Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

hynesie08 · 23-11-2020 10:38PM

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

I really did. Disappointing. Why wait until the following week? Plenty are ready to stock up and open the doors.

And plenty aren't because they haven't been told anything. Plus allowing barstaff to get the pup double week before going back to work is *whispers* actually pretty decent........

PTH2009 · 23-11-2020 10:38PM

Better than nothing I suppose. Go out early get the cheapest food possible and stay for a few pints after

hynesie08 · 23-11-2020 10:41PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Better than nothing I suppose. Go out early get the cheapest food possible and stay for a few pints after

You'll find a reason to complain anyway, it's all you've done for 9 months.

MelbourneMan · 23-11-2020 10:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So you reckon pubs should be kept close when there is no evidence to suggest they were at fault for the rise in numbers when they were opened for a few weeks

It would be most prudent to keep them closed yes. It is not a question of being at fault, more a sensible precaution to reduce person to person contact when non essential, and where the benefit does not outweigh even the small risk of transmission of the virus.

There would seem to be abroad a view that restriction on activities should be determined exclusively on the transmission risk. This is too simplistic an analysis, and there are more complicated factors considered in determining the correct actions for suppression of transmission of the virus. Public houses would be deemed to be low on the scale of social contact events worth countenancing considering the current levels available to maintain low virus case numbers.

PTH2009 · 23-11-2020 10:51PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

You'll find a reason to complain anyway, it's all you've done for 9 months.

I'm not the only one, This is Ireland its in our nature too complain

Still don't think it's right that non food pubs who have spent money on renovations are not allowed because of predictions

23-11-2020 10:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So you reckon pubs should be kept close when there is no evidence to suggest they were at fault for the rise in numbers when they were opened for a few weeks

I just don't get the constant clamour to re-open pubs given the restrictions they'd currently have to open under. Going to the pub should be a social experience, having a chat with the bar staff when you order your round, chatting to person next to you while you're waiting. Checking in on the old shady lad who's always on his own to see what the craic is. Strolling out for a smoke and chatting to whoever you bump into outside.

Very little of that is going on - if things are being adhered to. So - what you're left with is six lads or whatever sitting around a table and basically raising your hand to ask if it's ok to go for a slash. (Yeah, I'm exaggerating but not that much.)

You'd be just as well sitting around a mates kitchen table with a well stocked fridge and a few decent bottles of spirits.

showpony1 · 23-11-2020 11:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I just don't get the constant clamour to re-open pubs given the restrictions they'd currently have to open under. Going to the pub should be a social experience, having a chat with the bar staff when you order your round, chatting to person next to you while you're waiting. Checking in on the old shady lad who's always on his own to see what the craic is. Strolling out for a smoke and chatting to whoever you bump into outside.

Very little of that is going on - if things are being adhered to. So - what you're left with is six lads or whatever sitting around a table and basically raising your hand to ask if it's ok to go for a slash. (Yeah, I'm exaggerating but not that much.)

You'd be just as well sitting around a mates kitchen table with a well stocked fridge and a few decent bottles of spirits.

I think most people go with and far rather enjoy going to the pub with 6 mates than the nonsense you described in first paragraph. I highly doubt what everyone is clamoring all this time for is to chat to "the old shady lad on his own".

MrStuffins · 23-11-2020 11:10PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Schools should be kept closed so if we are trying to contain the virus

Take that rubbish to the schools thread, or the whataboutery thread. This one is about pubs!

23-11-2020 11:14PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Take that rubbish to the schools thread, or the whataboutery thread. This one is about pubs!

Yeah this one is about pubs and pubs should be reopened. No reason to keep them closed. Another fcuking clown against pubs reopening

23-11-2020 11:19PM

showpony1 wrote: »

I think most people go with and far rather enjoy going to the pub with 6 mates than the nonsense you described in first paragraph. I highly doubt what everyone is clamoring all this time for is to chat to "the old shady lad on his own".

I was trying humour to make the point that social-distancing and pubs do not go hand in hand. Going to the pub is about being able to enjoy the whole pub and the possibility of chatting to others outside your group - otherwise you might as well be sat at home with your six mates.

