Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

Cork2021 · 17-11-2020 10:25PM

Arghus wrote: »

The thread has basically become the relaxation of restrictions thread over in the last 48 hours.

Are you concerned and is the next 48hrs crucial?

wakka12 · 17-11-2020 10:25PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That's for the UK btw

True, certainly very encouraging sign that there has also been no increase in suicide rates here though. Especially as our excess deaths are so much lower than the UK's per capita would further reinforce that theory

CalamariFritti · 17-11-2020 10:26PM

Arghus wrote: »

The thread has basically become the relaxation of restrictions thread over in the last 48 hours.

I noticed that. Is it infiltration?

Or is there a mood shift or just coincidence?

SEPT 23 1989 · 17-11-2020 10:26PM

Two options

Keep this bubbling under the lid at level five or let it explode like the rest of Europe

Be honest with the people enough of the next two weeks are crucial bullsh1t

A knackered horse following a carrot on a string

ACitizenErased · 17-11-2020 10:27PM

Arghus wrote: »

The thread has basically become the relaxation of restrictions thread over in the last 48 hours.

Who's asking for relaxed restrictions?

funnydoggy · 17-11-2020 10:28PM

Arghus wrote: »

The thread has basically become the relaxation of restrictions thread over in the last 48 hours.

The tone is changing because more people are sick to the back teeth of the government and NPHET's moves I think. I know I am, and many people I know.

Removal of restrictions is not something I want, but removal of blanket restrictions is. Small and medium businesses are dying because of them.

Kermit.de.frog · 17-11-2020 10:30PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

People are sick to the back teeth of the government and NPHET's moves I think. I know I am, and many people I know.

Do you speak for the population?

KrustyUCC · 17-11-2020 10:31PM

Strumms wrote: »

I wonder is that a tactic by the media at government behest, not to spook the public ? If they had that as a headline on six one followed by... xxx Gardai and army off duty due to contracting covid... I’m all for transparency but I think that’s not in the public interest.

Why would that spook the public?

Almost a quarter of todays cases are healthcare workers

That's a fact and a very big one

I haven't heard the INMO etc complaining about lack of PPE in quite a while

Why are cases so large amongst healthcare workers?

If we don't know that we don't know how to fix these issues from cropping up again

funnydoggy · 17-11-2020 10:32PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Do you speak for the population?

I'm speaking about the change in tone in this thread. I may have worded it wrong, cheers for the heads up.

Plumbthedepths · 17-11-2020 10:34PM

Allinall wrote: »

You have little to be wondering about.

You ok?

froog · 17-11-2020 10:36PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

I noticed that. Is it infiltration? Or is there a mood shift or just coincidence?

it seems they got bored of just liking each others posts and agreeing with each other all the time in the other thread.

copeyhagen · 17-11-2020 10:37PM

froog wrote: »

it seems they got bored of just liking each others posts and agreeing with each other all the time in the other thread.

i agree, and i like your post.

Kermit.de.frog · 17-11-2020 10:38PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Of 456 cases yesterday, 97 were healthcare workers. 21% of yesterday's cases were healthcare workers.
But the public is at fault.

Absolutely ****ing scandalous.

No one has said the public are at fault. No one I have read or heard.

We are in the middle of a pandemic. This is part and parcel of how historically it plays out.

Why is everyone so paranoid?

Arghus · 17-11-2020 10:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The cheerleaders for Tony Holohan and NPHET miss this point entirely. People treated as robotic beings that should automatically fall in line, and there is virtually no recognition for our sacrifices. None of these experts would relish being in my position, enforced PUP for months. It is demeaning and dehumanising, sure who gives a flying fathom at the top. And then you witness some resolutely ignorant posters here who parrot the party line about having to adhere to the restrictions, these same individuals of course stand to lose nothing.

Bertie, I'm very sorry, sincerely, to hear about your current situation. I know many people personally in the same boat. I know people who have lost their jobs permanently - jobs that won't coming back no matter what happens. The way this situation has not been fair across the board - some people are still doing the same work and earning the same money and some people have lost everything through no fault of their own.

But the point you made about recognition is worth exploring. Genuinely, what kind of recognition would you like to see or feel comfortable with?

I don't know if I qualify as a resolutely ignorant poster - that's for others to decide - but I do try, even if I don't always succeed, to understand where people are coming from when they post in good faith, even about something I disagree with. But, yes, I do believe in adhering to restrictions because I don't see how not adhering them really achieves anything in the final analysis aside from prolonging the misery and the duration of this crisis. I'm open to having my mind changed on this but I really quite honestly have not heard it argued convincingly otherwise since March.

