Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Leroy42 · 23-11-2020 12:45PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There's 73 million+ people she can claim to represent.

She can claim to represent the entire planet, doesn't make it true.

Has she been given access to the Trump team evidence, has she had conversations with the POTUS? Given that she is clearly not working for him, then anything they discussed is not covered by privilege.

She could be open to some very serious questions

ohnonotgmail · 23-11-2020 12:46PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I read it wrong and edited it straight away when I realized the mistake. That chap did claim to invent email at one stage, I didn't claim he did, I said he claimed he did. There's a difference.

you said

Here's the chap who invented email

so you did claim he invented email.

drunkmonkey · 23-11-2020 12:46PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

That's the equivalent of "Yeah, well I didn't want to go to your silly birthday party anyway , I'm having my own Party and it will be way better than your party with way better cake!"

Possibly, or let's say she has something, it's quite possible it's not good for either party. Trump wins but at what cost.

drunkmonkey · 23-11-2020 12:47PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you said
so you did claim he invented email.

He claimed it.

ohnonotgmail · 23-11-2020 12:48PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He claimed it.

you didn't say he claimed he invented it. you said he invented it. the language you used is very clear and unambiguous.

Smee_Again · 23-11-2020 12:48PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Here's the chap who invented email, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I read it wrong and edited it straight away when I realized the mistake. That chap did claim to invent email at one stage, I didn't claim he did, I said he claimed he did. There's a difference.

You said he invented email, it's there in black and white.

You didn't say he claimed to have invented email, you clearly said "Here's the chap who invented email". Why are you lying about it when it's so clear and obvious.

You were probably trawling through twitter looking for someone with decent credentials who could back up your claims and you landed on this guy.

23-11-2020 12:49PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I read it wrong and edited it straight away when I realized the mistake. That chap did claim to invent email at one stage, I didn't claim he did, I said he claimed he did. There's a difference.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Here's the chap who invented email, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20

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drunkmonkey · 23-11-2020 12:59PM

I don't for one second believe or ever thought that guy invented email. You had all lost your minds over my professor typo, I went and changed it to something completely unbelievable. Yet here were are and you think I think he invented email. Fake news hate to break it.

Quin_Dub · 23-11-2020 01:02PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Possibly, or let's say she has something, it's quite possible it's not good for either party. Trump wins but at what cost.

She absolutely categorically doesn't.

If she had something , they wouldn't have kicked her off the team because they have nothing either.

There is no evidence of widespread fraud
There is no evidence of a major conspiracy to steal the election
There is no evidence of a software hack to change votes
There is not evidence that Trump won the election

If they had evidence , they would have shown it by now , they haven't and they have lost each and every case.

This idea that they are holding evidence back for some later case or for the supreme court is laughable.

Specifically for the Supreme court , they cannot introduce new evidence there , that's not how it works.

Imagine a scenario where you were convicted of a crime - Robbing a bank for example.

You cannot go to the Supreme court and submit a video proving that you were elsewhere at the time of the crime or video proof that someone else did it.

That's not what they do - If you were denied the ability to submit said videos in the lower court because the Judge said they were inadmissible on some technicality , THEN you might be able to go to the Supreme Court and argue that the decision the judge made was wrong based on the law.

If the Supreme Court agreed , you don't get out of jail - You have to go back to the lower court and submit your video and see if that changes the judge/juries mind.

Trump (incorrectly) believing that he can "fail upwards" to the Supreme Court because he thinks he has friends there is consistent with his world-view.

He has "failed up" his entire life.

Necro · 23-11-2020 01:03PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You do know I edited that for the giggle, I knew one of you would take the bait. Bravo sir.

Mod:

Threadbanned

robinph · 23-11-2020 01:03PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I don't for one second believe or ever thought that guy invented email. You had all lost your minds over my professor typo, I went and changed it to something completely unbelievable. Yet here were are and you think I think he invented email. Fake news hate to break it.

So you made that edit 12 days ago in the hope that it would be brought up now and you could claim to have had some premonition about how the thread would now be going?

23-11-2020 01:03PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I don't for one second believe or ever thought that guy invented email. You had all lost your minds over my professor typo, I went and changed it to something completely unbelievable. Yet here were are and you think I think he invented email. Fake news hate to break it.

Of course you did. Why else would you post the tweet of someone who you would then instead think has no credibility?

Don't try to lie your way out of it just because you're embarrassed by it.

Zubeneschamali · 23-11-2020 01:17PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Right now I think anything is possible, as he says himself never bet against him.

But lots of people bet against him, and already collected their winnings, because he lost and is now a loser.

He lost GA twice already and is going for the hat-trick.

