Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

Deeper Blue · 22-11-2020 04:05PM

The_Brood wrote: »

Well Covid 19 doesnt go on holiday during Christmas, does it?

I always cringe when people personify the virus like this

eagle eye · 22-11-2020 04:12PM

I've spent my Christmas Day in my parents house for 23 consecutive years. I've visited my parents at least twice a week for most of that time too.
Since late August I haven't been in my parents home because my sister is bringing her kids in there. One is in preschool the other in school.
I don't think it's safe but my mother is delighted to see them and there's no talking to her on the subject. Thing is I'm trying to avoid the virus myself so I'm not going in now.
I visit and we stay outside her house and have a chat.
This will be the first Christmas in that amount of time that we won't have Christmas dinner there. I'm not risking contracting the virus by being stupid enough to spend time with people I know are taking risks.
We'll miss it but it's only one year, it's not the end of the world. Hopefully in 12 months time we are all vaccinated and things can go back to normal, if not next year then the year after.
Either way I'm willing to sacrifice these things to keep my family safe. In the long run it's the sensible decision imo.

gipi · 22-11-2020 04:14PM

I see the Irish Times is reporting on hospital acquired Covid infections

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/seven-patients-contracting-covid-19-in-irish-hospitals-a-day-1.4416102

Wolf359f · 22-11-2020 04:19PM

gipi wrote: »

I see the Irish Times is reporting on hospital acquired Covid infections

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/seven-patients-contracting-covid-19-in-irish-hospitals-a-day-1.4416102

We may finally get accurate figures around hospital numbers. Assuming someone bothers to ask. Highly unlikely though.

BringBackMick · 22-11-2020 04:20PM

Let's hope daily cases get below 200 by Wednesday, probably a little ambitious

Peter Flynt · 22-11-2020 04:21PM

If there is no problems, as NPHET clai, in keeping the schools open for 1 million then there should be no problems opening pubs for Christmas.

BringBackMick · 22-11-2020 04:21PM

If we have sub 200 cases and a pos rate below 3% with negative trajectory of the virus I believe we can get out of Level 5.

eagle eye · 22-11-2020 04:23PM

Peter Flynt wrote:

If there is no problems, as NPHET clai, in keeping the schools open for 1 million then there should be no problems opening pubs for Christmas.

How do you relate these two things?

Glenomra · 22-11-2020 04:26PM

eagle eye wrote: »

I've spent my Christmas Day in my parents house for 23 consecutive years. I've visited my parents at least twice a week for most of that time too.
Since late August I haven't been in my parents home because my sister is bringing her kids in there. One is in preschool the other in school.
I don't think it's safe but my mother is delighted to see them and there's no talking to her on the subject. Thing is I'm trying to avoid the virus myself so I'm not going in now.
I visit and we stay outside her house and have a chat.
This will be the first Christmas in that amount of time that we won't have Christmas dinner there. I'm not risking contracting the virus by being stupid enough to spend time with people I know are taking risks.
We'll miss it but it's only one year, it's not the end of the world. Hopefully in 12 months time we are all vaccinated and things can go back to normal, if not next year then the year after.
Either way I'm willing to sacrifice these things to keep my family safe. In the long run it's the sensible decision imo.

Ridiculous behaviour imo. Visit your parents this chwhile you can. There's no guarantee that you will have the opportunity next year.

majcos · 22-11-2020 04:28PM

AssetBacked2 wrote: »

You know covid doesn't just lurk in the air and you pick it up by just being around other people? It isn't like covid suddenly appears just because people meet each other, hug and shake hands.

Wow. I didn’t know it had mutated into a blood borne virus. That’s incredible news. You should let the whole world know!

hotmail.com · 22-11-2020 04:30PM

hmmm wrote: »

Most people I know are following the rules and are planning for a Christmas with reduced numbers in the house. Even the Turkey farmers are on the news saying the demand for large turkeys is well down...

So no-one should feel "stupid" for taking no risks with a vaccine only around the corner. Even if you are getting encouraged to do so by Covid deniers and the anti-everything brigade.

This has nothing to do with Covid deniers. A handful of people are Covid deniers. Not even worth bringing them into the conversation. It's just a tactic to scare people into saying nothing.

Reduced numbers, but still mixing, would still pose a threat. So either you're in for the rules or you're not.

Reduced numbers for some families, could still mean more than 10 people in the household. Irish extended families are very big.

majcos · 22-11-2020 04:36PM

Peter Flynt wrote: »

If there is no problems, as NPHET clai, in keeping the schools open for 1 million then there should be no problems opening pubs for Christmas.

These two environments are not in any way comparable. Completely different activities with completely different demographics.

iamwhoiam · 22-11-2020 04:42PM

majcos wrote: »

These two environments are not in any way comparable. Completely different activities with completely different demographics.

Plus one is essential and the other is not

hmmm · 22-11-2020 04:45PM

Peter Flynt wrote: »

If there is no problems, as NPHET clai, in keeping the schools open for 1 million then there should be no problems opening pubs for Christmas.

