Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

emaherx · 11-11-2020 07:38AM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Lights and gauges arent working on.my skidsteer, is it hard to install new lights?

Do you mean install some work lights?
Fairly straightforward, just get some LED lamps, cable, a switch and an inline fuse and connect directly to battery. Its not the most elegant way to do it but with appropriate sized fuse it will be safe.

You only need a single core cable from battery + to the lamps + as you can connect the lamps - to chassis. Install fuse as close to battery as possible and switch where ever is convenient.

kevthegaff · 11-11-2020 09:05AM

emaherx wrote: »

Do you mean install some work lights?
Fairly straightforward, just get some LED lamps, cable, a switch and an inline fuse and connect directly to battery. Its not the most elegant way to do it but with appropriate sized fuse it will be safe.

You only need a single core cable from battery + to the lamps + as you can connect the lamps - to chassis. Install fuse as close to battery as possible and switch where ever is convenient.

Thanks emaherx

Odelay · 11-11-2020 10:21AM

After market lights and radios are a regular cause of machinery fires. Just be sure it is done right.

have2flushtwice · 11-11-2020 10:47AM

What sort of skid steer have you kevthegaff?
Ive a bobcat 753. Original lights are gone, I'll put in leds when I get the other issues sorted.

kevthegaff · 11-11-2020 12:04PM

have2flushtwice wrote: »

What sort of skid steer have you kevthegaff?
Ive a bobcat 753. Original lights are gone, I'll put in leds when I get the other issues sorted.

Have a mustang 2050, incredible machine but might upgrade as shes 2001

endainoz · 17-11-2020 12:21PM

I'm looking to source some brackets for a Zetor loader. Brackets for a ZL or ZQ. Model is a 2002 9641 with a metal bonnet. I'm told they can be hard to source, hopefully someone here could point me in the right direction.

White Clover · 17-11-2020 12:59PM

endainoz wrote: »

I'm looking to source some brackets for a Zetor loader. Brackets for a ZL or ZQ. Model is a 2002 9641 with a metal bonnet. I'm told they can be hard to source, hopefully someone here could point me in the right direction.

What make loader? There's a guy in monasterevin that deals in lots of loaders, Fenton is his name i think. I have some vague memory that Mad4simmental that posts here dealt with/knows him.

endainoz · 17-11-2020 01:14PM

White Clover wrote: »

What make loader? There's a guy in monasterevin that deals in lots of loaders, Fenton is his name i think. I have some vague memory that Mad4simmental that posts here dealt with/knows him.

It's a Zetor loader, TL 120, haven't bought it yet but I know it needs brackets

Gillespy · 17-11-2020 06:25PM

Gribben Tractors in Armagh. I was told they have a great selection of loaders and brackets when I had a notion of fitting a loader. You can see what they have but always worth ringing as I don't know how updated they keep their website.

http://www.gribbentractors.com/loaders-implements/index.html

Gillespy · 19-11-2020 07:00PM

Even as an Irishman, it is a bit insane how many there are though. New ones keep popping up too.

Waffletraktor · 19-11-2020 07:06PM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Makes me smile reading through the english based forums where some users seem to be totally bemused by the amount of agri equipment being produced in Ireland (North & South).

Was watching Tom Pemberton getting his new tanker and look where the lights are located on it - right underneath where the pipe hangs. Wouldn't be off the trailer here before it would be sent back. Guy even proudly pointed out the 'hamburgers' :pac:
Also noticed the end of the pipe was split - wonder was that intentional - can't think why you'd want it split.
It had a quick fill pump, but limited to 20km/h I assume those tyres are only rated for that speed fully loaded up?

Other than Mchale who produces genuinelly market leading top quality vs the copycat 'too a price' market.

19-11-2020 07:18PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Other than Mchale who produces genuinelly market leading top quality vs the copycat 'too a price' market.

Hi-spec engineering

Gillespy · 19-11-2020 07:23PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Other than Mchale who produces genuinelly market leading top quality vs the copycat 'too a price' market.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Still are plenty of those same manufactures putting out well speced stuff when it's asked for. Major for example will make you a tank that will stand up to anything made anywhere. Same with some diet feeders made here. Who cares if the bulk is basic stuff, that's all most farmers need.

