What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

Patser · 18-11-2020 08:00PM

killbillvol2 wrote: »

I'd he fairly p1ssed off if I'd paid full price for that selection.

Sorry to drop in on this thread with a question straight away?

But Wife is asking what I'd like for Christmas, and I was thinking of getting an annual whiskey subscription, possibly Flaviar - and not to pick on quoted comment, but is it worth it?

I'd say I'm only starting out as a whiskey lover - Woodford reserve is personal favourite - so idea of surprise variety of whiskey tasters to open my horizons would be preferable - about €200 year budget. Flaviar best recommendation, or any better options? Especially regards surprise, non selected choices

Quackster · 18-11-2020 08:39PM

picachu wrote: »

What are your christmas whiskies this year?

I'm thinking mine will be Lagavulin 16. Ardbeg Uigeadal. A Blue Spot if I can get my hands on one or a Redbreast Cask Strength.

What about you guys?

This year it's very much a case of making the most of the supermarket offers, with the ending of the use of loyalty vouchers come the 11th January next.

Picked up a bottle of Liberties Copper Alley 10YO in Dunnes today reduced from €55 to €35. (SEL said €40 but scanned @ €35.) Haven't had Liberties in my collection before so today seemed like a good day to correct that!

Cazale · 18-11-2020 09:03PM

Good review for blue spot from Malt. They are normally fairly harsh on their Irish reviews.

https://malt-review.com/2020/11/18/blue-spot-single-pot-still-cask-strength/

janiejones · 18-11-2020 09:34PM

Geez. They gave green spot leoville 6 out of 10? I don't think I can trust them

Insect Overlord · 18-11-2020 09:49PM

janiejones wrote: »

Geez. They gave green spot leoville 6 out of 10? I don't think I can trust them

They also need a proofreader! Superfluous apostrophes all over the shop, and repeated use of who's when they should have written whose! :P

1901Rory · 18-11-2020 10:04PM

Patser wrote: »

Sorry to drop in on this thread with a question straight away?

But Wife is asking what I'd like for Christmas, and I was thinking of getting an annual whiskey subscription, possibly Flaviar - and not to pick on quoted comment, but is it worth it?

I'd say I'm only starting out as a whiskey lover - Woodford reserve is personal favourite - so idea of surprise variety of whiskey tasters to open my horizons would be preferable - about €200 year budget. Flaviar best recommendation, or any better options? Especially regards surprise, non selected choices

The Celtic Whiskey Shop have a club for €71 which could also be an option.
https://www.celticwhiskeyshop.com/celtic-whiskey-club-ireland?search=Club

“Membership gives you exclusive access to samples of new and exciting whiskeys including cask samples, limited editions and exclusive bottlings.
Members receive new samples in the post every two months. “

I only joined this January, but the samples sent so far are Eagle Rare 10, Teeling Brabazon Vol 3, Kilbeggan Pot Still, Egan’s Centenary, Teeling 28yo, and Celtic Cask 26.

Cazale · 18-11-2020 11:24PM

janiejones wrote:

Geez. They gave green spot leoville 6 out of 10? I don't think I can trust them

They review Irish whiskey through the prism of the more established Scottish industry so 8/10 is a very good score. Your man Phil who reviewed the Leoville would tell you himself that he is a bit of a cranky bollox.

Cazale · 18-11-2020 11:40PM

Tipperary have released their Own Barley Single Cask. Limited to 298 bottles, this is the first release from Tipperary to be produced using barley from the family farm. 60.8% and finished in ex rioja cask. â‚¬150 a bottle.

irish_goat · 18-11-2020 11:53PM

Cazale wrote: »

Tipperary have released their Own Barley Single Cask. Limited to 298 bottles, this is the first release from Tipperary to be produced using barley from the family farm. 60.8% and finished in ex rioja cask. â‚¬150 a bottle.

Mad money, but I'm sure they'll sell out.

Starlord_01 · 19-11-2020 09:45AM

Christmas Present

Planning on getting a bottle of Irish for a friend for Christmas - want to spend no more than €40 and will be ordering from CWS as will be getting some other bits from them too.

