Clerical Officer 2020

Dublintigger · 20-11-2020 10:47AM

Folks –

Before you turn down an offer in the Service - just be aware that if you have previous experience in the service - either as a perm role or as a TCO, you can bring your experience/time in the service to the attention of your new HR department. If you have 12 months or more in the service, this will help you get further up the pay scale……. I am speaking from experience here.

Don’t knock the fact you are initially starting on point one – things can move fast if you qualify.

If you are career orientated, and in a good Department, (i.e. DPER, Justice or Foreign Affairs), once you have completed you probation successfully, your progression as a civil service is well supported.

Another note – in the private sector (regardless of which company) you are not always guaranteed yearly increments, you are not guaranteed permanency, you are not always guaranteed promotion or career progression and you are not guaranteed a pension.

Jd292190 · 20-11-2020 10:58AM

Dublintigger wrote: »

Folks –

Before you turn down an offer in the Service - just be aware that if you have previous experience in the service - either as a perm role or as a TCO, you can bring your experience/time in the service to the attention of your new HR department. If you have 12 months or more in the service, this will help you get further up the pay scale……. I am speaking from experience here.

Don’t knock the fact you are initially starting on point one – things can move fast if you qualify.

If you are career orientated, and in a good Department, (i.e. DPER, Justice or Foreign Affairs), once you have completed you probation successfully, your progression as a civil service is well supported.

Another note – in the private sector (regardless of which company) you are not always guaranteed yearly increments, you are not guaranteed permanency, you are not always guaranteed promotion or career progression and you are not guaranteed a pension.

Agree 100% you can be stung in the private sector pretty bad, especially in these times. I know people have different commitments and financial needs but personally I would take the initial hit in order to reap the future rewards and opportunities.

Red Honeysuckle · 20-11-2020 11:40AM

Mike Foxtrot wrote: »

yes.

I thought AGs was attorney General and Garda staff are under Depf of Defence?

Dublintigger · 20-11-2020 11:55AM

Red Honeysuckle wrote: »

I thought AGs was attorney General and Garda staff are under Depf of Defence?

AGS - An Garda Siochana who are paid under the Dept of Justice.

ellejay · 20-11-2020 04:10PM

yenom wrote: »

Take it. There are some great benefits. 22 days holidays, 12 flexi days, 6 fexi half days, Good Friday off etc. Every ten years, the country goes into recession but you'll still have a job.

Hi is there a general rule or guidelines as to how flexitime works please.

I'm just trying to get an understanding of how it might work.
Someone posted the general hours are 9am to 5:45 so for example, could you do 8am to 4:45, take half an hour lunch, so actually finish at 4:15.
Do you have to agree your flexitime hours in advance?
Also could you do shorter hours one day and longer hours the next day to make up.

shmeee · 20-11-2020 06:03PM

ellejay wrote: »

Hi is there a general rule or guidelines as to how flexitime works please.

I'm just trying to get an understanding of how it might work.
Someone posted the general hours are 9am to 5:45 so for example, could you do 8am to 4:45, take half an hour lunch, so actually finish at 4:15.
Do you have to agree your flexitime hours in advance?
Also could you do shorter hours one day and longer hours the next day to make up.

Different departments have different flexi rules.

You have to be in the office at set times, 10am - 12.20pm and 2.30pm to 4pm is one example of one of the offices. So you can clock in at 10am, take a 2 hour lunch and finish at 4pm.

And then work the extra hours another day to make up your 37 hours for the week.

Majority do 8am/8.30am to 4.30pm/5pm if they can, take half hour lunch. That's 8 hours and gives you 36 mins flexi then per day onto your clock.

Finish at 4pm say on a Friday and you've worked up 2 hours 24 minutes per week. The flexi week is over a 4 week period so build up the flexi time then.

Again all departments are different. Some have rota's due to covering phones, customer desks ect. But you know well in advance on them days. But worst case you may have to stay till 5pm and be in for 9am.

Bicyclette · 20-11-2020 06:05PM

ellejay wrote: »

Hi is there a general rule or guidelines as to how flexitime works please.

I'm just trying to get an understanding of how it might work.
Someone posted the general hours are 9am to 5:45 so for example, could you do 8am to 4:45, take half an hour lunch, so actually finish at 4:15.
Do you have to agree your flexitime hours in advance?
Also could you do shorter hours one day and longer hours the next day to make up.

The Core Hours are 10am - 12.30pm and 2.30pm - 4pm. You MUST be at work during those times. You also need to take a minimum of 30 minutes Lunch Break leaving no earlier than 12.30pm and returning no later than 2.30pm.

The flexi time is worked up in Month 1 and taken in Month 2 etc. And certainly where I am working, no need to agree the time you work up in advance. But you do need to let your EO know when you are taking your flexi - if you can. Sometimes if there is an emergency you can just use flex time worked up.