Like what's the difference - here's your table - now don't move from it for the next few hours except for a smoke or a slash and don't talk or interact with any of the others in the pub unless you're shouting at them from 2 metres away.

MrStuffins · 23-11-2020 11:21PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah this one is about pubs and pubs should be reopened. No reason to keep them closed. Another fcuking clown against pubs reopening

No need for the personal abuse.

If you want the pubs to be open, at least put forward something better than "If you don't like it, don't go"

I'm for allowing the pubs to open with restrictions. The ones that were in before are fine. Let's go again!

23-11-2020 11:31PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

No need for the personal abuse.

If you want the pubs to be open, at least put forward something better than "If you don't like it, don't go"

I'm for allowing the pubs to open with restrictions. The ones that were in before are fine. Let's go again!

Apologies for the personal abuse

. I just think its disgraceful how pubs are being treated. As i said in a post earlier i was in a couple of my local pubs when they were allowed to open and they were well organised and there were no issues with them. They spent thousands of euros to put measeurements in place to reopen and then they were closed again after a few weeks

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 23-11-2020 11:36PM

Food pubs, great :rolleyes:

showpony1 · 23-11-2020 11:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I was trying humour to make the point that social-distancing and pubs do not go hand in hand. Going to the pub is about being able to enjoy the whole pub and the possibility of chatting to others outside your group - otherwise you might as well be sat at home with your six mates.

Like what's the difference - here's your table - now don't move from it for the next few hours except for a smoke or a slash and don't talk or interact with any of the others in the pub unless you're shouting at them from 2 metres away.

Prior to this I used to go out for football for the day on Sundays and was good to meet friends in a pub for the day rather than someone put their house up and drink at home which wouldn't have been common before Covid. I'd say that's more a thing teenagers would do than lads in their 20s/30s.

Drinks, Food, Atmosphere, getting out of the house, not having to worry about the other people living in the house, noise, clean up etc.

We wouldn't be particularly out to chat to strangers - that would be more a night in town.

Now i have subscription for nearly every game televised and conditioned to drink at home - so be interesting to see how it'll be as even when it was the 105 mins sittings it was a pain as you'd only get to see one of the 3 matches we'd want to watch that day and have to rush home then so wasn't really worth it bar the initial novelty.

23-11-2020 11:58PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Food pubs, great :rolleyes:

Great fun for all the family and Timmy the dog. More excitement to be had in a morgue. Ivy and holly drinkers who gingerly sip their pinot and weepie at home having their annual knees up. Puke.

23-11-2020 11:59PM

showpony1 wrote: »

Prior to this I used to go out for football for the day on Sundays and was good to meet friends in a pub for the day rather than someone put their house up and drink at home which wouldn't have been common before Covid. I'd say that's more a thing teenagers would do than lads in their 20s/30s.

Drinks, Food, Atmosphere, getting out of the house, not having to worry about the other people living in the house, noise, clean up etc.

We wouldn't be particularly out to chat to strangers - that would be more a night in town.

Now i have subscription for nearly every game televised and conditioned to drink at home - so be interesting to see how it'll be as even when it was the 105 mins sittings it was a pain as you'd only get to see one of the 3 matches we'd want to watch that day and have to rush home then so wasn't really worth it bar the initial novelty.

Yeah, fair enough. Different strokes for different folks I guess. In Dublin, in my experience, it's as much about chatting with randomers during the night as it is about hanging with the lads.

weldoninhio · 24-11-2020 01:06AM

1966 wrote: »

This is the problem. In my town our only Restaurant Pub completely abused the situation and will 100% do so again. No pressure to buy food / knife & fork out on each table, no time limit, place packed. I could go on. This will happen again in a couple of weeks while the other pub businesses in the town, willing to tow the line remain closed. An utter farce.

How many deaths from that pub?

Suckit · 24-11-2020 01:21AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

How many deaths from that pub?

23 if it's the same one i'm thinking of.

Eric Cartman · 24-11-2020 02:23AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Food pubs, great :rolleyes:

Having to have a 9 euro meal in some ‘family friendly’ rathole is going to kill my christmas. Id absolutely love to say stay home with friends and cans but with the pubs closed so long i know ill be obliged to go take a seat at a table , pretend to be even remotely interested in double priced chicken wings just so I can try skull 9-10 Guinness into me to start me on my usual 3 day christmas bender.

