireland has a solicitor similar to that. Good luck trying to get another solicitor to go against him.
The government had their chance to do something when the IMF were in town but didn’t want to. Good honest hard working people being ripped off with no fear of seeing jail

patsy_mccabe · 26-11-2020 12:35PM

First thing I did here was buy a scanner. Every bit of paper gets scanned before handing over to the solicitor. Assume they're your worse enemy and you won't be disappointed.

whelan2 · 26-11-2020 01:05PM

My dad was telling me a story of a man who was left unable to work after an accident. The solicitor looked after the case and he was awarded an amount plus costs. A few years later an insurance man called to his house selling policies. The injured man said sure look at me I can't work. He told the agent what amount of a claim he got and that he had to pay costs. The agent did some digging found the amount of the payout was 20k less than had been awarded and then the costs. The solicitor had held onto the money for himself. This was in pounds and would have been a massive amount of money at the time. He got all money plus interest

26-11-2020 01:19PM

Our family had dealings with a solicitor that was looking after the wishes of a relative. The relative wanted what he had passed on while he was still alive. Needless to say that didn't occur. There was a substantial sum in the solicitors account belonging to our relative. I got sick of repetitive conversations about this guy, the older generation were slow to pull him up on anything. I took off after work and got in the solicitors door about 4.55pm. Secretary did everything she could to shift me but I'd have waited for the Gardaí to arrive tbh. After a lot of two faced **** stories, phoning the executeur, "how dare I barge into a professionals office without appointment", etc I had a cheque for that substantial amount in my pocket going out the door.

That's not the only story about the same guy, more's the pity. I've given him the benefit of the doubt that it was down to outright incompetence, but I've heard stories since that make me wonder. Either way I'll not darken his doorstep again regardless of circumstances.

_Brian · 26-11-2020 05:09PM

Took decorations down from the attic today.

Somehow it doesn’t feel right, it’s been an oddball mixed up year.

Lady Haywire · 26-11-2020 05:13PM

_Brian wrote: »

Took decorations down from the attic today.

Somehow it doesn’t feel right, it’s been an oddball mixed up year.

Was stringing up outside lights earlier as it was nice outside & felt the same. Might take my lights down again too as don't think the hanging icicle lights suit the cottage, warm twinkly ones might be nicer, more traditional.

26-11-2020 06:32PM

Our tree and decorations have been up since last weekend :rolleyes:

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