HOMESAVERS CORK ROAD WATERFORD

enniscorthy · 20-11-2020 12:34pm #1

Anyone know if its still open today after yesterdays terrible news

Save me a trip down if they already closed

Harry Palmr · 20-11-2020 12:56pm

It's global news!

https://twitter.com/Muhabarishaji/status/1329480864330354693

enniscorthy · 20-11-2020 1:03pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

There is one in Ballybricken which should be unaffected.

Not same selection and filthy

Wanderer78 · 20-11-2020 1:24pm

enniscorthy wrote:

Anyone know if its still open today after yesterdays terrible news

Terrible news?

friendlyfun · 20-11-2020 2:36pm

I see a lot of outrage over this online but seriously if they don't have permission then why get angry? There's rules for a reason and you're expected to obey them.

Wanderer78 · 20-11-2020 3:05pm

friendlyfun wrote: »

I see a lot of outrage over this online but seriously if they don't have permission then why get angry? There's rules for a reason and you're expected to obey them.

exactly, wtf is wrong with people, a large business just rocked into town, and without giving a flying fcuk about our laws, rocked on! wtf!

enniscorthy · 20-11-2020 3:52pm

enniscorthy wrote: »

Anyone know if its still open today after yesterdays terrible news

Save me a trip down if they already closed

Dreadful news

Wanderer78 · 20-11-2020 3:53pm

enniscorthy wrote: »

Dreadful news

dreadful news, in the middle of a pandemic?

enniscorthy · 20-11-2020 5:43pm

enniscorthy wrote: »

Not same selection and filthy

disgusting shop never again

Aquos76 · 20-11-2020 6:06pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

It's global news!

https://twitter.com/Muhabarishaji/status/1329480864330354693

I actually saw your tweet yesterday Harry and thought to myself what kind of twitter accounts is this fellow following

:D:D

Harry Palmr · 20-11-2020 6:16pm

I always search waterford and #waterford once a day just to see what's happening here (and in Waterford MI or course

) and that popped up, and yes I did a double take as well.

dark crystal · 21-11-2020 12:16am

friendlyfun wrote: »

I see a lot of outrage over this online but seriously if they don't have permission then why get angry? There's rules for a reason and you're expected to obey them.

People are angry because this decision is putting a fair amount of people out of a job in the middle of a pandemic, right before Christmas, that's why. Fairly obvious I would have thought.

Could the council not have given the stores an extension until after Christmas at least? Not saying rules shouldn't be followed, but surely a bit of common sense and compassion could have been practiced, especially in times like these.

killbillvol2 · 21-11-2020 12:22am

dark crystal wrote: »

People are angry because this decision is putting a fair amount of people out of a job in the middle of a pandemic, right before Christmas, that's why. Fairly obvious I would have thought.

Could the council not have given the stores an extension until after Christmas at least? Not saying rules shouldn't be followed, but surely a bit of common sense and compassion could have been practiced, especially in times like these.

They opened a shop the size of a f***ing aircraft hangar without planning permission!

I'm going to build a runway in Kilbarry for the laugh. You'll back me because I'll create jobs yeah?

dark crystal · 21-11-2020 1:01am

killbillvol2 wrote: »

They opened a shop the size of a f***ing aircraft hangar without planning permission!

I'm going to build a runway in Kilbarry for the laugh. You'll back me because I'll create jobs yeah?

Well, jobs are pretty important at the moment, so yeah, I was just sympathising with the staff who are finding themselves out of a job right before Christmas is all. It'll just add more people to the dole queue, but I guess it's more important to dot all the I's and cross all the T's.

I never said rules shouldn't be followed, but was merely responding to a poster who wondered where all the outrage was coming from. Tis hard for people at the moment and this decision has made it a little harder for quite a few more. Do you not think a fine and an extension until after Christmas may have been more compassionate than just closing up shop indefinitely and putting people out of work on such short notice?

Aquos76 · 21-11-2020 1:09am

Is the shop actually closed now?

dark crystal · 21-11-2020 1:20am

Aquos76 wrote: »

Is the shop actually closed now?

