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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    normakelle wrote: »
    Mass murders what hyperbole. We all know what to do, wash our hands, wear our masks, keep our distance, If you are old and vulnerable cocoon. Whether we we adhere to that is our personal choice. Each governor governs their own state, Even if Trump ordered a national lock down it wouldn't happen. With some of ye you would imagine Trump was personally infecting them. It is a country of 370 million. The deaths are mounting all over the world. You can slow it down but unfortunately the inevitable happens We were told bad case senario was 10,000 deaths and we are at 2. Faucci said 2 million they are at 250,000

    You might want to re-read the post you quoted, it doesn't mention mass murders. You just made that up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    You might want to re-read the post you quoted, it doesn't mention mass murders. You just made that up.

    I would say posting mass murders instead of deaths would count as hyperbole ironically enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    normakelle wrote: »
    Mass murders what hyperbole. We all know what to do, wash our hands, wear our masks, keep our distance, If you are old and vulnerable cocoon. Whether we we adhere to that is our personal choice. Each governor governs their own state, Even if Trump ordered a national lock down it wouldn't happen. With some of ye you would imagine Trump was personally infecting them. It is a country of 370 million. The deaths are mounting all over the world. You can slow it down but unfortunately the inevitable happens We were told bad case senario was 10,000 deaths and we are at 2. Faucci said 2 million they are at 250,000

    Well he did do rallies while infected so yes he would have infected some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    normakelle wrote: »
    Mass murders what hyperbole. We all know what to do, wash our hands, wear our masks, keep our distance, If you are old and vulnerable cocoon. Whether we we adhere to that is our personal choice. Each governor governs their own state, Even if Trump ordered a national lock down it wouldn't happen. With some of ye you would imagine Trump was personally infecting them. It is a country of 370 million. The deaths are mounting all over the world. You can slow it down but unfortunately the inevitable happens We were told bad case senario was 10,000 deaths and we are at 2. Faucci said 2 million they are at 250,000

    the number of deaths per day is increasing. tell us again about the wonderful work they are doing to slow it down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,042 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    So another 2 months of zero leadership, mass deaths and no plan.
    Biden needs to be in charge now.

    What can Biden do that Trump hasn't besides call for lockdowns and masks?
    I really don't see how he's going to make the slightest difference when there's 80 million who don't even believe he's a legitimate president elect.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    salmocab wrote: »
    I would say posting mass murders instead of deaths would count as hyperbole ironically enough

    my apologies meant mass deaths


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    What can Biden do that Trump hasn't besides call for lockdowns and masks?
    I really don't see how he's going to make the slightest difference when there's 80 million who don't even believe he's a legitimate president elect.

    They have had lockdowns, They do wear masks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,378 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Operation Warped Mind got the vaccine out fast, I read somewhere it can take up to 12 years for some drugs to go from start to shelf.



    Pfizer are not part of OWS and never were. They were first to market also.

    He's Pfizer were fast based on their own investment and merits .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,378 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    normakelle wrote: »
    They have had lockdowns, They do wear masks.

    It's ridiculously undifficult to pull this post apart . So I won't bother.


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    What can Biden do that Trump hasn't besides call for lockdowns and masks?
    I really don't see how he's going to make the slightest difference when there's 80 million who don't even believe he's a legitimate president elect.

    Good question. If only there was a way of using the internet to find the answer to this in a matter of seconds.

    Oh wait.

    https://joebiden.com/covid19/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    the number of deaths per day is increasing. tell us again about the wonderful work they are doing to slow it down.

    They have had lockdowns, they wear masks, It's the same as here once you reopen again Then the inevitable happens. You have to balance the economy, mental health against shutdowns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    normakelle wrote: »
    my apologies meant mass deaths

    1,707 deaths yesterday and rising, would this not count as mass deaths?

    If not, what number of deaths per day would you consider as mass deaths?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    normakelle wrote: »
    my apologies meant mass deaths

    How is calling 250,000 dead, mass deaths, hyperbole?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    What can Biden do that Trump hasn't besides call for lockdowns and masks?
    I really don't see how he's going to make the slightest difference when there's 80 million who don't even believe he's a legitimate president elect.

    do you not think that would be a good start?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭hirondelle


    normakelle wrote: »

    They have had lockdowns, they wear masks, It's the same as here once you reopen again Then the inevitable happens. You have to balance the economy, mental health against shutdowns.

    So just mandate maskwearing across the states to reduce transmission until the vaccines are administered widely. That way allows the economy to operate as near to normal as possible.
    The gobshutes in the states that want their "freedom" not to wear a mask while demanding that the economy be fully reopened are a huge part of the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    1,707 deaths yesterday and rising, would this not count as mass deaths?