Yes, you can work shorter one day and longer the next e.g. 10am to 4.30pm on a Monday, 8am - 7pm on a Tuesday etc. In that regard, it is fabulous. If you are on e.g. the School Run on a Monday you can work around that, and then play catch up with your time on a Tuesday.

As long as you work 148 hours per month, less any flexi or annual leave taken and are working for the core hours, you are fine. Because the working day is 7h24, if you work from e.g. 8am - 4pm each day and just take exactly 30 minutes lunch per day, you will have 30 minutes flexi built up each week. That is 2 hours. Work 1h42 extra one evening and you have your 1/2 day off the next month.

ellejay · 20-11-2020 07:49PM

shmeee wrote: »

Different departments have different flexi rules.

You have to be in the office at set times, 10am - 12.20pm and 2.30pm to 4pm is one example of one of the offices. So you can clock in at 10am, take a 2 hour lunch and finish at 4pm.

And then work the extra hours another day to make up your 37 hours for the week.

Majority do 8am/8.30am to 4.30pm/5pm if they can, take half hour lunch. That's 8 hours and gives you 36 mins flexi then per day onto your clock.

Finish at 4pm say on a Friday and you've worked up 2 hours 24 minutes per week. The flexi week is over a 4 week period so build up the flexi time then.

Again all departments are different. Some have rota's due to covering phones, customer desks ect. But you know well in advance on them days. But worst case you may have to stay till 5pm and be in for 9am.

Bicyclette wrote: »

The Core Hours are 10am - 12.30pm and 2.30pm - 4pm. You MUST be at work during those times. You also need to take a minimum of 30 minutes Lunch Break leaving no earlier than 12.30pm and returning no later than 2.30pm.

The flexi time is worked up in Month 1 and taken in Month 2 etc. And certainly where I am working, no need to agree the time you work up in advance. But you do need to let your EO know when you are taking your flexi - if you can. Sometimes if there is an emergency you can just use flex time worked up.

Yes, you can work shorter one day and longer the next e.g. 10am to 4.30pm on a Monday, 8am - 7pm on a Tuesday etc. In that regard, it is fabulous. If you are on e.g. the School Run on a Monday you can work around that, and then play catch up with your time on a Tuesday.

As long as you work 148 hours per month, less any flexi or annual leave taken and are working for the core hours, you are fine. Because the working day is 7h24, if you work from e.g. 8am - 4pm each day and just take exactly 30 minutes lunch per day, you will have 30 minutes flexi built up each week. That is 2 hours. Work 1h42 extra one evening and you have your 1/2 day off the next month.

Thanks that's really helpful.

furrybones · 20-11-2020 11:07PM

ellejay wrote: »

Hi is there a general rule or guidelines as to how flexitime works please.

I'm just trying to get an understanding of how it might work.
Someone posted the general hours are 9am to 5:45 so for example, could you do 8am to 4:45, take half an hour lunch, so actually finish at 4:15.
Do you have to agree your flexitime hours in advance?
Also could you do shorter hours one day and longer hours the next day to make up.

If you're working remotely then flexi time is suspended right now. It really all depends on which Dept you're in and the nature of the work you're doing. You need to talk to your line manager and come to agreement around your working hours.

My own situation is that I can sign in and out on my own specified hours (within reason - no point being in work from 5am if I'm needed up to 5pm) as long as my my hours are worked each month. I typically do 8-4 with a 30 minute lunch break.

L390 · 21-11-2020 09:00AM

Has anyone phoned their contact person prior to starting...due to start 7th dec was going to ring them next week just to be in contact ..is this the norm or should I leave it ..just dont want.to just turn up on the day

Rikand · 21-11-2020 10:58AM

L390 wrote: »

Has anyone phoned their contact person prior to starting...due to start 7th dec was going to ring them next week just to be in contact ..is this the norm or should I leave it ..just dont want.to just turn up on the day

Tis no harm to give them a shout. If you want, use an enquiry about the dress code as a means of making contact

L390 · 21-11-2020 11:03AM

Rikand wrote: »

Tis no harm to give them a shout. If you want, use an enquiry about the dress code as a means of making contact

Yeah I was thinking that ....thank you

happylad21 · 21-11-2020 03:18PM

What Departments are people getting offered in Dublin at the moment?

Are you allowed to request to be transferred to a particular department that you would like to work in once your in?

telebingo94 · 21-11-2020 05:49PM

happylad21 wrote: »

What Departments are people getting offered in Dublin at the moment?

Are you allowed to request to be transferred to a particular department that you would like to work in once your in?

As far as I know you have to work in the given department minimum 12 months before applying for a transfer.

Jd292190 · 21-11-2020 07:29PM

happylad21 wrote: »

What Departments are people getting offered in Dublin at the moment?

Are you allowed to request to be transferred to a particular department that you would like to work in once your in?