Waffletraktor · 19-11-2020 08:25PM

Gillespy wrote: »

You say that like it's a bad thing. Still are plenty of those same manufactures putting out well speced stuff when it's asked for. Major for example will make you a tank that will stand up to anything made anywhere. Same with some diet feeders made here. Who cares if the bulk is basic stuff, that's all most farmers need.

Sure.

raypallas · 19-11-2020 08:47PM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Makes me smile reading through the english based forums where some users seem to be totally bemused by the amount of agri equipment being produced in Ireland (North & South).

Was watching Tom Pemberton getting his new tanker and look where the lights are located on it - right underneath where the pipe hangs. Wouldn't be off the trailer here before it would be sent back. Guy even proudly pointed out the 'hamburgers' :pac:
Also noticed the end of the pipe was split - wonder was that intentional - can't think why you'd want it split.
It had a quick fill pump, but limited to 20km/h I assume those tyres are only rated for that speed fully loaded up?

I watched that video,
Thought some parts of the tank design were very poor, the sluice valves the lights as well just to name one or two.

Gillespy · 19-11-2020 09:14PM

It's not so bad, some nice touches to it too. PrimeX tank built in Preston. No better or worse than what about dozen Irish manufactures would put out.

FintanMcluskey · 19-11-2020 09:41PM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Makes me smile reading through the english based forums where some users seem to be totally bemused by the amount of agri equipment being produced in Ireland (North & South).

Was watching Tom Pemberton getting his new tanker and look where the lights are located on it - right underneath where the pipe hangs. Wouldn't be off the trailer here before it would be sent back. Guy even proudly pointed out the 'hamburgers' :pac:
Also noticed the end of the pipe was split - wonder was that intentional - can't think why you'd want it split.
It had a quick fill pump, but limited to 20km/h I assume those tyres are only rated for that speed fully loaded up?

Does it prevent it sticking to the bottom of the shed tank when filling a load?

Gillespy · 19-11-2020 09:50PM

It's not so much the pipe is split but a v-shape notch cut into it. It will stop it sticking to the floor but is a risk of it collapsing in and closing in time. Prefer a bit of angle bolted to the pipe.

Waffletraktor · 19-11-2020 11:31PM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Talking trailers and tankers here not nuclear reactors. Not all of us are able to dine at the top table when it comes to machinery.
Would you prefer it if one of the big conglomerates had patents/monopoly on all machinery - rather than a number of small businesses dotted about the place?
I'm not sure what the "copycat to a price" comment means. Virtually every market has a number of producers producing similar items - be it slurry tankers, hair brushes or jet engines. Everyone can find something that suits their needs, demands and budget.

You've kind of answered your own question, farms doing more work require equipment with a better build quality and so can afford to spend more. Comparing Stewart grain trailer to a smyth or braughan it's the finer details and finishing touches that make life easier down the line for the end user that makes them worth the premium.
AS in grease lines running to an easy access bank of nipples so it actually gets done rather than being a decorative ornament for occasional use, placing pto nipples on the outside of the yoke. Copycat firms working to a price won't go to the effort where as someone building something to be used more will as the end user wants life to be easier.
Have you looked at who owns whom latelly nevermind manufacturers piggy backing their product to a more established manufacturer to achieve a larger dealer coverage.

endainoz · 20-11-2020 04:19PM

White Clover wrote: »

What make loader? There's a guy in monasterevin that deals in lots of loaders, Fenton is his name i think. I have some vague memory that Mad4simmental that posts here dealt with/knows him.

I ended up taking the long trip from north Clare to Manasterevin yesterday, was a long days driving but got what I wanted. Brackets + Joystick and other bits to suit my 9641. Hopefully will get new loader fitted next week all going well.

Limestone Cowboy · 20-11-2020 04:49PM

endainoz wrote: »

I ended up taking the long trip from north Clare to Manasterevin yesterday, was a long days driving but got what I wanted. Brackets + Joystick and other bits to suit my 9641. Hopefully will get new loader fitted next week all going well.