Cork2021 · 17-11-2020 10:40PM

Prime Time!!!! Jack Lambert breath of fresh air!!

Akabusi · 17-11-2020 10:41PM

I don't give a fcuk what restrictions are in place come Christmas, I am going to enjoy it. This endless hysteria and concern from RTE and Tony & Co has become tiresome.These restrictions have done their job when you.consider the schools have stayed open and yet hospitals have not been overrun. Therefore I'm going to visit family and friends and eat and drink way too much. Come January I'll gladly lock down myself, its a ****ty month anyhow.

screamer · 17-11-2020 10:42PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Why would that spook the public?

Almost a quarter of todays cases are healthcare workers

That's a fact and a very big one

I haven't heard the INMO etc complaining about lack of PPE in quite a while

Why are cases so large amongst healthcare workers?

If we don't know that we don't know how to fix these issues from cropping up again

PPE that the staff have is rubbish, unless they are covid designated healthcare providers, them they get the good stuff. if you think about healthcare settings, lot of people in one place, heating up to the last, poor to no ventilation, same doctors/nurses/cleaners and carers being shared around, shared rooms, breathing the same air, and horrible inside toilets that also have no ventilation, you've the perfect petri dish for covid to thrive. oh, and the delay in admission to testing meabs a covid +ve person can be in a room or ward already spreading it, before anyone even knows they have it. poor healthcare workers, they really have the sh:t end of the stick too often.

wadacrack · 17-11-2020 10:43PM

Important to remember this as deaths are so high all across Europe.

https://twitter.com/docjamesw/status/1328433601025695744

ACitizenErased · 17-11-2020 10:44PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Do you speak for the population?

You act like you speak on behalf of the Government, to be fair.

Kermit.de.frog · 17-11-2020 10:44PM

Worst day for deaths in Europe today since the peak of the first wave.

Germany is going to end the day with it's worst daily death toll since the pandemic began. 355 deaths so far today.

France 625 deaths

Italy 713 deaths

UK 598

Spain 435

Ireland has the right approach as seen in the figures for this country.

Kermit.de.frog · 17-11-2020 10:46PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Important to remember this as deaths are so high all across Europe.

https://twitter.com/docjamesw/status/1328433601025695744

+1. Well said that man.

Plumbthedepths · 17-11-2020 10:49PM

Nice to hear a different opinion to lockdown on Primetime.

bodhrandude · 17-11-2020 10:51PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I'm beginning to wonder how will Tony and the rest of the 'celebrities' cope with obscurity when this passes. Which it inevitably will.

Maybe he'll become the new host for Winning Streak.

majcos · 17-11-2020 10:52PM

The 188 staff in self isolation in Limerick is across the UL Hospital Group which employs over 4000 people. Thankfully not all are of those are positive but many in self isolation as deemed close contacts.

Of course, the missing staff are clumped in certain areas. This means that there may be a whole group of staff that have the same specific skills that are out at the one time. Depending on that specific staff group, this can create major problems as those staff may not be at all easily interchangeable with other staff members.

For example, if 60% of the oncology nurses are all suddenly out as positive cases or close contacts, a cardiology nurse cannot easily fill in the gap.

Mass testing was being planned across the whole of UL Hospital Group. If that has started, it may explain the high number of healthcare workers testing positive today. (Obviously not the whole 97 but it may have contributed to some of the increase)

Kermit.de.frog · 17-11-2020 10:53PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Nice to hear a different opinion to lockdown on Primetime.

Which crank was it this time?

funnydoggy · 17-11-2020 10:53PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Which crank was it this time?

The crank is Cillian de Gascun tbh

Plumbthedepths · 17-11-2020 10:55PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Which crank was it this time?

McConkey wasn't available tonight. ;-)

17-11-2020 10:56PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

McConkey wasn't available tonight. ;-)

you leave mcconkey alone

giveitholly · 17-11-2020 10:57PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

No one has said the public are at fault. No one I have read or heard.

We are in the middle of a pandemic. This is part and parcel of how historically it plays out.

Why is everyone so paranoid?

There was a doctor on Radio 1 news today at 1pm blamimg the public for the outbreak in UHL,basically saying people(presume she meant the staff) were meeting up in households and holding parties and bringing it into the hospital

Plumbthedepths · 17-11-2020 10:57PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

Maybe he'll become the new host for Winning Streak.

His sights are perhaps set higher. Mickey D won't last forever.

Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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