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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • #7802
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Yet again, a simple Google search can answer your questions

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.racingpost.com/sport/us-presidential-election-2020-bookmakers-pay-out-on-biden-as-winner/458470/amp

    Ladbrokes and Bet365 paid out for me within a couple of days. I'm still waiting on betonline. Betfair haven't settled yet either, but they are an exchange so different rules.


  • #7803
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Book makers don't pay out on losses

    Paid out means all bets on a particular market are settled.


  • #7804
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,048 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    miss.paula wrote: »
    Follow the money as they say

    Yes! Exactly!

    So...

    Where are Trump's tax returns?

    Where are his bank account details?

    Who are the guarantors on his loans?

    Why did Trump plough millions into sinking businesses, such as his golf courses?

    Was Trump aware of the payments out to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal?

    Where did the money go from the inauguration?

    Where did the money go from Trump's 2020 election?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #7805
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭threeball


    This has aged so well



  • #7806
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Sparko wrote: »
    She keeps telling us to follow the money but won't tell us where it goes or what it proves..

    If you listen and follow the current arguments from the other side. Sidney Powell Trump lawyer, evidence is Affidavits (people saying they witnessed this fraud on the day) and they're also going after the Dominion voting systems record here.

    There was an admittance Dominion voting machine switched 6,000 votes to Biden from Trump, but i believe that fault was acknowledged here. It does raise some genuine questions though how there machines switched votes from Trump to Biden on election day?

    The Trump team would have to get their hands permanently on the computer logs and show hundreds of thousands of election booth votes switched from the Trump slot to Biden during the election.. If they looking to find proof, they leaving it late. The Dominion servers should be in the hands of FBI and other security cyber firms to see if there was potential hacking occurring on election day.

    The argument is Trump lost because of late tally counting of mail in votes. With voting machines as far I know are not doing any last minute calculation of mail in ballots? The dominion voting machines could not have added mail votes to Biden tally? Unless i am completely mistaken here?

    Trump's team is saying democratic supported election workers tampered with the mail in votes and hundreds of thousands of votes came in from people who are not alive? Witness statements are never enough to convince people alone,
    as they may be influenced to have that opinion. There'll will need to be videos, taped conversations here talking fraud, an obvious written record of fraud before the democrats change their minds. Trump team will have a long battle to convince the wider public they are telling the truth. Right now the evidence for wide spread fraud weak, but i open to evidence if came to light.


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  • #7807
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Seeing alot of stuff about the hardcore tumpists/qanon truthers calling for a boycott to the georgia runoffs.

    Will be hilarious if true


  • #7808
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    miss.paula wrote: »
    All i can see here is willful ignorance of the voter fraud that has occurred.
    Follow the money as they say, if Biden was the winner why have the Bookies not closed the book on a Trump win?

    Awww TheDonald.win gave you a day pass to spread the holy word to the heathens and libs on boards.ie, that's cute!


  • #7809
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    miss.paula wrote: »
    All i can see here is willful ignorance of the voter fraud that has occurred.
    Follow the money as they say, if Biden was the winner why have the Bookies not closed the book on a Trump win?

    34 lost court cases by Trump says it all really. Widespread voter fraud is a fantastical conspiracy theory designed to placate the ego of a man-baby, rile up the base and allow Trump and his associates to suck money out of them.


  • #7810
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Awww TheDonald.win gave you a day pass to spread the holy word to the heathens and libs on boards.ie, that's cute!

    Just had a look at the thedonald.win.

    Some seriously deluded posters on there.
    They really believe every conspiracy theory.


  • #7811
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Just had a look at the thedonald.win.

    Some seriously deluded posters on there.
    They really believe every conspiracy theory.

    Aye, they are totally off the wall www.the.donald.win guys and gals!


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  • #7812
    deceit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭deceit


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    34 lost court cases by Trump says it all really. Widespread voter fraud is a fantastical conspiracy theory designed to placate the ego of a man-baby, rile up the base and allow Trump and his associates to suck money out of them.
    I'm just popping into this thread as I didn't think it would still be going now. As far as I'm aware only 1 of them was run by Trumps team, the rest were individuals or companies suing.
    I'd expect trumps plan is to get to the supreme court with three of the states and if he manages that he would most likely win, especially if he has access to the German servers. The same people that warned about the servers before Trumps legal team released it are saying he has these servers and they have produced what they need. (Just rumors at this point so could be a load of ****e). Dominion have supposedly closed down their office in Canada and wont attend for requests to defend their product. With them not doing this 2 states wont certify but I'm not sure he can get a 3rd.
    I'd say his chances of winning though are at most 20%.


