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COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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    #6722
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users Posts: 7,658 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Any chance the people voting no could explain why? Do you want to go back to normality or not?


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    #6723
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,208 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    El Sueño wrote: »
    Any chance the people voting no could explain why? Do you want to go back to normality or not?

    Probably little to no idea why.

    Some anti vax ramblings no doubt with no insight into the process behind this vaccine. Oh and the usual big company only out for money etc etc


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    #6724
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    El Sueño wrote: »
    Any chance the people voting no could explain why? Do you want to go back to normality or not?

    Based on Pandemrix and Gardasil ...... and on other reasons. Dont trust the companies based on past performance.
    Not convinced there are enough people dying to warrant a vaccine.
    Not keen on using Stem cells for religious and ethical reasons.

    For the person rushing into this and calling me an anti vaxxer, you go get the vaccine and I will go my way. You dont have to worry about it because the vaccine will look after you and the world will have one less antivaxxer.


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    #6725
    noserider
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭noserider


    Listening to Luke O Neill on 6 o clock show. He was saying by March we should have the health care workers and elderly vaccinated.


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    #6726
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    There's a poll already in the main vaccine thread, I'm not sure why we need another one

    The other poll has had over 1,000 people taking part. I'd give that more credence over this


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    #6727
    Steve012
    Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    There's a poll already in the main vaccine thread, I'm not sure why we need another one

    The other poll has had over 1,000 people taking part. I'd give that more credence over this

    I didn't see it, sorry bout that.


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    #6728
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Probably little to no idea why.

    Some anti vax ramblings no doubt with no insight into the process behind this vaccine. Oh and the usual big company only out for money etc etc

    Or perhaps, because the vaccine was created under massive pressure and with extraordinary urgency some pro-vax people would prefer to wait a year or so.


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    #6729
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,208 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    polesheep wrote: »
    Or perhaps, because the vaccine was created under massive pressure and with extraordinary urgency some pro-vax people would prefer to wait a year or so.

    While still undergoing the same safety testing and scrutiny as every other vaccine, easily researchable.

    As another poster said there's a full thread on this don't see why there's another.


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    #6730
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    There's a poll already in the main vaccine thread, I'm not sure why we need another one

    The other poll has had over 1,000 people taking part. I'd give that more credence over this

    It's a thread that attracts people who are pro-vax, myself included, so is therefore skewed. A standalone poll will give a better insight.


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    #6731
    SouthWesterly
    Registered Users Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Based on Pandemrix and Gardasil ...... and on other reasons. Dont trust the companies based on past performance.
    Not convinced there are enough people dying to warrant a vaccine.
    Not keen on using Stem cells for religious and ethical reasons.

    For the person rushing into this and calling me an anti vaxxer, you go get the vaccine and I will go my way. You dont have to worry about it because the vaccine will look after you and the world will have one less antivaxxer.

    Reason's as above.
    2 to 1 against so far


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    #6732
    flazio
    Registered Users Posts: 12,940 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    The alternative to taking the vaccine is what we have right now. And I don't like what we have right now.


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    #6733
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Hollohan’s words on the vaccine this evening. “ Encouraging news” and “ substantial degree of hope”


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    #6734
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    While still undergoing the same safety testing and scrutiny as every other vaccine, easily researchable.

    As another poster said there's a full thread on this don't see why there's another.

    There will always be an element of time required. There are people who prefer to wait a while before they get one of these vaccines.


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    #6735
    opinionated3
    Registered Users Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    noserider wrote: »
    Listening to Luke O Neill on 6 o clock show. He was saying by March we should have the health care workers and elderly vaccinated.

    Is that not on the slow side of delivery? I mean when should we expect first deliveries of the actual vaccines into the country to commence distribution??


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    #6736
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,208 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    polesheep wrote: »
    There will always be an element of time required. There are people who prefer to wait a while before they get one of these vaccines.

    Grand so would you prefer on going restrictions then ? Because that's the alternative like we have now if there isn't a decent uptake

    Sooner we're out of this mess the better and a vaccine is a means to an end


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    #6737
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Grand so would you prefer on going restrictions then ? Because that's the alternative like we have now

    If I felt vulnerable at all I would take it straightaway. I don't see the need for restrictions if the vulnerable have had a vaccine so I don't see why that should be the alternative.


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    #6738
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users Posts: 7,658 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Vaccine certificates for travelling and other activities will be a thing in the near future in my opinion.
    It'll be interesting to see how many on here change their tune once that inevitably happens.


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    #6739
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,767 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Threads merged


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    #6740
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    polesheep wrote: »
    It's a thread that attracts people who are pro-vax, myself included, so is therefore skewed. A standalone poll will give a better insight.


    :confused:

    How do you make that out?

    A thread is a thread. It'll attract posters from both sides


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    #6741
    Russman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,859 ✭✭✭Russman


    https://youtu.be/h19kG5gnY44

    I know it’s on Indian TV, but interesting interview with Adrian Hill about the Oxford vaccine. He’s positively beaming.


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    #6742
    eleventh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭eleventh


    Unless you want to put yourself at risk of (serious) illness, stay away from vaccines - all of them.


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    #6743
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    :confused:

    How do you make that out?

    A thread is a thread. It'll attract posters from both sides

    That's not true. This thread is very specifically aimed at those with an interest in vaccine development. It's parameters for discussion are very tightly defined. I think it is the wrong decision to merge these threads. I'm aware that the new thread would have attracted anti-vaxxers but it would also have enabled discussion by those hesitant or unsure and the poll would have given a more general view. Poor decision in my opinion.


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    #6744
    flazio
    Registered Users Posts: 12,940 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    eleventh wrote: »
    Unless you want to put yourself at risk of (serious) illness, stay away from vaccines - all of them.

    And live behind a perspex visor all my life? Pass.


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    #6745
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Some amount of waffle in this thread again re: vaccines being dangerous and the great reset.

    Give it a break lads. There are forums for that stuff.

    That's because of the thread merge. I think this thread should have been left unsullied.


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    #6746
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    polesheep wrote: »
    That's because of the thread merge. I think this thread should have been left unsullied.




    Good spot!


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    #6747
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    flazio wrote: »
    And live behind a perspex visor all my life? Pass.

    Have you actually seen anyone die from it that didnt have an underlying condition?


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    #6748
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    noserider wrote: »
    Listening to Luke O Neill on 6 o clock show. He was saying by March we should have the health care workers and elderly vaccinated.

    Seems quite slow, hopefully it won't be this slow.

    I believe the UK said they will vacinate all eldery and HCW by January?

    Spain says they plan to have the entire population vaccinated by spring


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    #6749
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,202 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Good article here on Katalin Karikos, the woman who cracked the RNA technology. Nobel prize on the way, I'm sure;
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/nov/21/covid-vaccine-technology-pioneer-i-never-doubted-it-would-work


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    #6750
    Miike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Some amount of waffle in this thread again re: vaccines being dangerous and the great reset.

    Give it a break lads. There are forums for that stuff.

    and some wonderful medications too.


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    #6751
    Miike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Have you actually seen anyone die from it that didnt have an underlying condition?

    With my own two eyes? Yep.


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