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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I read that Biden is quoted as saying more people may die' if Trump doesn't ensure smooth transfer of power'

    Biden's point was that he cannot attend any of the presidential meetings and there is no plan for a transition.

    So he's going to land in the White House in January with no preparation and no handover, which could potentially cost lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I read that Biden is quoted as saying more people may die' if Trump doesn't ensure smooth transfer of power'

    I mean, it's really worrying to me that this kind of politic (by any side tbh) and reportage is somehow now normal behaviour in society and that normal people just think its perfectly fine to come out with it without any critical review or thought.

    Its accusing people of murder and genocide.

    Really?

    I am actually really interested to see how these same people and politic are going to react once Biden is in the white house, doing exactly the same stuff as Trump or any other POTUS does or will do. I suspect it won't be the same.

    Its crazy stuff.

    what do you think the outcome will be if there is no smooth transition of power? Biden will have to spend time clearing up that mess before he can make any positive changes. In the meantime more people will die of covid who dont have to. what about that causes you problems?


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    I read that Biden is quoted as saying more people may die' if Trump doesn't ensure smooth transfer of power'

    You don't think that's true?

    Edit: Had a quick look at your post history. Oof, that's a no from me dawg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,414 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    John Oliver fantastic as usual
    https://youtu.be/cMz_sTgoydQ
    It really shows how ridiculous the voter fraud claims are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    I read that Biden is quoted as saying more people may die' if Trump doesn't ensure smooth transfer of power'

    I mean, it's really worrying to me that this kind of politic (by any side tbh) and reportage is somehow now normal behaviour in society and that normal people just think its perfectly fine to come out with it without any critical review or thought.

    Its accusing people of murder and genocide.

    Really?

    I am actually really interested to see how these same people and politic are going to react once Biden is in the white house, doing exactly the same stuff as Trump or any other POTUS does or will do. I suspect it won't be the same.

    Its crazy stuff.

    'more people will die'- future tense
    Murder and genecude would be something in the past tense.

    Be best to actually read what you're typing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    You don't think that's true?

    Edit: Had a quick look at your post history. Oof, that's a no from me dawg.

    Had a look through your post history, Oof, you continue to play the man not the ball in your discussions....


    I don't think it's of any relevance what happens before the inauguration.
    Until you've the hand on the tiller, you can read as many maps as you like but you still won't be any better prepared.

    Its virtue signalling and playing the gallery by Biden.
    Get used to it though. Trump will snarl at you and kick you in the balls, Biden will smile at you and kick you in the balls. Its all the same thing though.

    I thought Obama was better than to follow suit though. I was disappointed with that.

    But What is wrong with ensuring democracy is honored? why are the Dems not also demanding that the vote is checked and validated and that as is only right, the winner is only declared as such once complete?

    Lets switcharoo, why are the Dems constantly undermining the POTUS at every turn and opportunity? Why are they distracting him and the current administration in its emergency effort to work through Covid? Do they themselves not realise that this constant electioneering, virtue signalling and playing to the media is itself going to cost lives?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    duploelabs wrote: »
    'more people will die'- future tense
    Murder and genecude would be something in the past tense.

    Be best to actually read what you're typing
    they willingly helped the worst American President in 100 years kill a half million* of your fellow citizens.

    * cough *

    (oh, and turn your spell checker on lol)


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    But What is wrong with ensuring democracy is honored? why are the Dems not also demanding that the vote is checked and validated and that as is only right, the winner is only declared as such once complete?

    Because there's been no evidence to suggest that it is necessary, just like there was no evidence for previous presidential elections.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Had a look through your post history, Oof, you continue to play the man not the ball in your discussions....


    I don't think it's of any relevance what happens before the inauguration.
    Until you've the hand on the tiller, you can read as many maps as you like but you still won't be any better prepared.

    Its virtue signalling and playing the gallery by Biden.
    Get used to it though. Trump will snarl at you and kick you in the balls, Biden will smile at you and kick you in the balls. Its all the same thing though.

