No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

18-11-2020 09:44PM

whelan2 wrote: »

I think the super valu ad is good too

My wife was crying the first time she saw it.

Mac Taylor · 18-11-2020 09:47PM

keepalive213 wrote: »

My run of bad luck continues, I was greeted this morning in the shed by an 18 month old breeding heifer with a broken front leg.
Just f****** fantastic

Sorry to hear that......nothing worse than when a few things go wrong. Keep the chin up.

Water John · 18-11-2020 09:52PM

Grueller wrote: »

It's amazing what a bit of contact can do. Last Thursday evening I phoned a lad that I used to hurl with. This lad is 13 years older than I am so early fifties. He was on the verge of retiring for the few years I hurled with him but we hurled together midfield and struck up a good friendship.
His parents both passed in the last two years and he never married so is living alone since and farming for a living so I just said I'd give him a shout as I hadn't seen him since the second lockdown started. We had a good chat for about an hour. This evening the phone rang and we chatted away for 20 minutes or so before he went silent for a second and thanked me for last weeks call. He told me hadn't heard from a soul in a fortnight and didn't realise how low he had been until he heard from someone. I was humbled by his honesty. I know that we are not meant to have visitors but I invited him round for the supper and a few drinks this Saturday evening. I think that the isolation is more danger to him than Covid is to either of us to be fair.

Well done Grueller. This is allowed under the current lockdown, a buddy system. Another example are two single parents giving support to each other.

Mooooo · 18-11-2020 10:22PM

farawaygrass wrote: »

You know how teagasc give predicted grass growth rates every week? One thing I struggle to understand is that if I had two identical fields, one spread with fertiliser and the other, there will be a big difference in growth grates obviously. Do teagasc base their figures on fertilised fields or fields without fertiliser?

Based on figures from people measuring and putting figures into pasturebase

Birdnuts · 18-11-2020 11:39PM

Its sad to hear about the situation at Dublin Zoo - surely major supermarkets, knackeries etc. could help out with feed bills, especcially given the amount of perfectly good food that gets chucked out by many facilities around the country??

gozunda · 18-11-2020 11:48PM

Birdnuts wrote: »

Its sad to hear about the situation at Dublin Zoo - surely major supermarkets, knackeries etc. could help out with feed bills, especcially given the amount of perfectly good food that gets chucked out by many facilities around the country??

Good news is that they raised over a million euro after launching an appeal today.

Dublin Zoo has raised €1 million in donations since it launched a fundraising campaign earlier today

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1118/1178867-dublin-zoo/

Danzy · 18-11-2020 11:52PM

What's the oldest you can have a bull weanling castrated, 12 months so it's a vet job I suppose, is it worth it, what would it cost.

Cheers

HildaOgdenx · 19-11-2020 12:11AM

Grueller wrote: »

It's amazing what a bit of contact can do. Last Thursday evening I phoned a lad that I used to hurl with. This lad is 13 years older than I am so early fifties. He was on the verge of retiring for the few years I hurled with him but we hurled together midfield and struck up a good friendship.
His parents both passed in the last two years and he never married so is living alone since and farming for a living so I just said I'd give him a shout as I hadn't seen him since the second lockdown started. We had a good chat for about an hour. This evening the phone rang and we chatted away for 20 minutes or so before he went silent for a second and thanked me for last weeks call. He told me hadn't heard from a soul in a fortnight and didn't realise how low he had been until he heard from someone. I was humbled by his honesty. I know that we are not meant to have visitors but I invited him round for the supper and a few drinks this Saturday evening. I think that the isolation is more danger to him than Covid is to either of us to be fair.

That's lovely to hear, and fair dues to both of you.
If he lives alone, he can be in a bubble with you, under the current restrictions, so enjoy the evening.
A hand of friendship was never more important, in my opinion.

Water John · 19-11-2020 12:44AM

Danzy wrote: »

What's the oldest you can have a bull weanling castrated, 12 months so it's a vet job I suppose, is it worth it, what would it cost.

