Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

briany · 23-11-2020 02:55PM

Inquitus wrote: »

Has any reputable publication charted a path for any of these cases to end up at least being considered for consideration by the SCOTUS?

The only thing that bringing any of these cases in front of the SCOTUS would achieve is to try and give an air of legitimacy to the hot air that Trump's legal team is spewing, i.e. that here is this case in front of the very highest court in the land, so it must mean something.

Whether it even can get to the Supreme Court I don't know, but the judges who Trump appointed would want to be loyalists to him to a degree unseen in modern U.S. history to actually turn around and find some merit in cases which have had lower court judges waving the cases off and saying, "getthef*ckouttamyface...", basically.

ohnonotgmail · 23-11-2020 02:57PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Equally so of those that don't like Trump. Weeks on from an election, that is over and people still talking about it.

It is not over until midday on Jan 20th.

Quin_Dub · 23-11-2020 03:01PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It is not over until midday on Jan 20th.

Is it not over on December 14th when the Electoral College vote?

I know Trump will continue to whinge on , but surely all legal avenues are done and dusted at that point?

Once the EC have voted I don't think there is a pathway to overturn that vote.

Although , as we are discovering it's probably just precedent and good manners protecting it and not actual laws!

km991148 · 23-11-2020 03:01PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Equally so of those that don't like Trump. Weeks on from an election, that is over and people still talking about it.

ye - fair enough - tbh - I personally gave up caring so much - I will happily post a throwaway comment for the likes tho - It's not only trump that has a fragile ego :pac:

There is nothing to be done at this stage. The current situation sucks. It really is screwing over anyone who is suffering (COVID etc), but I don't see it changing anytime before Jan.

ohnonotgmail · 23-11-2020 03:18PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Is it not over on December 14th when the Electoral College vote?

I know Trump will continue to whinge on , but surely all legal avenues are done and dusted at that point?

Once the EC have voted I don't think there is a pathway to overturn that vote.

Although , as we are discovering it's probably just precedent and good manners protecting it and not actual laws!

In the normal course of events it would be over already. this is not an ordinary course of events.

Quin_Dub · 23-11-2020 03:20PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

In the normal course of events it would be over already. this is not an ordinary course of events.

Oh totally agree , just wondering if there are actual opportunities to continue to litigate the result after the EC has voted.

drogon. · 23-11-2020 03:21PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Is it not over on December 14th when the Electoral College vote?

I know Trump will continue to whinge on , but surely all legal avenues are done and dusted at that point?

Once the EC have voted I don't think there is a pathway to overturn that vote.

Although , as we are discovering it's probably just precedent and good manners protecting it and not actual laws!

Man will be still be posting on Twitter 2 years from now, how he actually won and it was stolen from him!

Quin_Dub · 23-11-2020 03:24PM

drogon. wrote: »

Man will be still be posting on Twitter 2 years from now, how he actually won and it was stolen from him!

Probably won't be on Twitter though , they will kick him to the kerb fairly quickly after January 20th.

Probably Parler or whatever "Free-speech" platform is out there after Parler inevitably either fails or introduces rules around posting after they get sued a few times.

namloc1980 · 23-11-2020 03:30PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Oh totally agree , just wondering if there are actual opportunities to continue to litigate the result after the EC has voted.

Republicans can object to the actual counting of the EC votes in January which is usually a formality. Where the vote is certified and one slate of electors is approved there should be no issue. But they could in theory drag out the counting process indefinitely to frustrate the final approval of Biden.

Lewis_Benson · 23-11-2020 03:37PM

maebee wrote: »

Did you not see the Mod's post? It's right above your post. The monkey has been thread banned and won't be answering any more questions posed to him.

Ahhh, nó i missed that.

VinLieger · 23-11-2020 03:51PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Republicans can object to the actual counting of the EC votes in January which is usually a formality. Where the vote is certified and one slate of electors is approved there should be no issue. But they could in theory drag out the counting process indefinitely to frustrate the final approval of Biden.

Doesn't matter if the EC still hasn't been calculated for whatever reason they might find to ratfvck the situation, by January 20th there must be a new presidential administration and next in line hilariously is Nancy.

everlast75 · 23-11-2020 03:55PM

F**king cowards

https://twitter.com/carlbernstein/status/1330710305354129410?s=20

namloc1980 · 23-11-2020 04:03PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Doesn't matter if the EC still hasn't been calculated for whatever reason they might find to ratfvck the situation, by January 20th there must be a new presidential administration and next in line hilariously is Nancy.

The House could elect Biden as Speaker of the House to ensure he takes up the presidency if that happened. There's no requirement that the Speaker must be a member of Congress. It would be comical if they did that......Trumpists heads would explode.

eagle eye · 23-11-2020 04:04PM

everlast75 wrote:

F**king cowards

Why are they cowards? Men with a bit of honesty is what I'm seeing.

gmisk · 23-11-2020 04:07PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Why are they cowards? Men with a bit of honesty is what I'm seeing.