You'll be lucky if that man has it done for the new year

endainoz · 20-11-2020 06:11PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

You'll be lucky if that man has it done for the new year

I'll put a bet on with you that I'll have it back Monday week!

Reggie. · 20-11-2020 07:26PM

endainoz wrote: »

I'll put a bet on with you that I'll have it back Monday week!

Ohhh I'm off to get the popcorn

Gillespy · 20-11-2020 07:38PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

You've kind of answered your own question, farms doing more work require equipment with a better build quality and so can afford to spend more. Comparing Stewart grain trailer to a smyth or braughan it's the finer details and finishing touches that make life easier down the line for the end user that makes them worth the premium.
AS in grease lines running to an easy access bank of nipples so it actually gets done rather than being a decorative ornament for occasional use, placing pto nipples on the outside of the yoke. Copycat firms working to a price won't go to the effort where as someone building something to be used more will as the end user wants life to be easier.
Have you looked at who owns whom latelly nevermind manufacturers piggy backing their product to a more established manufacturer to achieve a larger dealer coverage.

In the real world, only a snob would turn his nose up at a Broughan trailer. Steward didn't invent the trailer you know so going around calling Irish manufacturers ''copycats'' makes no sense. Elitist nonsense.

Limestone Cowboy · 20-11-2020 07:50PM

endainoz wrote: »

I'll put a bet on with you that I'll have it back Monday week!

Finest, give the money to the red lad and I'll collect it off him

Waffletraktor · 25-11-2020 10:15PM

Gillespy wrote: »

In the real world, only a snob would turn his nose up at a Broughan trailer. Steward didn't invent the trailer you know so going around calling Irish manufacturers ''copycats'' makes no sense. Elitist nonsense.

Most irish equipment is built for small stock farms, to a price that leaves them competitive to the local market for which some areas of components and finishing touches are scrimped on. Within such a market any new ideas are quickly copied so as to not let competitors get a leg up, am i missing something?
If i wanted to be a machinery snob i'd post stuff like below more often, I can't help it if the peasantry disagree :pac:....

NcdJd · 25-11-2020 10:22PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Most irish equipment is built for small stock farms, to a price that leaves them competitive to the local market for which some areas of components and finishing touches are scrimped on. Within such a market any new ideas are quickly copied so as to not let competitors get a leg up, am i missing something?
If i wanted to be a machinery snob i'd post stuff like below more often, I can't help it if the peasantry disagree :pac:....

Not as new as my two wheel barrow tyres I got today...

Do you take your shoes off before ya go into that Fendt / Massey combine ?

Nice machines.

lakill Farm · 26-11-2020 11:40AM

emaherx wrote: »

Do you mean install some work lights?
Fairly straightforward, just get some LED lamps, cable, a switch and an inline fuse and connect directly to battery. Its not the most elegant way to do it but with appropriate sized fuse it will be safe.

You only need a single core cable from battery + to the lamps + as you can connect the lamps - to chassis. Install fuse as close to battery as possible and switch where ever is convenient.

saw a report that every single tractor in uk that burnt out in 2019 had after market additional wiring from the battery and now insurance companies are telling people not to do it

emaherx · 26-11-2020 12:21PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

saw a report that every single tractor in uk that burnt out in 2019 had after market additional wiring from the battery and now insurance companies are telling people not to do it

Had they a fuse installed as close as possible to the battery though?

Connecting a few LED lights with a switch and fuse is not a fire risk, problem is lads taking short cuts. And I doubt very much every tractor fire for a year was caused by aftermarket lights. I've seen enough old tractors original wiring looms melt from nothing more than age with no after market lights.

I'd argue that yard bound loader is a much bigger safety risk being used in the dark with no lights.

Reggie. · 26-11-2020 01:33PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

saw a report that every single tractor in uk that burnt out in 2019 had after market additional wiring from the battery and now insurance companies are telling people not to do it

Tractors should come with a socket supplied from the battery as standard imo

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