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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    elperello wrote: »
    I take on board reservations based on previous failures to control spending in public bodies.

    How about current spending issues are are these to be ignored until such a time as we know what we want from Public Service Media?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,167 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Elmo wrote: »
    How about current spending issues are are these to be ignored until such a time as we know what we want from Public Service Media?

    No, you can list anything you regard as a spending issue as many have in this thread and others.

    The responsibility still lies with management at RTE to run the service and keep in budget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    elperello wrote: »
    Shaving a few hundred grand off high earners salaries or contracts is not going to give us the pot of gold.

    Why are you only targeting one person, and who is it? Is it Joe you don't like, or Ray?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    We know that, but it’s absolutely no reason to pay that much.

    It’s absolutely pure stupid, when there is no reason at all to do it.

    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    elperello wrote: »
    No, you can list anything you regard as a spending issue as many have in this thread and others.

    The responsibility still lies with management at RTE to run the service and keep in budget.

    And if they don't?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,167 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    McGaggs wrote: »
    Why are you only targeting one person, and who is it? Is it Joe you don't like, or Ray?

    I'm not "targeting" anyone.

    I'm not sure how you think I am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,167 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Elmo wrote: »
    And if they don't?

    Do you have anything in mind yourself?

    As long as any action taken doesn't interfere with the viewing/listening experience or render the organisation unable to fulfill it's remit I'm open to persuasion. .

    I'm wary of any of the "reduce services, sell things off, close it down" so called solutions put forward here and elsewhere.

    I want to see a sustainable Public Broadcasting service that will serve the public interest coming out of all this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    elperello wrote: »

    I'm wary of any of the "reduce services, sell things off, close it down" so called solutions put forward here and elsewhere.

    But that's what they have done, cut children's content, news on RTÉ 2 & 2fm, no TV news before 1pm, reduced independent drama & scripted comedy, massive cuts to any RTÉ2 content outside sport, not replacing that content for similar RTÉ player content (most of which don't come close to a youtube video),.....

    The list of their cuts is endless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    elperello wrote: »
    I'm not "targeting" anyone.

    I'm not sure how you think I am.

    I am being a smartarse and implying that a saving of a few hundred thousand could be made by reducing the salary of just one of their high earners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,167 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    McGaggs wrote: »
    I am being a smartarse and implying that a saving of a few hundred thousand could be made by reducing the salary of just one of their high earners.

    OK carry on, no harm in a bit of levity.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,167 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Elmo wrote: »
    But that's what they have done, cut children's content, news on RTÉ 2 & 2fm, no TV news before 1pm, reduced independent drama & scripted comedy, massive cuts to any RTÉ2 content outside sport, not replacing that content for similar RTÉ player content (most of which don't come close to a youtube video),.....

    The list of their cuts is endless.

    Well I'm not sure about endless and I'm not clear on your point about the player but if you are saying it needs to be sorted I agree.

    The cuts you listed have happened in an ad hoc manner without an agreed plan.

    I don't want that to happen and neither do you.

    What other members of the public think about these changes to RTE services is unclear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    RTÉ buy in €25,000,000 in imported content every year. Largely speaking RTÉ have not cut at the amount that it has imported.

    I think this is wastefully, it means that RTÉ buy in 10,000 to 12,000 hours of TV per year, around 27 hours per day.

    I suspect that much of those 27 hours will consist of first runs for RTÉ, with may 20 - 30% second runs. AFAIK every programming can be repeat every hour for 24 hours without incurring any cost, and that most content gets between 3 - 5 repeat showings as part of the contract.

    RTÉ basically has a treasure trove of content from the US, UK and Australia. However... before the large take up of on-demand much of this programming aired in the mid-night hours, now with the advent of increased us of on-demand RTÉ don't provide access to all new programming on their player (I assume due to the contract), then you have the fact that the Player is at time frustrating to use and much of the content isn't promoted, meaning you have a treasure trove of imported content which is available at mid-night hours and may or may not be available on an unworkable player.

    To my mind this is unused content, not only that pre-2000 RTÉ would never have bought Ellen or the Dr Phil show, this would have been abhorrent to RTÉ, these are unnecessary programmes to buy in, firstly because they could be bought by Virgin Media and secondly because they are available elsewhere and finally wouldn't RTÉ be better of making an Irish Morning show .... even a 9am, 10am, 11am and Noon news bulletin?

    The lets take Children's content. In 2016 after much publicity RTÉ denied that they were cutting children's content, but rather they were moving it to independents. If that were the case RTÉ would have had to increase independent children's content by €7m instead they kept it at €3.5million, but then their 2016 annual report would show that they had already cut funding to "young people's" by 25%, and this would be followed by a 50% reduction in 2017, with a slight increase in 2018. No news agency has ever pointed out how RTÉ lied about cutting children's content.