Bar possibly Romney have any of them consistently spoke out?

ohnonotgmail · 23-11-2020 04:08PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Why are they cowards? Men with a bit of honesty is what I'm seeing.

for remaining silent

eagle eye · 23-11-2020 04:08PM

gmisk wrote:

Bar possibly Romney have any of them consistently spoke out?

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

ohnonotgmail · 23-11-2020 04:10PM

eagle eye wrote: »

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

they haven't spoken out. Bernstein has outed what they have been saying privately.

Smee_Again · 23-11-2020 04:11PM

eagle eye wrote: »

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

Because doing so now takes no strength of character, Trump has been beaten. Where were they when it might have made an actual difference.

seamus · 23-11-2020 04:12PM

eagle eye wrote: »

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

They haven't spoken out. That's the point. Publically they back Trump because he's a Republican president, and refuse to tell him to stand aside.

Privately, they despise the man. But refuse to speak against him.

That's why they're cowards.

gmisk · 23-11-2020 04:15PM

eagle eye wrote: »

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

Huh?
Have 21 spoke out now? or are you just going by a tweet that says those 21 are not happy?!
Not the same thing.

VinLieger · 23-11-2020 04:20PM

eagle eye wrote: »

So they decide they've had enough and speak out. How does that make them cowards?

They haven't spoken out though, telling Bernstein or whoever his sources are in private that's trumps an idiot while remaining silent or even openly supporting trump in public is incredibly cowardly

Quin_Dub · 23-11-2020 04:23PM

seamus wrote: »

They haven't spoken out. That's the point. Publically they back Trump because he's a Republican president, and refuse to tell him to stand aside.

Privately, they despise the man. But refuse to speak against him.

That's why they're cowards.

If nothing else , Trump has exposed how utterly amoral most of the GOP are.

When he first started out, they were giving their true feeling about him - See Lindsey Graham for example , but then all of a sudden they were like "Oh hang on he's popular, better pretend to like him"

They have no morals or actual beliefs beyond Power , most people knew this but Trump utterly exposed that.

The Democrats go to the other extreme with their ridiculous "purity tests" etc. but the GOP care about nothing as long as they have power.

23-11-2020 04:29PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Why are they cowards? Men with a bit of honesty is what I'm seeing.

Bernstein says as much in terms of how they've actively avoided ousting him even though they view him as unfit to be president.

https://twitter.com/carlbernstein/status/1330710307052814336?s=19

eagle eye · 23-11-2020 04:31PM

Apologies, I thought they'd all spoken out.

timsey tiger · 23-11-2020 05:48PM

everlast75 wrote: »

F**king cowards

https://twitter.com/carlbernstein/status/1330710305354129410?s=20

Not all, at least Romney and Sass have done it publically too.

walshb · 23-11-2020 05:52PM

I said it from the start

Trump is not the problem

It is those aiding and abetting and encouraging him....

He thrives on this, and at times, plays to the gallery....

It is what is expected of him...

I think those backing him make even more a divisive and polarizing and dangerous individual...

Tell me how · 23-11-2020 05:52PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Why are they cowards? Men with a bit of honesty is what I'm seeing.

Because they had 4 years to show their honesty and most chose not to.

Anyone exhibiting drastically different behaviour now is trying to change the way in which their own behaviour will have been viewed throughout this period.

It will continue. Once Trump finally leaves, the only ones left singing his praises will be his die hard conservative fans and his very close family members. Expect many more, even the likes of Mike Pence or Nikki Halley to say that they were only respecting the office and trying to be guide him towards the right choices when they try to continue their careers with an eye on the White House at a later date.

valoren · 23-11-2020 06:04PM

The GOP are keenly aware that Trump, an abusive, egotistical and notoriously thin-skinned individual, has just received over 70 million votes. They do not want to incur the inevitable ire and abuse from Trump tweeting to his subscribers. They steer clear of that metaphorical drowning man in case they get dragged under with him, they thread water from a safe distance and wait for the inevitable while watching him trash and holler, in denial at how doomed he is. They are in a precarious and sensitive position. Support Trump, and the baseless conspiracy theories, and be seen to denigrate democracy or publically shun him and get targeted on Twitter by a malignant narcissist with a penchant for pathological lying. They are akin to the person who rides a tiger and who fears to dismount i.e. if they were to get off then they are very likely to get mauled by the Tiger.

everlast75 · 23-11-2020 06:04PM

How this nonsense will impact the January elections will be noteworthy.

Already, those in the firing line are worrying that Trump's behaviour will affect their chances

https://twitter.com/SamWangPhD/status/1330697784241090560?s=20

Ideally, this will result in a huge spat between the republicans allegedly quoted and Trump, and it will be akin to two F1 drivers from the same team taking each other out on track

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