Schools are not immune from the virus and no-one has said they are. As a society we're accepting the risks of having schools open because it's important that children get an education. The trade-off is that other places where the virus can spread will have to remain shut.

Some parts of the US in particular have made different choices - closed schools and kept entertainment venues open. That's their choice.

MerlinSouthDub · 22-11-2020 04:51PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Plus one is essential and the other is not

And we know we can keep the r below 1 with schools open and pubs closed. We do not know if r would be below 1 with schools closed and pubs open, for example.

Neamhshuntasach · 22-11-2020 05:07PM

Glenomra wrote: »

Ridiculous behaviour imo. Visit your parents this chwhile you can. There's no guarantee that you will have the opportunity next year.

I'll visit my mam at Christmas. Same with my wife and her parents. We'll decide our own risks. I literally see nobody in my social life and work from home. And my wife is decked in PPE while in work. Our child doesn't go to creche either. So we weigh up our behavior and that of our families and we feel it's something we will accept safety wise.

But i don't think it's at all fair to call someone else's decision to stay away from their parents as ridiculous. My wife's friends mam had her 70th birthday recently and they had a get together in the mothers house one Saturday night to celebrate it. The brother of my wife's friend tested positive a few days later and both parents were really sick by this time too. Her father is in hospital and still not out of the woods. And her mother is in ICU. My wife is her doctor in the hospital. Don't know the odds of this happening to each and every individual person or how much risk is involved. But it is the other side of the coin to the "you may never know when you will see them again" line often put forward. I doubt many would want to see their parents at the expense of possibly putting them in hospital. Or potentially worse.

ACitizenErased · 22-11-2020 05:17PM

US announced today they aim to start vaccinations on December 12th.

Sconsey · 22-11-2020 05:19PM

AssetBacked2 wrote: »

You know covid doesn't just lurk in the air and you pick it up by just being around other people? It isn't like covid suddenly appears just because people meet each other, hug and shake hands.

I can't believe this level of ignorance still exists...how do you think the tens of thousands in Ireland have been getting infected? they aren't all going around licking hand-rails.

Seriously how do you think it is spreading?

BringBackMick · 22-11-2020 05:28PM

WHo is Pippa Hackett!

ANd how exactly are our COVID numbers concerning ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is aggravating to listen

road_high · 22-11-2020 05:38PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

WHo is Pippa Hackett!

ANd how exactly are our COVID numbers concerning ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is aggravating to listen

The kind of Woke preachy virtue signaller lockdowns will never effect
https://twitter.com/pippa_hackett?s=21

frank8211 · 22-11-2020 05:38PM

eagle eye wrote: »

I've spent my Christmas Day in my parents house for 23 consecutive years. I've visited my parents at least twice a week for most of that time too.
Since late August I haven't been in my parents home because my sister is bringing her kids in there. One is in preschool the other in school.
I don't think it's safe but my mother is delighted to see them and there's no talking to her on the subject. Thing is I'm trying to avoid the virus myself so I'm not going in now.
I visit and we stay outside her house and have a chat.
This will be the first Christmas in that amount of time that we won't have Christmas dinner there. I'm not risking contracting the virus by being stupid enough to spend time with people I know are taking risks.
We'll miss it but it's only one year, it's not the end of the world. Hopefully in 12 months time we are all vaccinated and things can go back to normal, if not next year then the year after.
Either way I'm willing to sacrifice these things to keep my family safe. In the long run it's the sensible decision imo.

I am with you on all that. I would be wary of people attending school or creche. Maybe you can have a nice easter even if things go right

road_high · 22-11-2020 05:48PM

frank8211 wrote: »

I am with you on all that. I would be wary of people attending school or creche. Maybe you can have a nice easter even if things go right

Why what’s going to happen by Easter?

thejuggler · 22-11-2020 05:52PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

US announced today they aim to start vaccinations on December 12th.

Any url to confirm this please? Not doubting you but don’t see it on the usual media websites.

WhiteMemento9 · 22-11-2020 05:55PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

US announced today they aim to start vaccinations on December 12th.

Any links?

ACitizenErased · 22-11-2020 05:57PM

thejuggler wrote: »

Any url to confirm this please? Not doubting you but don’t see it on the usual media websites.

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1330523138413703169?s=20

acer911 · 22-11-2020 06:04PM

Is there no swabs on a Sunday?

JP Liz V1 · 22-11-2020 06:07PM

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1330531586819956741

igCorcaigh · 22-11-2020 06:12PM

acer911 wrote: »

Is there no swabs on a Sunday?

Nope.

Eduard Khil · 22-11-2020 06:12PM

That's the anti establishment songs of hipster kids these days. All it takes is one moronic move like this to give another excuse of a lockdown in a few weeks again

vienne86 · 22-11-2020 06:13PM

acer911 wrote: »

Is there no swabs on a Sunday?

Nope. Just have to wait for cases to be announced.

Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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