Any recommendations? Currently looking at The Whistler Double Oaked or Irishman Founders Reserve.

odyssey06 · 19-11-2020 10:05AM

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Christmas Present
Planning on getting a bottle of Irish for a friend for Christmas - want to spend no more than €40 and will be ordering from CWS as will be getting some other bits from them too.
Any recommendations? Currently looking at The Whistler Double Oaked or Irishman Founders Reserve.

Lambay small batch is on offer at €30 in CWS down from €45... finished in cognac casks. So if your friend also likes cognac they might appreciate that.

cloudatlas · 19-11-2020 10:27AM

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Christmas Present

Planning on getting a bottle of Irish for a friend for Christmas - want to spend no more than €40 and will be ordering from CWS as will be getting some other bits from them too.

Any recommendations? Currently looking at The Whistler Double Oaked or Irishman Founders Reserve.

Jameson Black Barrel is on offer in O'Briens at the moment.
https://www.obrienswine.ie/products/jameson-black-barrel-70cl

illdoit2morrow · 19-11-2020 11:09AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Jameson Black Barrel is on offer in O'Briens at the moment.
https://www.obrienswine.ie/products/jameson-black-barrel-70cl

Can be got in Tesco for €35 too until 24th November.

the beer revolu · 19-11-2020 11:18AM

irish_goat wrote: »

Mad money, but I'm sure they'll sell out.

I wouldn't be so sure.
There isn't much appetite for high end, third party whiskies.
Also considering people but so much weight to age statements, I think this will struggle at that price.

Hogzy · 19-11-2020 11:43AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure.
There isn't much appetite for high end, third party whiskies.
Also considering people but so much weight to age statements, I think this will struggle at that price.

Agreed! I have the three Dunvilles 18yr single casks that were released this year (the 55%, 48% and 54% ones) and I cant move them on! Yet the 12 year cask strengths are fetching almost twice their RRP. The 18yr's taste unreal aswell. I dont get it at all!

irish_goat · 19-11-2020 12:46PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure.
There isn't much appetite for high end, third party whiskies.
Also considering people but so much weight to age statements, I think this will struggle at that price.

I was thinking based on the small numbers; shift a few here, shift a few to the US, shift a few to Asia.

Choc Chip · 19-11-2020 01:24PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure.
There isn't much appetite for high end, third party whiskies.
Also considering people but so much weight to age statements, I think this will struggle at that price.

I'm not sure you can term it third party when they performed every step but took their grain to a distillery to be distilled by their own distiller?

It's like saying whiplash didn't brew their own beer before they had their own facility.

newbie runner · 19-11-2020 01:26PM

I see a bottle of the recently released Bushmills Causeway Collection 2006 Marsala Cask finish (Austrarlia Exclusive) has found its way up onto the Celtic Whiskey Auction this month.Does anyone know if a few bottles did actually get released in Ireland, or is it that some shrewd punter managed to get one sent back to flip over here?

adrian522 · 19-11-2020 01:55PM

Blue Spot up on the Mitchells site now if anyone is looking for one.

Mellor · 19-11-2020 02:03PM

Choc Chip wrote: »

I'm not sure you can term it third party when they performed every step but took their grain to a distillery to be distilled by their own distiller?

That’s quite a awkward sentence to decipher.

The simple fact is they do now own a distillery. Which means it is absolutely third party. The fact it is their barley is a nice touch, but it doesn’t make it their whiskey.
Otherwise every barley farmer in the land could lay claim to all sorts if whiskeys.

I’ve commented before that age statements are one factor not the only factor. But I can see nothing here to justify €150 for a very young (4 year old?) whiskey.

the beer revolu · 19-11-2020 02:03PM

Choc Chip wrote: »

I'm not sure you can term it third party when they performed every step but took their grain to a distillery to be distilled by their own distiller?

It's like saying whiplash didn't brew their own beer before they had their own facility.

I'd question the bit in bold.
Have you evidence of this?

They no more made that whiskey than any grain farmer makes the whiskey that is made from their grain.

Third party distilling isn't like gypsy brewing where the brewer actually makes the beer in the "borrowed facility".
With third party distilling, it's more like ordering the whiskey you want made from a book or just selecting from a stock of made whiskey.
It is quite likely that no one from Tipperary Whiskey has even been in the distillery that made this liquid.
I can't find any real info on this whiskey so I don't even know if all the barley in the whiskey came from their farm or just some of it.