I’ve seen a few positions assigned in AGS, DSP and of course Customs over the past weeks on this forum. There are a lot of positions to be filled DSP apparently, I’m a TCO there at the moment and one of the HEO’s said this. They also said if you get a permanent position you are able to apply for mobility on day one. As far as I’m aware that’s re. location and department.

Nigel Fairservice · 22-11-2020 02:32AM

Jd292190 wrote: »

I’ve seen a few positions assigned in AGS, DSP and of course Customs over the past weeks on this forum. There are a lot of positions to be filled DSP apparently, I’m a TCO there at the moment and one of the HEO’s said this. They also said if you get a permanent position you are able to apply for mobility on day one. As far as I’m aware that’s re. location and department.

You can join the waitlist but you have to do at least 2 years in your current location to be eligible for a move.

Tashajulia1993 · 22-11-2020 10:01AM

Does anyone know what OOM on batch 15 they're up to now? Or when they might be on batch 16?

ellejay · 22-11-2020 02:18PM

Nigel Fairservice wrote: »

You can join the waitlist but you have to do at least 2 years in your current location to be eligible for a move.

Hi

A friend got a position in Dept of Ag marine and food but the location is dublin port.
Unfortunately they were happily googling away the address on Kildare Street but the location is Dublin blinking Port.

Do you know if you can be moved internally just to another location or are they stuck there now for two years please.

Nigel Fairservice · 22-11-2020 02:33PM

ellejay wrote: »

Hi

A friend got a position in Dept of Ag marine and food but the location is dublin port.
Unfortunately they were happily googling away the address on Kildare Street but the location is Dublin blinking Port.

Do you know if you can be moved internally just to another location or are they stuck there now for two years please.

There is a mobility list operated by People Point to move within Dublin now as well. I think the People Point mobility list takes precedence over any other kind of transfer these days. I'd say the usual 2 year rule applies. There may be some flexibility on a case by case basis if there are extenuating circumstances but I think a reason of just not liking your location wouldn't be enough.

ellejay · 22-11-2020 04:58PM

Nigel Fairservice wrote: »

There is a mobility list operated by People Point to move within Dublin now as well. I think the People Point mobility list takes precedence over any other kind of transfer these days. I'd say the usual 2 year rule applies. There may be some flexibility on a case by case basis if there are extenuating circumstances but I think a reason of just not liking your location wouldn't be enough.

Thanks for that.
They live and wicklow and don't drive so banking on public transport.

Rikand · 22-11-2020 06:40PM

ellejay wrote: »

Hi

A friend got a position in Dept of Ag marine and food but the location is dublin port.
Unfortunately they were happily googling away the address on Kildare Street but the location is Dublin blinking Port.

Do you know if you can be moved internally just to another location or are they stuck there now for two years please.

If they live more than 45km from the place of work, they can refuse it on that grounds and wait for something closer to home to pop up.

Or you could in the 2018 campaign at least

Tashajulia1993 · 23-11-2020 11:23AM

Does anyone know what OOM on batch 15 they're up to now? Or when they might be on batch 16

doc22 · 23-11-2020 12:37PM

ellejay wrote: »

Hi

A friend got a position in Dept of Ag marine and food but the location is dublin port.
Unfortunately they were happily googling away the address on Kildare Street but the location is Dublin blinking Port.

Do you know if you can be moved internally just to another location or are they stuck there now for two years please.

Internal moves I'd say could be facilitated after probation(1year) but would the port release you is another matter after training you and having to find a replacement.

St. Pat · 23-11-2020 01:02PM

Has anybody been called for Westmeath lately? I received an email regarding expressions of interest for customs in Athlone however I don't have a driving licence which is a requirement.

paintitwhite · 23-11-2020 01:07PM

With this being a 1 year panel, is there likely to be another competition next March?

November Golf · 23-11-2020 01:58PM

doc22 wrote: »

Internal moves I'd say could be facilitated after probation(1year) but would the port release you is another matter after training you and having to find a replacement.

I would agree with you, most custom roles i think have a three year contract, i doubt they would release anyone for mobility / internal moves until their time is served.

lass1 · 23-11-2020 02:57PM

Hi, I have just checked my Garda vetting and it’s not moved since the 12th is this normal?
TIA

Samuel T. Cogley · 23-11-2020 03:02PM

lass1 wrote: »

Hi, I have just checked my Garda vetting and it’s not moved since the 12th is this normal?
TIA

If you've been recruited for An Garda Siochana then it will take weeks (possibly months), otherwise generally it's quite quick. Lots of things can delay it though, if you've ever had a run in with AGS then they have to write to the Guard through channels and that can take some time.

newbie18892 · 23-11-2020 03:39PM

Anyone been called for interview in Dublin in the past while?

tiny14 · 23-11-2020 04:07PM

Anyone update on limerick/ tipp?

Clerical Officer 2020

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