    I thought Obama was better than to follow suit though. I was disappointed with that.

    But What is wrong with ensuring democracy is honored? why are the Dems not also demanding that the vote is checked and validated and that as is only right, the winner is only declared as such once complete?

    Lets switcharoo, why are the Dems constantly undermining the POTUS at every turn and opportunity? Why are they distracting him and the current administration in its emergency effort to work through Covid? Do they themselves not realise that this constant electioneering, virtue signalling and playing to the media is itself going to cost lives?

    what emergency work would this be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    Because there's been no evidence to suggest that it is necessary, just like there was no evidence for previous presidential elections.

    Shouldn't have any issue with making the case for validation then huh?

    Nothing to hide, nothing fear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    what emergency work would this be?

    Oh nothing, my bad, sorry.

    The whole of the current administration is just sat around the oval table sucking down Darjeeling and chatting **** to Mrs Nesbit obviously. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Oh nothing, my bad, sorry.

    The whole of the current administration is just sat around the oval table sucking down Darjeeling and chatting **** to Mrs Nesbit obviously. :rolleyes:

    trump spends his time tweeting about "stolen" elections. hasn't attended a meeting about covid in months. So tell me what work they are doing. It shouldn't be that difficult if they are doing so much


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    Shouldn't have any issue with making the case for validation then huh?

    Nothing to hide, nothing fear.

    That's not the point. It makes the citizens tense and anxious for no reason and doesn't allow for a smooth transition.

    Why were you not as concerned about it four years ago? Or in any of our own previous elections? If I did another quick scan of your post history, would I find any posts about you suggesting something similar should be done at previous elections? If not, why do you think that is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭What.Now


    Had a look through your post history, Oof, you continue to play the man not the ball in your discussions....


    I don't think it's of any relevance what happens before the inauguration.
    Until you've the hand on the tiller, you can read as many maps as you like but you still won't be any better prepared
    .

    Its virtue signalling and playing the gallery by Biden.
    Get used to it though. Trump will snarl at you and kick you in the balls, Biden will smile at you and kick you in the balls. Its all the same thing though.

    I thought Obama was better than to follow suit though. I was disappointed with that.

    But What is wrong with ensuring democracy is honored? why are the Dems not also demanding that the vote is checked and validated and that as is only right, the winner is only declared as such once complete?

    Lets switcharoo, why are the Dems constantly undermining the POTUS at every turn and opportunity? Why are they distracting him and the current administration in its emergency effort to work through Covid? Do they themselves not realise that this constant electioneering, virtue signalling and playing to the media is itself going to cost lives?

    The bolded part is what I want to take you up on. You think that there is no need to do any preparatory work and you'd be able to work on something the day you start that job? To put another way, should a doctor not bother going to college and learn about what he or she will need to do out in practice or wait until they are appointed a position in a hospital to just start to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Oh nothing, my bad, sorry.

    The whole of the current administration is just sat around the oval table sucking down Darjeeling and chatting **** to Mrs Nesbit obviously. :rolleyes:

    The fact you can't answer the question says all it needs to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭randd1


    gmisk wrote: »
    John Oliver fantastic as usual
    https://youtu.be/cMz_sTgoydQ
    It really shows how ridiculous the voter fraud claims are.

    Nonsense. Of course there's voter fraud. In fact, they're so good at it there is no evidence.

    Whatever about hating Hillary and given him the nod to spite the body politic, how after four years of constant lying do people follow Trump's lies and continuous attacks on democracy with absolute faith.

    You really have to be stupid, or at the very least completely pig ignorant, to be Trump supporter these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    * cough *

    (oh, and turn your spell checker on lol)
    they willingly helped the worst American President in 100 years kill a half million* of your fellow citizens.