Cheers

Did a group, cost me about €33 each animal, surgical option, incl call out charge.
Not a good time of the year now to be doing it. Also be sure the animal has two shots for blackleg.

Say my name · 19-11-2020 08:54AM

I see the Danish Agriculture minister has resigned after the cull of farmed mink was ruled to be an illegal order.
The cull still continues even though it's deemed illegal.

I don't understand it either.

148multi · 19-11-2020 11:00AM

Say my name wrote: »

I see the Danish Agriculture minister has resigned after the cull of farmed mink was ruled to be an illegal order.
The cull still continues even though it's deemed illegal.

I don't understand it either.

Cull them, then pay compo for the illegal act. Everyone taken care of.

148multi · 19-11-2020 11:19AM

Danzy wrote: »

What's the oldest you can have a bull weanling castrated, 12 months so it's a vet job I suppose, is it worth it, what would it cost.

Cheers

Neighbour used to leave males entire for 12 - 16 months, he'd get vet to cut them. He reckoned he had better growth rates and that it was enough to cover the cost of the op.

Freejin · 19-11-2020 11:46AM

Anybody have experience with lay flat pipe to pump slurry from one tank to another. Distance about 50m. Is it hard work trying to empty the pipe after? Does it need to be cleaned with water to stop it going hard inside? Will only be used maybe three times per year

orm0nd · 19-11-2020 12:37PM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Does most people on here clip the tails of their cattle when doing their backs?
I avoid it as the risk of nicking the tail just seems too great for any benefit.
I think blackleg is the issue with nicking the tail too.

always clip tails actually done a batch of the incalf heifers this morning.

I think spinal paralysis would be a bigger issue than blackleg (open to correction)

Danzy · 19-11-2020 12:40PM

148multi wrote: »

Neighbour used to leave males entire for 12 - 16 months, he'd get vet to cut them. He reckoned he had better growth rates and that it was enough to cover the cost of the op.

I'm thinking along that line. Thinking of doing it in a month and feed him ration as a bull till then, he is already on it

patsy_mccabe · 19-11-2020 01:04PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Just got a text from the Limousin Society, Paul Sykes will continue in his role as secretary.

Just got another text. He's decided to leave again.

Say my name · 19-11-2020 01:08PM

148multi wrote: »

Cull them, then pay compo for the illegal act. Everyone taken care of.

Nphet is recommending that the remaining mink farms in this country be culled.

I'm waiting for someone to suggest that dogs and cats get coronavirus.

ganmo · 19-11-2020 01:28PM

Say my name wrote: »

Nphet is recommending that the remaining mink farms in this country be culled.

I'm waiting for someone to suggest that dogs and cats get coronavirus.

Given that the Danish decision has been deemed illegal I'm not too sure that it will end up happening

Jb1989 · 19-11-2020 01:29PM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Does most people on here clip the tails of their cattle when doing their backs?
I avoid it as the risk of nicking the tail just seems too great for any benefit.
I think blackleg is the issue with nicking the tail too.

Shouldn't be any nicking unless you very hard with machine

Buford T. Justice XIX · 19-11-2020 01:59PM

Freejin wrote: »

Anybody have experience with lay flat pipe to pump slurry from one tank to another. Distance about 50m. Is it hard work trying to empty the pipe after? Does it need to be cleaned with water to stop it going hard inside? Will only be used maybe three times per year

We have it here to pump to an overground tank. Simple to empty, just leave one end in the tank and walk along it moving the slurry with your foot to the end in the tank. After that, we just pull it around the base of the tank and let it there till needed again. It's been used that way for 17 years now and no problems.

I've heard lads say the newer lay flat pipes aren't as strong or durable but we'll worry about that when ours bursts, I suppose.

148multi · 19-11-2020 02:52PM

Freejin wrote: »

Anybody have experience with lay flat pipe to pump slurry from one tank to another. Distance about 50m. Is it hard work trying to empty the pipe after? Does it need to be cleaned with water to stop it going hard inside? Will only be used maybe three times per year

Lads blow a fert bag through with a compressor to to clean it, use bag like a balloon.

