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No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

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  • #902
    Dinzee Conlee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Say my name wrote: »
    But they culled mink (a total wipeout) that hadn't got the virus. Hence the agriculture minister resigned as it was deemed illegal and the calls for the prime minister to resign.

    Yes - but you posted “The mink in Denmark hadn't got the virus”

    That’s not right - some mink had as they were tested and found to have it.

    That doesn’t make the killing of all mink right, but it also doesn’t mean the killing of some wasn’t warranted either...


  • #903
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,079 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Do people feel there was a jump to try and end the business altogether??

    Or just a mistake, a costly mistake I’d expect.


  • #904
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Say my name wrote: »
    Nphet is recommending that the remaining mink farms in this country be culled.

    I'm waiting for someone to suggest that dogs and cats get coronavirus.

    Not only that but that mink farming is the same as other farming here with all animals being 'caged up" and "drugged up" :rolleyes:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058133492


  • #905
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,501 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    _Brian wrote: »
    That’s not unusual surely.
    If a few chickens in a flock have avian flu the whole flock is culled and indeed there have been instances where neighboring flicks have been culled as a precaution.

    Yea but you wouldn't be culling in cork if a flock had it in Louth.

    That's what made the minister resign.
    He overstepped his remit and broke the law.


  • #906
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,079 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Say my name wrote: »
    Yea but you wouldn't be culling in cork if a flock had it in Louth.

    That's what made the minister resign.
    He overstepped his remit and broke the law.

    Be interesting to see how it plays out for them.

    Presume we have no such restrictions here.


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  • #907
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,501 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    _Brian wrote: »
    Be interesting to see how it plays out for them.

    Presume we have no such restrictions here.

    Well we're kind of worse.

    We've a head of a health committee calling for farmed mink to be culled here based on what happened in Denmark.

    And he made that announcement today after the Danish minister resigned yesterday.


  • #908
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,079 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Say my name wrote: »
    Well we're kind of worse.

    We've a head of a health committee calling for farmed mink to be culled here based on what happened in Denmark.

    And he made that announcement today after the Danish minister resigned yesterday.

    He makes recommendations on what he feels is the best action to minimise covid issues

    There seems no doubt that the human-mink-human transmission happened and the result was seriously dangerous.

    The government have made very clear he’s an adviser only. If it happens it’s on the government not him.


  • #909
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,501 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    _Brian wrote: »
    He makes recommendations on what he feels is the best action to minimise covid issues

    There seems no doubt that the human-mink-human transmission happened and the result was seriously dangerous.

    The government have made very clear he’s an adviser only. If it happens it’s on the government not him.

    He makes press release announcements and then expects the government to follow through.

    Is there any other EU country where such an adviser conducts their business through the media?


  • #910
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,079 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Say my name wrote: »
    He makes press release announcements and then expects the government to follow through.

    Is there any other EU country where such an adviser conducts their business through the media?

    I have no idea.
    He’s been doing a good job up to this.

    Last data I saw we were well placed across Europe regards infection rates, but I haven’t seen the data recently.

    He is tasked with giving the best advice to minimise the impact of Covid19, that’s what he does is it not??

    The government have their own mechanism to take that advice and mash in the socio economic impacts and implement their version of his advice.


  • #911
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,501 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    _Brian wrote: »
    I have no idea.
    He’s been doing a good job up to this.

    Last data I saw we were well placed across Europe regards infection rates, but I haven’t seen the data recently.

    He is tasked with giving the best advice to minimise the impact of Covid19, that’s what he does is it not??

    The government have their own mechanism to take that advice and mash in the socio economic impacts and implement their version of his advice.

    It's not normal.

    It's basically like someone with a loud speaker on one side of a hall shouting over to someone on the other side of the hall and us the public are in the middle looking at both going wtf.


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  • #912
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,079 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Say my name wrote: »
    It's not normal.

    It's basically like someone with a loud speaker on one side of a hall shouting over to someone on the other side of the hall and us the public are in the middle looking at both going wtf.

    In some ways the Irish public are never happy.

    We give out and give out about teachers and publicans going into political life and not knowing what to do with hard decisions.

    And now we have a scientific professional steering the direction through a world pandemic, bringing us to the front of Europe as regards reducing infections. And and yet people complain.

    The nephet public briefings are happening because the government want them to happen, it serves a purpose, politically they can pander to those not happy and say “look, he said to do it”


  • #913
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,501 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    _Brian wrote: »

    The nephet public briefings are happening because the government want them to happen, it serves a purpose, politically they can lander to those not happy and say “look, he said to do it”

    Good cop. Bad cop.

    Yea you have it 100%.

    Pity there's no bad cop overseeing the children's hospital. The p1sstake is never ending.


  • #914
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,079 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Say my name wrote: »
    Good cop. Bad cop.

    Yea you have it 100%.

    Pity there's no bad cop overseeing the children's hospital. The p1sstake is never ending.