Not sure about the Cork Road store (news story says it was ordered to close by 6pm yesterday), but the Tramore store was ready to open in a few days and now won't. Saw this post on facebook from one of the staff there:

"I am one of the new hires in the tramore store we have been working non stop every day to get the place ready since last week, the work and hours all the staff have put in is phenomenal store looks fantastic, I say we only had two days left before we finished and could open. And now we're all unemployed right before Christmas some even left there previous jobs to start here all that hard work for nothing council should be ashamed of themselves! you've put over 150 people out of jobs, jobs that were so hard to find in the middle of a pandemic, you've sent all of us back to the dole office"

It's an awful shame seeing so many people losing their jobs, especially on top of Debenhams closing. It's a real blow to the city and county, jobs wise.

Aquos76 · 21-11-2020 1:25am

dark crystal wrote: »

Not sure about the Cork Road store (news story says it was ordered to close by 6pm yesterday), but the Tramore store was ready to open in a few days and now won't. Saw this post on facebook from one of the staff there:

"I am one of the new hires in the tramore store we have been working non stop every day to get the place ready since last week, the work and hours all the staff have put in is phenomenal store looks fantastic, I say we only had two days left before we finished and could open. And now we're all unemployed right before Christmas some even left there previous jobs to start here all that hard work for nothing council should be ashamed of themselves! you've put over 150 people out of jobs, jobs that were so hard to find in the middle of a pandemic, you've sent all of us back to the dole office"

It's an awful shame seeing so many people losing their jobs, especially on top of Debenhams closing. It's a real blow to the city and county, jobs wise.

Yeah it is terrible alright but I really don’t get why the council are getting so much flack here while Homesavers come across as the victims. Yes the staff are caught up in an awful situation now but this problem lies solely with Homesavers and not the council in my opinion.

dark crystal · 21-11-2020 1:35am

Aquos76 wrote: »

Yeah it is terrible alright but I really don’t get why the council are getting so much flack here while Homesavers come across as the victims. Yes the staff are caught up in an awful situation now but this problem lies solely with Homesavers and not the council in my opinion.

The only victims here are the staff, regardless of who's at fault. I just really feel for them

SweetCaliber · 21-11-2020 2:09am

The store in Tramore is huge, was a manufacturing factory beforehand.

JCX BXC · 21-11-2020 2:15am

Why exactly are people annoyed at the council here? If they chose to do anything else they'd have been lambasted too.

Homesavers are the ones who tried to flaunt the rules thereby they are the ones who have let down their staff.

friendlyfun · 21-11-2020 8:33am

dark crystal wrote: »

People are angry because this decision is putting a fair amount of people out of a job in the middle of a pandemic, right before Christmas, that's why. Fairly obvious I would have thought.

Could the council not have given the stores an extension until after Christmas at least? Not saying rules shouldn't be followed, but surely a bit of common sense and compassion could have been practiced, especially in times like these.

Not the council's fault. Company should have followed the protocols. They are the ones who are putting workers out of work, not the council.

MarkR · 21-11-2020 8:48am

Same thing happened in Limerick two years ago, and it's still open.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/business/arid-30958708.html%3ftype=amp

I can see where they are coming from, if home store and more can trade in the same place (in Limerick), and they also sell non big box items. Still, two wrongs don't make a right.

Wanderer78 · 21-11-2020 9:50am

As others have said, where does it stop! Allow one large company to breach serious rules and laws, just opens the flood gates, it's clearly the company's fault the staff are out of work, the council are dead right

Dunmoreroader · 21-11-2020 11:38am

This is the same think as TK Maxx being made close in Butlerstown and forced into town to Railway Sq. Maintain primacy of city centre for this type of retail.
Council was dead right.

DLS_75 · 21-11-2020 11:42am

Dunmoreroader wrote: »

This is the same think as TK Maxx being made close in Butlerstown and forced into town to Railway Sq. Maintain primacy of city centre for this type of retail.
Council was dead right.

Pity they’re not in any great hurry to enforce the planning laws on the travellers in Carrickpherish.

AUDI20 · 21-11-2020 11:54am

dark crystal wrote: »

Well, jobs are pretty important at the moment, so yeah, I was just sympathising with the staff who are finding themselves out of a job right before Christmas is all. It'll just add more people to the dole queue, but I guess it's more important to dot all the I's and cross all the T's.