    Where's that quote from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    trump spends his time tweeting about "stolen" elections. hasn't attended a meeting about covid in months. So tell me what work they are doing. It shouldn't be that difficult if they are doing so much

    All his time? A bit of his some? some of his time? none of his time (it's quite plausible he has a ghostwriter you know)

    Is that too analogue for you? Is your life a struggle between simple yes and no problems? Its all or nothing?, no grey zones in your world huh.

    i suppose you've never worked on large projects either, where the leads and PMs are discouraged from attending all meetings as it causes distraction?

    Hmm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Where's that quote from?

    Good grief


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    The fact you can't answer the question says all it needs to.

    I have no reply to daft questions, correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    What.Now wrote: »
    The bolded part is what I want to take you up on. You think that there is no need to do any preparatory work and you'd be able to work on something the day you start that job? To put another way, should a doctor not bother going to college and learn about what he or she will need to do out in practice or wait until they are appointed a position in a hospital to just start to do it.

    You think being prepared will take 2+ months?

    It'll take an afternoon around the oval table with key stakeholders. Anything else is just noise at this point.

    Yours is a romantic version of reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,529 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Is that too analogue for you? Is your life a struggle between simple yes and no problems? Its all or nothing?, no grey zones in your world huh.

    Good grief

    I have no reply to daft questions, correct.

    Time you had a look back at what your are posting I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    All his time? A bit of his some? some of his time? none of his time (it's quite plausible he has a ghostwriter you know)

    Is that too analogue for you? Is your life a struggle between simple yes and no problems? Its all or nothing?, no grey zones in your world huh.

    i suppose you've never worked on large projects either, where the leads and PMs are discouraged from attending all meetings as it causes distraction?

    Hmm.

    He hasn't attended ANY meetings about it. for months. 1000 people dying every day and he can't be arsed attending a meeting. Instead he held mass rallies that caused 100's of deaths. But yeah, you keep on thinking he is doing such a great job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    You think being prepared will take 2+ months?

    It'll take an afternoon around the oval table with key stakeholders. Anything else is just noise at this point.

    Yours is a romantic version of reality.

    you have not got a balls notion what you are talking about.


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    You think being prepared will take 2+ months?

    It'll take an afternoon around the oval table with key stakeholders. Anything else is just noise at this point.

    Yours is a romantic version of reality.

    Thank you for confirming that you haven't got a clue what you're doing talking about so I can spend time doing something more constructive than replying to your nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    To paraphrase yourself, do some reading

    Again, less of the childish retorts and perhaps something a bit more mature. What's the source for your quote, I'm not going to source it for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,728 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I don't think it's of any relevance what happens before the inauguration.
    Until you've the hand on the tiller, you can read as many maps as you like but you still won't be any better prepared.

    My work is project based and even in my own relatively low scale job, I would have to have handovers, to various degrees. Some are minor, some can take days, even weeks.

    With regards to a President of a large country, it would be absolutely IMPERATIVE that he be briefed on ongoing situations and where future projections are possibly going to lead. Especially during a global pandemic that has already killed a quarter of a million people in the country.

    The idea that you could just plonk someone into a position like that and not brief them is laughable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭What.Now


    You think being prepared will take 2+ months?

    It'll take an afternoon around the oval table with key stakeholders. Anything else is just noise at this point.

    Yours is a romantic version of reality.

    And this is exactly what Trump has being doing the last 4 years and we are nearly at 1/4 million deaths in his country.
    He's a lazy b____x


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I read that Biden is quoted as saying more people may die' if Trump doesn't ensure smooth transfer of power'

    I mean, it's really worrying to me that this kind of politic (by any side tbh) and reportage is somehow now normal behaviour in society and that normal people just think its perfectly fine to come out with it without any critical review or thought.

    Its accusing people of murder and genocide.

    Really?

    I am actually really interested to see how these same people and politic are going to react once Biden is in the white house, doing exactly the same stuff as Trump or any other POTUS does or will do. I suspect it won't be the same.

    Its crazy stuff.

    A smooth transition of power during a global pandemic that is killing a thousand people a day is incredibly important. So yes, instability like that will potentially contribute to deaths.


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