    If not, what number of deaths per day would you consider as mass deaths?

    that is more than half a 9/11 every day. America went to war because of less than 3000 people but trump sits on his hands when more than half that are dying every day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    seamus wrote: »
    What we know from past experience is that Trump is not playing some kind of long game. Everything he does is purely reactionary, whatever he can do to protect his ego and satisfy the narcissist inside.

    He will not alow himself to be declared unfit to stand trial because his ego wouldn't allow him to. He would insist that all of the charges against him are false, and like Guiliani might even go as far as to represent himself if nobody else is doing a good enough job.

    From Trump's point of view, the appropriate move when an underling argues with you is to fire them and replace them with someone who will obey without question.

    What he misses is the long game - firing highly competent and highly respected top members of any organisation and replacing them with a limp patsy is a sure fire way to turn the whole organisation against you. Trump will now find it much slower and more difficult to get CISA and the DoHS to co-operate with him

    He is a dictator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    hirondelle wrote: »
    So just mandate maskwearing across the states to reduce transmission until the vaccines are administered widely. That way allows the economy to operate as near to normal as possible.
    The gobshutes in the states that want their "freedom" not to wear a mask while demanding that the economy be fully reopened are a huge part of the problem.

    They have to wear masks in schools, supermarkets, gyms etc the same as here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    that is more than half a 9/11 every day. America went to war because of less than 3000 people but trump sits on his hands when more than half that are dying every day.

    They do much the same as we did in level at level 3. the kids have only just gone back to actual school and they have to wear masks even the little kids. It is a population of 340 million people each state with different laws.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    salmocab wrote: »
    How is calling 250,000 dead, mass deaths, hyperbole?

    It is a polpulation of 340 million. In general they live their lives at level 3.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭hirondelle


    normakelle wrote: »
    They have to wear masks in schools, supermarkets, gyms etc the same as here

    Yes, that's why the health officials are saying the mandate needs to be extended if the economy is to reopen, but "muh freedom" etc. is apparently more important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    normakelle wrote: »
    They do much the same as we did in level at level 3. the kids have only just gone back to actual school and they have to wear masks even the little kids. It is a population of 340 million people each state with different laws.

    except they are not really, are they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,042 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    He is a dictator.

    Yet Biden is already trying to dictate and he's not even elected yet. Telling people they can't leave their homes, can't earn a living or enjoy other peoples company, can't worship etc is dictatorship.

    Trump is about as far from a dictator as you can get, he's closer to Ronald Regan school of politics than the Ayatollah Khamenei.
    If you think he's the new Hitelr you've been completely brainwashed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    do you not think that would be a good start?

    They wear masks, they have had lockdowns. Biden is a career politician he says the right things, He wants minimum wage to go to 15 dollars an hour and talking about forgiving student. Heck I would vote for him too if I was young and thought this would happen but unfortunately it is lip service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    normakelle wrote: »


    They wear masks, they have had lockdowns. Biden is a career politician he says the right things, He wants minimum wage to go to 15 dollars an hour and talking about forgiving student. Heck I would vote for him too if I was young and thought this would happen but unfortunately it is lip service.

    did you see the mass rallies that trump held? not much in the way of mask wearing there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    What can Biden do that Trump hasn't besides call for lockdowns and masks?
    I really don't see how he's going to make the slightest difference when there's 80 million who don't even believe he's a legitimate president elect.

    Follow the science and scientists.
    Shocking I know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    Yet Biden is already trying to dictate and he's not even elected yet. Telling people they can't leave their homes, can't earn a living or enjoy other peoples company, can't worship etc is dictatorship.

    Trump is about as far from a dictator as you can get, he's closer to Ronald Regan school of politics than the Ayatollah Khamenei.
    If you think he's the new Hitelr you've been completely brainwashed.

    thank god someone with a bit of commonsense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭hirondelle


    Yet Biden is already trying to dictate and he's not even elected yet. Telling people they can't leave their homes, can't earn a living or enjoy other peoples company, can't worship etc is dictatorship.

    Trump is about as far from a dictator as you can get, he's closer to Ronald Regan school of politics than the Ayatollah Khamenei.
    If you think he's the new Hitelr you've been completely brainwashed.

    Does Biden have armed forces at his disposal to enforce this dictatorship?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Yet Biden is already trying to dictate and he's not even elected yet. Telling people they can't leave their homes, can't earn a living or enjoy other peoples company, can't worship etc is dictatorship.

    Trump is about as far from a dictator as you can get, he's closer to Ronald Regan school of politics than the Ayatollah Khamenei.
    If you think he's the new Hitelr you've been completely brainwashed.

    ronald reagan would have not have sat with his thumb up his ass while 1700 people die every day.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    except they are not really, are they?

    Of course they are. My brother lives in Texas. You cannot go into a supermarket gym, etc without a mask.


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