I never said rules shouldn't be followed, but was merely responding to a poster who wondered where all the outrage was coming from. Tis hard for people at the moment and this decision has made it a little harder for quite a few more. Do you not think a fine and an extension until after Christmas may have been more compassionate than just closing up shop indefinitely and putting people out of work on such short notice?

Do you not think that Home Savers should have had their affairs in order before opening these stores, they put their workers jobs at risk not the Council. Planning permissions is there for a reason.

Wanderer78 · 21-11-2020 12:51pm

AUDI20 wrote: »

Do you not think that Home Savers should have had their affairs in order before opening these stores, they put their workers jobs at risk not the Council. Planning permissions is there for a reason.

oh i suspect they had their affairs well in order, id say they were trying to pull a fast one, particularly during a pandemic, these lads are far from stupid

smellyoldboot · 21-11-2020 8:30pm

Most likely they didn't plamás the council too much or oil the wheels with a few free dinners for the lads so off they jolly well Fcuk.

azimuth17 · 21-11-2020 9:17pm

smellyoldboot wrote: »

Most likely they didn't plamás the council too much or oil the wheels with a few free dinners for the lads so off they jolly well Fcuk.

I have had a good bit of experience with the city planning department and can honestly say that I have never seen any real evidence of back handers or political influence. Stupid decisions, bad decisions, emphatically yes. But corruption ? No. As for Waterford County area?

JWaterford · 24-11-2020 3:55pm

This letter was sent to the Waterford Council from homesavers. It sounds like other shops use the same type of planning permission as Homesavers. https://waterford-news.ie/2020/11/24/read-extraordinary-letter-from-homesavers-to-waterford-city-county-council-ceo/

91wx763 · 24-11-2020 4:26pm

JWaterford wrote: »

This letter was sent to the Waterford Council from homesavers. It sounds like other shops use the same type of planning permission as Homesavers. https://waterford-news.ie/2020/11/24/read-extraordinary-letter-from-homesavers-to-waterford-city-county-council-ceo/

Very odd way to do business....

Captain Red Beard · 24-11-2020 4:31pm

JWaterford wrote: »

This letter was sent to the Waterford Council from homesavers. It sounds like other shops use the same type of planning permission as Homesavers. https://waterford-news.ie/2020/11/24/read-extraordinary-letter-from-homesavers-to-waterford-city-county-council-ceo/

I started reading that letter but as soon as it got to the part where he mentioned where he hails from I started reading it in an accent. My brain betrayed me, I couldn't stop myself no sir. Thank you, come again.

Wanderer78 · 24-11-2020 6:02pm

fcuking hell, whos running this business, and more importantly, who let them out of the creche?

Harry Palmr · 24-11-2020 6:18pm

What the actual feck?! and how did this letter escape into the wild?

Aquos76 · 24-11-2020 6:20pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

What the actual feck?! and how did this latter escape into the wild?

Unbelievably it was emailed to a local journalist by Homesavers themselves.

Harry Palmr · 24-11-2020 6:22pm

Thus making themselves look even less professional and competent than was already the case

Wanderer78 · 24-11-2020 6:22pm

Aquos76 wrote: »

Unbelievably it was emailed to a local journalist by Homesavers themselves.

jesus, thats mad, i cant really see mr maniar getting planning permission now, and to be honest, i think his staff might be better off, jesus thats some weird twist

enniscorthy · 24-11-2020 6:25pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

jesus, thats mad, i cant really see mr maniar getting planning permission now, and to be honest, i think his staff might be better off, jesus thats some weird twist

he a great lad i know him personally from my creative writing group all i say waterford city council want be ashamed them self

Wanderer78 · 24-11-2020 6:28pm

enniscorthy wrote: »

he a great lad i know him personally from my creative writing group all i say waterford city council want be ashamed them self

im sorry, but my maniar broke the planning rules, he might be a sound lad, but....theres an element of naivety there, actually many many elements of naivety, wcc were spot on the shut this down, and i think it might be also for mr maniars benefit also

Jamie2k9 · 24-11-2020 6:34pm

JWaterford wrote: »

This letter was sent to the Waterford Council from homesavers. It sounds like other shops use the same type of planning permission as Homesavers. https://waterford-news.ie/2020/11/24/read-extraordinary-letter-from-homesavers-to-waterford-city-county-council-ceo/

What a pity party!