I cant enjoy the usual ‘eating is cheating’ end up blind drunk, beg the pub to serve me a last one at 5 to 12. Christmas ruined.

Eric Cartman · 24-11-2020 02:26AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Great fun for all the family and Timmy the dog. More excitement to be had in a morgue. Ivy and holly drinkers who gingerly sip their pinot and weepie at home having their annual knees up. Puke.

This is the worst part, nowhere anyone would dare be a regular of will be open, and the pubs that full time drinkers will be forced to resprt to will be filled with these types, limited table space taken up by people who havent had a real hangover in 15 years since they went to a michael buble concert with the only sexual partner theyve ever had

madmax72 · 24-11-2020 02:56AM

So we look like we are going back to the way it was in Dublin before the lockdown...no wet pubs open and restraunts and bars with food open.how long before the numbers go up again.This is madness....signed a longstanding barman

Richard Hillman · 24-11-2020 03:45AM

I wonder what the correlation is between people who are pro-restrictions but also have sexless relationships.

I just can't imagine a perennially headached woman or a poorly performing male who keeps his socks on and his positions safe saying "f**k restrictions, open pubs".

Or an absolute stallion packing 8+inches saying, "we need to listen to the experts. This virus is real. We must have one year without a proper Christmas to protect the vulnerable. Pubs must stay closed".

Some serious questions need to be asked.

The White Wolf · 24-11-2020 09:06AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Food pubs, great :rolleyes:

One good thing about the last 8 months is that it made me realise how much I loathe eating when having a few pints. 6/7 pints can do me fine without "soakage" and I'm not falling around the place. Don't bother with takeaways or anything like it when I was a demon for it before.

It's just a ludicrous rule that is connected to the central problem we've had during this pandemic; public won't trust each other to get on with it fuelled by the government's ineffectual application of their restrictions. The government should be leading here by accepting the reality that the virus will be here for a long time, and give support to the ones who have difficulty accepting that while the rest of us get on with it.

LuasSimon · 24-11-2020 09:59AM

How worse off are publicans closed than open ?
Do all the employees get 350 a week which for some is close to that they earn on minimum wage anyways . The public an themselves gets pup ? and was there not a number of grants given to publicans as well ? Would this not cover most average pubs incomes ?

stephenjmcd · 24-11-2020 10:03AM

LuasSimon wrote: »

How worse off are publicans closed than open ?
Do all the employees get 350 a week which for some is close to that they earn on minimum wage anyways . The public an themselves gets pup ? and was there not a number of grants given to publicans as well ? Would this not cover most average pubs incomes ?

In short no it doesn't.

Just because your closed doesn't mean bills stop. The grants don't cover near enough and they were on off. The cris is weekly but its miniscule

If you think what's available covers the avergae income then your living in another world.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 24-11-2020 10:09AM

Absolute misery Christmas.

pjohnson · 24-11-2020 10:18AM

Christmas ruined because Wet Pubs aren't open :pac:

Some people need to dial down the hyperbole :pac:

opinionated3 · 24-11-2020 10:20AM

Wouldn't say it's ruined, but yeah it won't be the same for a lot of people and looks like it will be as boring as you could possibly get. Not much reward for the last six weeks of restrictions. ...
Not to mention all the workers who will be stuck on 350 euro a week in the run up to the big day.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 24-11-2020 10:33AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Christmas ruined because Wet Pubs aren't open :pac:

Some people need to dial down the hyperbole :pac:

Wet pubs.

You mean a pub.

MrStuffins · 24-11-2020 10:36AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Food pubs, great :rolleyes:

Deleted User wrote: »

More excitement to be had in a morgue.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Having to have a 9 euro meal in some ‘family friendly’ rathole is going to kill my christmas.

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Absolute misery Christmas.

Such entitled nonsense! I'd imagine you lads would have been the kids to kick the dog around the house on Christmas morning because your ma couldn't get you a PS5!

Good news for the rest of us that you'll be leaving your misery at home with you while the rest of us are enjoying our Christmas with a few Chicken Wings, Arthur G. and The Fairytale of New York! Can't wait!

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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