    Indeed.
    One wonders about the decision process there


  • #915
    Jb1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Say my name wrote: »
    Good cop. Bad cop.

    Yea you have it 100%.

    Pity there's no bad cop overseeing the children's hospital. The p1sstake is never ending.

    There is a bad cop overseeing it, its just that they are pisstakeing too,
    Very small pecentage of people on this planet that would genuinely do the the thing right.


  • #916
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,501 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Had to look up the cost so far.

    It was 1.4 bn but now lately they're now looking for another 200 million.


    Health is some money maker in this country.


  • #917
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Say my name wrote: »
    Good cop. Bad cop.

    Yea you have it 100%.

    Pity there's no bad cop overseeing the children's hospital. The p1sstake is never ending.

    BAM is building it, nuff said.


  • #918
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,501 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Jb1989 wrote: »
    There is a bad cop overseeing it, its just that they are pisstakeing too,
    Very small pecentage of people on this planet that would genuinely do the the thing right.

    There'll be a tribunal set up to follow the costs.

    Scrap that ..there won't be a word about it.

    It would be interesting to follow the trickle down.


  • #919
    Jb1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Say my name wrote: »
    There'll be a tribunal set up to follow the costs.

    Scrap that ..there won't be a word about it.

    It would be interesting to follow the trickle down.

    Even the tribunal will leave questions, it's everyone for themselves.


  • #920
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,880 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    A rare evening of nowhere to go. Ended up cooking cookies with youngest lad. Left him to it for a while. He had an American recipie that had cups rather than grams or ounces. So he guessed it. Had a good laugh at it. They turned out ok after clawing back about half a bag of flour out of the bowl.


  • #921
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,079 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Since we bought the horsebox in the summer there’s been a few sidelights and bits not working so I spent a few hours today soldering connections and replacing fittings.
    Added lights inside to make loading easier as the evenings are gone to hell.


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  • #922
    zetecescort
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    teachers really don't help themselves do they. suggesting to close schools because of the cold must be some kind of pisstake


  • #923
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,079 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    zetecescort wrote: »
    teachers really don't help themselves do they. suggesting to close schools because of the cold must be some kind of pisstake

    Was that not some of the gormless opposition that suggested that. Didn’t the unions come out today and say they never asked for it.


  • #924
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,880 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Apparently American schools are closed for Christmas from today. Due to a large amount of cases over there


  • #925
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,079 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Apparently American schools are closed for Christmas from today. Due to a large amount of cases over there

    An example of what happens when an idiot politician ignores science and scientific advice. Their hospital admissions has increased 50% in two weeks. It’s criminal what has been let happen.


  • #926
    zetecescort
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    _Brian wrote: »
    Was that not some of the gormless opposition that suggested that. Didn’t the unions come out today and say they never asked for it.

    unions quoted here https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40085618.html


  • #927
    ruwithme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Keep that one to yourself and me self whelan. Teachers unions are already looking to close the previous week at Christmas,and of course our media are giving them plenty of air time for their cause.


  • #928
    foxy farmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    Water John wrote: »
    BAM is building it, nuff said.

    https://www-irishexaminer-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30904336.html?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&type=amp&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQCrABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16058218185874&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishexaminer.com%2Fnews%2Farid-30904336.html


  • #929
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,880 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    ruwithme wrote: »
    Keep that one to yourself and me self whelan. Teachers unions are already looking to close the previous week at Christmas,and of course our media are giving them plenty of air time for their cause.

    Just think of all the frontline staff working flat out since March without complaint. My sister works in 3rd level education, this has been her busiest year ever.


  • #930
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,079 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    zetecescort wrote: »
    unions quoted here https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40085618.html

    That’s a separate issue in fairness. The notion of closing early for Christmas was because teachers and students were exhausted from stress etc and to allow two extra days isolation.

    The truth is you can’t sit about in a freezing classroom and learn or teach. 6 hrs sitting in the cold not up and about working would be very tough learning environment. My eldest is in her leaving cert and for example this afternoon their classroom was freezing in the afternoon. You can wear extra layers but sitting about all day in the cold isn’t nice at all.

    These kids missed massive time off their LC cycle already and now are in less than ideal learning conditions. It’s a tough time for them. They don’t need for their time off but much of the current time is sub par learning climate.


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  • #931
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,632 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    _Brian wrote: »
    That’s a separate issue in fairness. The notion of closing early for Christmas was because teachers and students were exhausted from stress etc and to allow two extra days isolation.

    The truth is you can’t sit about in a freezing classroom and learn or teach. 6 hrs sitting in the cold not up and about working would be very tough learning environment. My eldest is in her leaving cert and for example this afternoon their classroom was freezing in the afternoon. You can wear extra layers but sitting about all day in the cold isn’t nice at all.

    These kids missed massive time off their LC cycle already and now are in less than ideal learning conditions. It’s a tough time for them. They don’t need for their time off but much of the current time is sub par learning climate.

    Why were the classes freezing


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