It's not a distillery's own whiskey, no matter what way it's dressed up.

Starlord_01 · 19-11-2020 02:10PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Lambay small batch is on offer at €30 in CWS down from €45... finished in cognac casks. So if your friend also likes cognac they might appreciate that.

Happy days, looking for something less "mainstream".

Effects · 19-11-2020 02:39PM

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Happy days, looking for something less "mainstream".

Lambay isn't that mainstream. Tricky with your budget as well.

Choc Chip · 19-11-2020 02:43PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

I'd question the bit in bold.
Have you evidence of this?

They no more made that whiskey than any grain farmer makes the whiskey that is made from their grain.

Third party distilling isn't like gypsy brewing where the brewer actually makes the beer in the "borrowed facility".
With third party distilling, it's more like ordering the whiskey you want made from a book or just selecting from a stock of made whiskey.
It is quite likely that no one from Tipperary Whiskey has even been in the distillery that made this liquid.
I can't find any real info on this whiskey so I don't even know if all the barley in the whiskey came from their farm or just some of it.

It's not a distillery's own whiskey, no matter what way it's dressed up.

I've been at a tasting where it was said and their distiller was on the event last night and said it as well. A quick google gave me that: https://www.thetaste.ie/tipperary-boutique-distillery-barley/

i don't know why they would say that they did distil it, and not do it if they have a distiller on their team.

they've definitely said it's all their barley

Stuart199 · 19-11-2020 02:53PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

I'd question the bit in bold.
Have you evidence of this?

They no more made that whiskey than any grain farmer makes the whiskey that is made from their grain.

Third party distilling isn't like gypsy brewing where the brewer actually makes the beer in the "borrowed facility".
With third party distilling, it's more like ordering the whiskey you want made from a book or just selecting from a stock of made whiskey.
It is quite likely that no one from Tipperary Whiskey has even been in the distillery that made this liquid.
I can't find any real info on this whiskey so I don't even know if all the barley in the whiskey came from their farm or just some of it.

It's not a distillery's own whiskey, no matter what way it's dressed up.

So are you suggesting that they made this up, that it is all a pack of lies - what an accusation.
Fact 1 - The barley was grown on the farm in Tipperary
Fact 2 - They negotiated conditions with the distiller that they could produce the distillate to their own parameters.

Just waiting for the apology now.

Starlord_01 · 19-11-2020 02:56PM

Effects wrote: »

Lambay isn't that mainstream. Tricky with your budget as well.

Apologies, that meant I was happy with the recommendation

picachu · 19-11-2020 02:56PM

adrian522 wrote: »

Blue Spot up on the Mitchells site now if anyone is looking for one.

Looks like it will be in Molloys and O'Briens soon. They both have it set up on their website ready for stock.

Cazale · 19-11-2020 02:58PM

Some new virtual tastings up on Celtic whiskey. Midleton, Springbank and Longrow.

the beer revolu · 19-11-2020 03:11PM

Stuart199 wrote: »

So are you suggesting that they made this up, that it is all a pack of lies - what an accusation.
Fact 1 - The barley was grown on the farm in Tipperary
Fact 2 - They negotiated conditions with the distiller that they could produce the distillate to their own parameters.

Just waiting for the apology now.

Show me something official from Tipperary that I've said is made up, please.
I questioned whether all of the barley in that whiskey came from their farm. I never suggested none of it did. I'm happy to believe that all the barley came from their farm - I just haven't seen that claim made.

I'm still suggesting that their distiller didn't distil this whiskey.
Nothing I've seen from them suggests otherwise, and this would be the norm.
It's completely normal practice to specify what kind of liquid you want from a distillery - you don't call up a big distillery and just ask for some whiskey. Producing to your client's parameters is how it usually happens unless you are choosing from existing, aged stock.

I still don't get what you are accusing me of and why you want me to apologise to you.

ZV Yoda · 19-11-2020 04:12PM

Cazale wrote: »

Some new virtual tastings up on Celtic whiskey. Midleton, Springbank and Longrow.

I signed up for Midelton earlier

What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

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