Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

KrustyUCC wrote: »

The same article is threatening further restrictions in January

If they don't allow those pubs to open it could be months down the road again

Yet RTE saying that once the restaurants and pubs serving food open there isn't appetite to close them again and they'll stay open.

Different sources saying different things

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yet RTE saying that once the restaurants and pubs serving food open there isn't appetite to close them again and they'll stay open.

Different sources saying different things

That could tie into changing the definition of pubs serving food though

Then keep them open long term

It does have an element of kite flying to it

The reaction on the Independent FB page to that section is not positive for the government

Do as I say not what I do

Any swab numbers yet?

seamus wrote: »

Nobody's lying. Nobody is saying schools don't have cases.

Just that schools aren't a major driver of transmission.

We don't have significant numbers of outbreaks in schools.

We dont and that is because kids are deemed asymptomatic to a high degree.
But yet the asymptomatic are still called the main reason for public health measures like masks and distancing.

So what is it now?

That is fantastic, wow

That's class.

The last time we had less than 200 positive swabs was 19th September. However, 190 is the lowest since 10th September (122)

polesheep wrote: »

From The Examiner:
"The Government is to allow people to visit their family members on Christmas Day — but hugging their relations will not be permitted."

The government is utterly out of touch with reality.

Is the bolded bit a quote from the government or wording from the examiner? I'm not so sure the government guidelines would state that this is not permitted, I'd imagine it would be more of a request or advisory.

I guess the usual perpetually outraged folk have fallen for that hook, line and sinker so well done to the Examiner for pissing some people off more than they already are and for undermining everyone's efforts. Bravo. Top shelf reporting.

any known backlog number?

igCorcaigh wrote: »

190

Positivity Rate
1.89%

Actual cases 543. 350 cases relate to early October but we wont say.

John O.Groats wrote: »

It`s a quote from the Examiner article. There has not been nor, as you have stated, is there likely to an official government or public health statement using that wording.

Thank you. I wish people would just stop for a second when they see headlines. We're becoming a very reactionary bunch.

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Funny how you weren't saying that when we were actually in Level 3 six weeks ago, repeatedly admonishing Government for wanting to give level 3 a chance to work rather than move with NPHET's advice immediately to Level 5. Has since been proven that the bulk of the good work was done while in Level 3. How much debt has been added and jobs have been cost by that decision?

Now though it's going the other direction it suits you to stick with 3 for a period, rather than the rush through the levels you wanted 6 weeks ago.

I think the decision to move quickly from level 3 to level 5 was the right one at the time. The context was different to how it is now - cases were rapidly escalating, we didn't have the luxury of waiting around to see if level 3 worked. They had to take decisive action and they should have taken it sooner.

Saying we can attempt to go to level three now is not the same as saying we should have stayed in level three as case numbers were going up and up. At least now cases have declined, they are still pretty high in my view, but at least the trend is downward. That's not the same situation that existed in October.

Is it an absolute certainty that level three works? No, it isn't. We'll find out soon enough. I personally think we're fooling ourselves about what the likely outcome is, but I accept that people's patience probably can't take level 5 any longer and another approach has to be trialled for a while to see how it goes. Going to level 2 straight away would be just plain stupid.