  • #7813
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    deceit wrote: »
    As far as I'm aware only 1 of them was run by Trumps team, the rest were individuals or companies suing.

    Nope.
    https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-5419-493b-9923-a918a2527931
    deceit wrote: »
    I'd say his chances of winning though are at most 20%.

    This is indeed mathematically correct, as his chances of winning are also at most 0.0001%.


  • #7814
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    deceit wrote: »
    I'm just popping into this thread as I didn't think it would still be going now. As far as I'm aware only 1 of them was run by Trumps team, the rest were individuals or companies suing.
    I'd expect trumps plan is to get to the supreme court with three of the states and if he manages that he would most likely win, especially if he has access to the German servers. The same people that warned about the servers before Trumps legal team released it are saying he has these servers and they have produced what they need. (Just rumors at this point so could be a load of ****e). Dominion have supposedly closed down their office in Canada and wont attend for requests to defend their product. With them not doing this 2 states wont certify but I'm not sure he can get a 3rd.
    I'd say his chances of winning though are at most 20%.

    You mean the German servers that the U.S. army said don't exist but they were supposed to have taken in a raid?


  • #7815
    Randle P. McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭Randle P. McMurphy


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Aye, they are totally off the wall www.the.donald.win guys and gals!


    Always good for a laugh that site. So many bat s**t crazy people over there. Seemingly their dear leader is a genius who is playing 4d chess with the dems and will prevail. Anyone who dosen't support him is is a commie pedo f****t traitor who needs to be hung. USUALLY IN CAPS LOCK WITH LOTS OF EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!! :D


  • #7816
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    It's really entertaining to read all these posts by people who seem to think that Trump is on the cusp of providing irrefutable proof of voter fraud. Personally, I'd have expected that to have been provided in one of the 34 court cases that have so far been thrown out. But maybe I'm just mad like that.


  • #7817
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    deceit wrote: »
    I'm just popping into this thread as I didn't think it would still be going now. As far as I'm aware only 1 of them was run by Trumps team, the rest were individuals or companies suing.
    I'd expect trumps plan is to get to the supreme court with three of the states and if he manages that he would most likely win, especially if he has access to the German servers. The same people that warned about the servers before Trumps legal team released it are saying he has these servers and they have produced what they need. (Just rumors at this point so could be a load of ****e). Dominion have supposedly closed down their office in Canada and wont attend for requests to defend their product. With them not doing this 2 states wont certify but I'm not sure he can get a 3rd.
    I'd say his chances of winning though are at most 20%.

    Seriously man, you've swallowed Rudy's conspiracies hook, line and sinker. Have a word with yourself.


  • #7818
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,518 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    PropJoe10 wrote:
    It's really entertaining to read all these posts by people who seem to think that Trump is on the cusp of providing irrefutable proof of voter fraud. Personally, I'd have expected that to have been provided in one of the 34 court cases that have so far been thrown out. But maybe I'm just mad like that.
    Yeah it's ridiculous but not at all surprise sing when you realise how many people voted for him.
    It's really horrible now, there are so many groups out there and not just the crazy Trump followers. You have the Trump haters as well who are not nice people either.
    The ordinary respectable persons voice is getting drowned out by all the hateful noise from those groups.
    We need four years with no media attention for Trump. His base will shrink quickly without exposure and maybe the lack of exposure will help the Trump haters heal although people who start hating seem to just move to another target like it's an addiction.


  • #7819
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Yeah it's ridiculous but not at all surprise sing when you realise how many people voted for him.
    It's really horrible now, there are so many groups out there and not just the crazy Trump followers. You have the Trump haters as well who are not nice people either.
    The ordinary respectable persons voice is getting drowned out by all the hateful noise from those groups.
    We need four years with no media attention for Trump. His base will shrink quickly without exposure and maybe the lack of exposure will help the Trump haters heal although people who start hating seem to just move to another target like it's an addiction.

    You're right, but it won't happen. When he leaves office he's going to be even worse with riling up his base support and entrenching the belief that they were somehow cheated out of a second term.

    He'll spend the next 4 years undermining Biden at every opportunity. That's the sad reality of the type of people you're dealing with there.


  • #7820
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    You're right, but it won't happen. When he leaves office he's going to be even worse with riling up his base support and entrenching the belief that they were somehow cheated out of a second term.

    I don't think so. I think he has no interest in getting down and dirty with those who support him unless it is likely to benefit him significantly in the short term. Take for example him driving through the crowd protesting on his behalf about alleged fraud to go golfing. A true leader would have attended that protest and spoken words both of thanks, of dedication and the need to fight on. He grinned out the window while wearing his stupid red hat.
    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    He'll spend the next 4 years undermining Biden at every opportunity. That's the sad reality of the type of people you're dealing with there.