Coming all the way from India creating jobs in Ireland. Should have gone the whole hog and said WCC were racist against him...

The aggressive expansion in Waterford going from 1 to 4 stores in a short space of time is strange and not been repeated elsewhere. Secondly I wonder if all the other stores are in compliance with planning laws.

WCC had the same issue with Starbucks and I am sure warned them well in advance of the injunction.

127 jobs translates into 100+ under 20 hour a week jobs so the social media outrage is a joke and I suspect its what motivated them making the letter public.

Wanderer78 · 24-11-2020 6:36pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

What a pity party!

Coming all the way from India creating jobs in Ireland. Should have gone the whole hog and said WCC were racist against him...

The aggressive expansion in Waterford going from 1 to 4 stores in a short space of time is strange and not been repeated elsewhere. Secondly I wonder if all the other stores are in compliance with planning laws.

WCC had the same issue with Starbucks and I am sure warned them well in advance of the injection.

wheres he getting his legal advice?

smellyoldboot · 24-11-2020 6:40pm

JWaterford wrote: »

This letter was sent to the Waterford Council from homesavers. It sounds like other shops use the same type of planning permission as Homesavers. https://waterford-news.ie/2020/11/24/read-extraordinary-letter-from-homesavers-to-waterford-city-county-council-ceo/

Jesus I couldn't make it even half way through. Rambling, poorly constructed nonsense, appalling use of English and grammar. You could actually tell what country yer man was from before he said it which is an awful thing really but there you go. lol

killbillvol2 · 24-11-2020 6:50pm

enniscorthy wrote: »

he a great lad i know him personally from my creative writing group all i say waterford city council want be ashamed them self

He's good at the oul creative writing alright!

smellyoldboot · 24-11-2020 6:54pm

enniscorthy wrote: »

he a great lad i know him personally from my creative writing group all i say waterford city council want be ashamed them self

I think you both have excellent cases to sue whoever is running that class/group.

AUDI20 · 24-11-2020 8:10pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

wheres he getting his legal advice?

From the internet would be my guess!!

Quigs Snr · 24-11-2020 8:18pm

Wow. That letter is bizarre. It is written in a style similar to the one my uncle - who I didn't realise was the king of Nigeria - wrote me just this very morning about helping him get 33 million dollars out of the country.

What did he hope to achieve by sending that in the first place, let alone leak it to a local paper. His best chance was having your people, meet my people and if this brown paper bag happens to fall into your bag then we say no more about it. I don't know how they can have so many stores in Ireland and not understand how it works here.

Wanderer78 · 24-11-2020 8:23pm

Quigs Snr wrote: »

Wow. That letter is bizarre. It is written in a style similar to the one my uncle - who I didn't realise was the king of Nigeria - wrote me just this very morning about helping him get 33 million dollars out of the country.

What did he hope to achieve by sending that in the first place, let alone leak it to a local paper. His best chance was having your people, meet my people and if this brown paper bag happens to fall into your bag then we say no more about it. I don't know how they can have so many stores in Ireland and not understand how it works here.

we re clearly related, but i wouldnt be putting much hope into that cnut, im after sending him a fortune, and fcuk all hes sent back to me

tis nuts alright

Aquos76 · 24-11-2020 8:27pm

Why does Apu suddenly come into my mind

Micky Bluenips · 24-11-2020 8:29pm

enniscorthy wrote: »

he a great lad i know him personally from my creative writing group all i say waterford city council want be ashamed them self

He should be ashamed of himself trying to pull a stroke and then playing the sympathy card. He took on those people not the council. There has to be planning rules. If he had done it right before opening none of the jobs would be in jeopardy. He didn't think the council would have the balls to close him up. It's his own fault.

Harry Palmr · 24-11-2020 8:49pm

Aquos76 wrote: »

Why does Apu suddenly come into my mind

Well I'm glad it's a mod who made the implicit stereotypical link!!!

batman75 · 24-11-2020 8:56pm

Are homesavers like Mr Price?

HOMESAVERS CORK ROAD WATERFORD

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