Smee_Again · 23-11-2020 01:18PM

DM's antics over the last few pages are fairly indicative of Trump supporters as a whole, even when faced with irrefutable proof of their own lies they refuse to acknowledge them.

For some people there really is no hope.

ohnonotgmail · 23-11-2020 01:19PM

robinph wrote: »

So you made that edit 12 days ago in the hope that it would be brought up now and you could claim to have had some premonition about how the thread would now be going?

that is really playing the long game

Necro · 23-11-2020 01:19PM

Mod:

Don't think there's any need to keep quoting the poster now, they are not permitted to respond.

Thanks folks

km991148 · 23-11-2020 01:19PM

Sometimes I wonder if the real Trump posts here..

Smee_Again · 23-11-2020 01:21PM

km991148 wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder if the real Trump posts here..

Not enough CAPS.

eagle eye · 23-11-2020 01:23PM

So Trumps camp is trying to defer certification by the looks of things.
I'm not sure how that can work for him as it's Congress that has to accept any late certifications isn't it?

km991148 · 23-11-2020 01:23PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

Not enough CAPS.

SOMETIMES I WONDER IF THE REAL TRUMP POSTS HERE..

maebee · 23-11-2020 01:23PM

Necro wrote: »

Mod:

Don't think there's any need to keep quoting the poster now, they are not permitted to respond.

Thanks folks

Great news. The monkey business was absolutely destroying the thread. Thanks Mod.

Lewis_Benson · 23-11-2020 01:39PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's only just begun.

Any update on that?

maebee · 23-11-2020 01:47PM

Lewis_Benson wrote: »

Any update on that?

Did you not see the Mod's post? It's right above your post. The monkey has been thread banned and won't be answering any more questions posed to him.

robinph · 23-11-2020 02:35PM

eagle eye wrote: »

So Trumps camp is trying to defer certification by the looks of things.
I'm not sure how that can work for him as it's Congress that has to accept any late certifications isn't it?

I'm not certain which part of the confirmation of the various results it is at (Congress, the EC votes or something else), but saw something that if a state doesn't certify or have their EC votes counted then Trump still loses as the calculations change and the total required becomes less that 270. So Trump basically needs California or New York not to have their votes counted to be in with a chance with the methods he's trying as most other states being excluded would still leave Biden with over 50% of the remaining EC votes.

Inquitus · 23-11-2020 02:38PM

maebee wrote: »

The monkey has been thread banned and won't be answering any more questions posed to him.

Such a loss to the thread as a whole, sigh, can't convey how gutted I am we won't have to trawl thru his trolling nonsense on a daily, nay hourly basis!

23-11-2020 02:39PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Lol who's posting fake news now.

You as always.

Still standing over your claims that trump doesn't write his tweets for example?

23-11-2020 02:43PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

DM's antics over the last few pages are fairly indicative of Trump supporters as a whole, even when faced with irrefutable proof of their own lies they refuse to acknowledge them.

For some people there really is no hope.

You mean they have a bit of an agricultural odour from them?

Quin_Dub · 23-11-2020 02:45PM

eagle eye wrote: »

So Trumps camp is trying to defer certification by the looks of things.
I'm not sure how that can work for him as it's Congress that has to accept any late certifications isn't it?

The "theory" is that if a State fails to certify its results one of two things could happen.

The local leadership - Governor or State Congress would decide the winner themselves and send forward their own slate of Electors. Hence Trumps meeting with the Michigan House and Senate leaders over the week-end. He hopes that the Michigan certification process ends in deadlock , it's 2 GOP and 2 Democrat people on the State certification committee , thereby flipping the decision to the State house controlled by the GOP.

The other scenario is where the State results aren't certified as above , but instead of sending alternative Electors , they just say "we can't decide the winner , so we're going to sit this one out" thereby meaning that neither side gets the votes from that State, potentially preventing either candidate from reaching 270 which is when it would get kicked to Congress to resolve - Senate picking the VP and the House picking the President.

For this to be successful ,Trump would need at least 3 States of the "contested" to do one or other of the above scenarios.

It is HIGHLY unlikely to happen and even if a State legislature were crazy enough to try to pull either of the above strokes the general legal consensus is that it would get over-turned immediately in court because as with all the cases thus far , there isn't any real evidence to support making those decisions.

Inquitus · 23-11-2020 02:47PM

Has any reputable publication charted a path for any of these cases to end up at least being considered for consideration by the SCOTUS?

hotmail.com · 23-11-2020 02:54PM

km991148 wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder if the real Trump posts here..

Equally so of those that don't like Trump. Weeks on from an election, that is over and people still talking about it.

Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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