148multi · 19-11-2020 03:04PM

Say my name wrote: »

Nphet is recommending that the remaining mink farms in this country be culled.

I'm waiting for someone to suggest that dogs and cats get coronavirus.

Wasn't there a lad talking to Claire Byrne this morning, he was representing the mink farms I think, he mentioned that some dogs contracted the virus, but he didn't get far with that.

Say my name · 19-11-2020 03:32PM

148multi wrote: »

Wasn't there a lad talking to Claire Byrne this morning, he was representing the mink farms I think, he mentioned that some dogs contracted the virus, but he didn't get far with that.

It is getting more difficult to believe that there's not other measures being taken now when we have this virus.

I suppose unless someone reveals the enigma code we'll never find out! :pac:

_Brian · 19-11-2020 05:26PM

148multi wrote: »

Wasn't there a lad talking to Claire Byrne this morning, he was representing the mink farms I think, he mentioned that some dogs contracted the virus, but he didn't get far with that.

Presumably the big problem was that it seemed so easy to transmit coronavirus over and back between mink and keepers, then the virus passed back to the humans was more dangerous.

Shows the inherent dangers of new viruses in combination with intensive farming.

I’d have thought our dna was closer to pigs and that would be a more obvious over and back transmission possibility.

Say my name · 19-11-2020 06:33PM

_Brian wrote: »

Presumably the big problem was that it seemed so easy to transmit coronavirus over and back between mink and keepers, then the virus passed back to the humans was more dangerous.

Shows the inherent dangers of new viruses in combination with intensive farming.

I’d have thought our dna was closer to pigs and that would be a more obvious over and back transmission possibility.

The mink in Denmark hadn't got the virus nor the mink in Ireland presumably don't either.

It's pre-emptive supposition with an agenda to end mink farming.

_Brian · 19-11-2020 07:03PM

Say my name wrote: »

The mink in Denmark hadn't got the virus nor the mink in Ireland presumably don't either.

It's pre-emptive supposition with an agenda to end mink farming.

Oh.
I was sure it happened in Denmark

https://www.who.int/csr/don/06-november-2020-mink-associated-sars-cov2-denmark/en/

Say my name · 19-11-2020 07:26PM

_Brian wrote: »

Oh.
I was sure it happened in Denmark

https://www.who.int/csr/don/06-november-2020-mink-associated-sars-cov2-denmark/en/

https://www.euronews.com/2020/11/18/coronavirus-denmark-s-agriculture-minister-resigns-over-illegal-order-to-cull-mink

Dinzee Conlee · 19-11-2020 07:34PM

Say my name wrote: »

https://www.euronews.com/2020/11/18/coronavirus-denmark-s-agriculture-minister-resigns-over-illegal-order-to-cull-mink

Say my name wrote: »

The mink in Denmark hadn't got the virus nor the mink in Ireland presumably don't either.

It's pre-emptive supposition with an agenda to end mink farming.

That article states
“ could only cull mink where the infection had been detected or in the immediate area”
And
“ The first cases of coronavirus in minks were detected in June ”

So it would seem some mink had the virus...

Say my name · 19-11-2020 07:37PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

That article states
“ could only cull mink where the infection had been detected or in the immediate area”
And
“ The first cases of coronavirus in minks were detected in June ”

So it would seem some mink had the virus...

But they culled mink (a total wipeout) that hadn't got the virus. Hence the agriculture minister resigned as it was deemed illegal and the calls for the prime minister to resign.

_Brian · 19-11-2020 07:40PM

Say my name wrote: »

But they culled mink (a total wipeout) that hadn't got the virus. Hence the agriculture minister resigned as it was deemed illegal and the calls for the prime minister to resign.

That’s not unusual surely.
If a few chickens in a flock have avian flu the whole flock is culled and indeed there have been instances where neighboring flicks have been culled as a precaution.

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