    During the last 10 years news has been cut back massively on TV, starting with RTÉ2 which introduced NewsFeed (that they couldn't even run during the summer months), cutting the late news on the News Channel having moved it there from RTÉ2, cutting morning news on RTÉ ONE and finally cutting news from late night 2fm but retaining nightly Sports bulletins.

    Ok you might say that they are taking a digital first approach, trust me I doubt Prime Time Explains or their daily mid-morning news update on their news site will ever return.

    This is consistent with RTÉ begging for more money and these cuts taking place in areas that vast majority won't notice.

    The Works/The View ... GONE
    Oireachtas Report ... GONE
    Sign of the Times/Hands ON ... GONE (With access signing limited to late night repeats of the same shows on RTÉ2).

    If RTÉ was a member of boards asking for all of this content to go, without a transparent way of show its replacement we would all laugh them out of the room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭garrettod


    We can all breath a deep sigh of relief....

    It seems that Dee and her cronies are going to make it, and won't be reporting the massive losses that the wanted us to believe that RTE were facing..

    https://m.independent.ie/business/media/rtes-finances-are-looking-up-but-the-timing-is-terrible-39746497.html

    No justification to defer doing something with RTE, to bring an end up the underlying issues though.

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    garrettod wrote: »
    We can all breath a deep sigh of relief....

    It seems that Dee and her cronies are going to make it, and won't be reporting the massive losses that the wanted us to believe that RTE were facing..

    https://m.independent.ie/business/media/rtes-finances-are-looking-up-but-the-timing-is-terrible-39746497.html

    No justification to defer doing something with RTE, to bring an end up the underlying issues though.

    TBH I think RTÉ may have made a profit in 2019, hence why the held off providing the report the the Department, they handed it on July 23rd, currently being sent to government.

    They got more of the license fee in 2019 and TV ad revenue was up slightly. Not sure how Radio did in 2019.

    But TBTH I don't care if they make a profit, breakeven or make a loss, I want to see better content across the board, so when they say the are damn if the do and they are damn if they don't, I think they really don't do anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭SPDUB


    Elmo wrote: »
    Oireachtas Report ... GONE

    It's on TG4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    SPDUB wrote: »
    It's on TG4

    At night TG4 air oireachtas proceedings not sure which day, does it have a presenter? TG4 are not RTÉ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭garrettod


    Elmo wrote: »

    ... TG4 are not RTÉ.

    Too right they aren't - TG4 is a far better run organisation.

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Anyone seen Blaithnid ni Chofaigh? I know she is suing RTE but flicked by Nationwide on Monday and there was some new fella presenting it and then realised I havent seen her in a few weeks


  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Anyone seen Blaithnid ni Chofaigh? I know she is suing RTE but flicked by Nationwide on Monday and there was some new fella presenting it and then realised I havent seen her in a few weeks

    Why oh why didn’t they keep Mary Kennedy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Why oh why didn’t they keep Mary Kennedy?

    She had to retire I think.
    All the same you would think they could find someone else.
    I suppose it depends on who their agent and what size the brown envelope is because there could be no other reason for some of them to be put in the positions they are in.


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  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bigroad wrote: »
    She had to retire I think.
    All the same you would think they could find someone else.
    I suppose it depends on who their agent and what size the brown envelope is because there could be no other reason for some of them to be put in the positions they are in.

    That’s right, but they were going to give Sean O’Rourke a new contract. Why not Mary?

    (I like Mary)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,167 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    A lot of people seem to dislike Blaithnid ni Chofaigh but I saw her presenting Nationwide from the Blaskets last week and I thought she did a good job. It's well worth watching back. I know it's easy to make the Blaskets look good but the camera work is great.

    https://presspack.rte.ie/2020/11/09/nationwide-52/?platform=16&channel=48


    Meanwhile good news about Mary. She is back on TG4.

    https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2020/0923/1167077-mary-kennedy-returns-to-screens-with-new-tg4-show/


  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    elperello wrote: »

    Good to know, thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,167 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Oh man, what a blunder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,431 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151




    Not following a single rule that they preach to us plebs 24/7, joke of an organisation. Outside of healthcare only an arsehole can get Covid, here we have a full display of arseholes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    They can't run from that story........they're In Too Deep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,431 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Seems very odd having www.superannrte.ie available to the general public, should be an intranet site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Seems very odd having www.superannrte.ie available to the general public, should be an intranet site.
    probably for retired folks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    All leave cancelled at the spin dept. for a week at least.


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