    This I do agree with but I think his words will carry little weight. He has pretty much alienated himself from Fox, or they have from him, and I had previously said he could end up with a weekly show on the station talking about current affairs and that would have been a constant thorn in the side of the Biden administration given the audience Fox has. But, if he goes elsewhere, OAN or wherever, I think he is unlikely to have the same audience which will lessen the impact.

    He's doing everything in his power right now to make sure that the powers that be are fully motivated in shutting the door on him completely and trying to keep him quiet. Hopefully through prosecuting him appropriately for his alleged offences in my view.

    Even Chris Christie has called it a day on his Presidency.

    https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1330527751548379141

    At this point, it must be said that in terms of election fraud; 'The absence of evidence is evidence of absence'.


  • #7821
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    deceit wrote: »
    I'm just popping into this thread as I didn't think it would still be going now. As far as I'm aware only 1 of them was run by Trumps team, the rest were individuals or companies suing.
    I'd expect trumps plan is to get to the supreme court with three of the states and if he manages that he would most likely win, especially if he has access to the German servers. The same people that warned about the servers before Trumps legal team released it are saying he has these servers and they have produced what they need. (Just rumors at this point so could be a load of ****e). Dominion have supposedly closed down their office in Canada and wont attend for requests to defend their product. With them not doing this 2 states wont certify but I'm not sure he can get a 3rd.
    I'd say his chances of winning though are at most 20%.

    You do realise that the American army seizing anything in Germany would amount to an act of war with a fellow NATO member. :rolleyes:


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  • #7822
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    The OAN's and Newsmax of this world really don't seem to have any interest in letting things go. In this clip they complain about the major networks not airing the 2.5 hours of Rudy and Co's unintelligible ramblings the other night!

    https://twitter.com/LizRNC/status/1330186217355350020


  • #7823
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,029 ✭✭✭✭briany


    What's scarier about OANN and Newsmax? That they're staffed by loo-lahs who genuinely believe in this conspiracy for which no credible evidence has yet been provided, or that they're staffed by amoral people who have no problem completely ignoring reality in order to play the rubes and maximise their profit?

    At least with FOX news there was an eventual pullback. No danger of that with Trump's two new favourite networks.


  • #7824
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,518 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    briany wrote:
    or that they're staffed by amoral people who have no problem completely ignoring reality in order to play the rubes and maximise their profit?
    This, it's Twitter TV.


  • #7825
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »
    Always good for a laugh that site. So many bat s**t crazy people over there. Seemingly their dear leader is a genius who is playing 4d chess with the dems and will prevail. Anyone who dosen't support him is is a commie pedo f****t traitor who needs to be hung. USUALLY IN CAPS LOCK WITH LOTS OF EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!! :D

    I don't find it in anyway humorous at all. It's frightening the volume of support he still has.

    Would make you wonder the direction the human race is heading in with the seeds of division firmly sowed.


  • #7826
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    It would appear that in private, Trump is finally aware that he's lost. Now he's trying to work out how to make money afterwards.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/facing-400-million-debts-trump-plans-cash-in-on-presidency-2020-11?r=US&IR=T


  • #7827
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It would appear that in private, Trump is finally aware that he's lost. Now he's trying to work out how to make money afterwards.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/facing-400-million-debts-trump-plans-cash-in-on-presidency-2020-11?r=US&IR=T

    Charging $5 a head for a rally with say 30k people attending is a nice little earner, for most people, but after venue rent, security et al he is only going to make, lets say, $100k an event. While this is decent money for a lot of people, there's only so many rallies he can hold and $100k a day is not going to make a significant dent in his debts.


  • #7828
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It would appear that in private, Trump is finally aware that he's lost. Now he's trying to work out how to make money afterwards.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/facing-400-million-debts-trump-plans-cash-in-on-presidency-2020-11?r=US&IR=T

    He should be able to make a couple of dollars an hour to put towards commissary, but that'll be the extent of it


  • #7829
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Yep the one I'm thinking is that his speaking engagements will be a far more limited set than any previous president would have gotten. Not exactly lucrative.


  • #7830
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    What would be in a trump book that everyone hasn't already read via his tweets. Less capital letters maybe.


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  • #7831
    Aleece2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Aleece2020


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    What would be in a trump book that everyone hasn't already read via his tweets. Less capital letters maybe.

    Someone else will write it for him and he will attempt to take the credit, just like the Art of the Deal.


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