Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Field east · 17-11-2020 09:26AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

False.
Trump will do everything within the law to disqualify any and all "non-legal ballots", There is no way to disqualify legal ballots, That is BS. What Trumps legal team are doing is finding irregularities, Ballots that were missing important information like date, signature and so on that would normally disqualify them but it seems that they might have been counted. There is also problems with the machines that counted the ballots giving Trump votes to Biden. Not all the states have finished counting and there are a few that are recounting ballots so it is not over until the next president has been officially decided inn December.

RTE’s Brian O Donovan reporting from the US on the election is zilch on content and big on performance . What a waste of rush tax payers money . He never reports on what is still happening in states that there is still a ‘problem’ with, which ones are recounting, how all this impacts on the college votes that Biden definitely has in the bag, etc, etc.
I can get all of his utterances he reports on by following the relevant threads on BOARDS

Wanderer78 · 17-11-2020 10:42AM

metaoblivia wrote: »

Oh I know. I just like it that every day he's losing court battles and losing ground in the popular vote. I'm an American and I'm petty.

i wouldnt class you as petty at all, id imagine you re just a concerned citizen, thankfully, your country seems to be turning a significant corner, its extremely important we all encourage this

Quin_Dub · 17-11-2020 10:50AM

Grab All Association wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1328370997125410817?s=20

but, but, but something something socialism, communism, Venezuela, death panels. Stephen Hawking was British he'd have been euthanised by universal healthcare.

Tell me how wrote: »

I saw that tweet earlier.
Quite stunning isn't it in the USA in 2020 with everything going on as you say in terms of the conversation around socialism etc.

That's ok though - It's "Charity" not "Socialism".

Or something.

biko · 17-11-2020 11:07AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Reasonable people see it as holding people to account.

What do you think these lists will be used for? In what context will they be used?
What in your opinion will these staffers/admins/etc be held to account for?

Let's say Trump manages to win in court, can they then put you on an accountability list for later use? What use?

gmisk · 17-11-2020 11:09AM

Trump fans keep saying but he didn't start a war..

He is doing his best to rectify that seemingly!

Trump asked aides about striking Iran nuke site in coming weeks: report https://jrnl.ie/5269329

ohnonotgmail · 17-11-2020 11:14AM

biko wrote: »

What do you think these lists will be used for? In what context will they be used?
What in your opinion will these staffers/admins/etc be held to account for?

Let's say Trump manages to win in court, can they then put you on an accountability list for later use? What use?

held to account for any crimes that have been committed. That is what people are usually held to account for. Knowing trump there have been many and anybody that aided and abetted him should also be held to account. Do you not agree with that?

biko · 17-11-2020 11:15AM

I hope it doesn't happen, it'd be a shame to start a war now.

There are a lot of "officials said" but no names. Are NYT protecting official sources?

weisses · 17-11-2020 11:16AM

biko wrote: »

What do you think these lists will be used for? In what context will they be used?
What in your opinion will these staffers/admins/etc be held to account for?

Let's say Trump manages to win in court, can they then put you on an accountability list for later use? What use?

You named it a revenge list ... So how will this revenge play out

biko · 17-11-2020 11:19AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

held to account for any crimes that have been committed. That is what people are usually held to account for. Knowing trump there have been many and anybody that aided and abetted him should also be held to account. Do you not agree with that?

If crimes have been committed then regular process will kick in, or should have already kicked in.

“Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.” they all did crimes according to you?

weisses · 17-11-2020 11:20AM

biko wrote: »

I hope it doesn't happen, it'd be a shame to start a war now.

There are a lot of "officials said" but no names. Are NYT protecting official sources?

A lot of news outlets have their sources close to the fire ... Nothing new here

ohnonotgmail · 17-11-2020 11:21AM

biko wrote: »

If crimes have been committed then regular process will kick in, or should have already kicked in.

“Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.” they all did crimes according to you?

regular process? with Barr running the DOJ? are you having a laugh?

weisses · 17-11-2020 11:22AM

biko wrote: »

If crimes have been committed then regular process will kick in, or should have already kicked in

Remind me.... what happened to Michael Flynn again ?

Zubeneschamali · 17-11-2020 11:23AM

biko wrote: »

What do you think these list will be used for? In what context will they be used?
What in your opinion will they be held to account for?

Crimes. Covering up crimes.

Take Bill Barr, the current AG. Was welcomed by both parties as AG in 1991, but advocating for pardons of Iran Contra crimes means he went on everyone's list.

When Trump appointed him AG, everyone knew crimes and coverups were coming and 45 Democrats voted against him.

Thats the sort of list we are talking about - everyone who helped Trump should be on a list, none of them should be hired by an honest employer ever again, and everyone should know when a crook hires them and boycott them forever.

WrenBoy · 17-11-2020 11:24AM

weisses wrote: »

You named it a revenge list ... So how will this revenge play out

Depends on how far this list goes, officials in the white house and career politicians Im not worried about people should know what they stand for and what they do and don't support but private citizens who donate money or people who helped campaign or raised money locally they should not be treated like this.

It'll make people think twice about getting involved in politics or supporting a candidate that bucks the mainstream talking points thats for sure. Thats the goal of course, stay in your place and keep quiet or we'll make life tough for you.

Maybe their name will be flagged when potential employers search them during the hiring process. Who knows?

biko · 17-11-2020 11:25AM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Thats the sort of list we are talking about - everyone who helped Trump should be on a list, none of them should be hired by an honest employer ever again, and everyone should know when a crook hires them and boycott them forever.

So, revenge.

Smee_Again · 17-11-2020 11:33AM

biko wrote: »

So, revenge.

Consequences.

weisses · 17-11-2020 11:34AM

WrenBoy wrote: »

Depends on how far this list goes, officials in the white house and career politicians Im not worried about people should know what they stand for and what they do and don't support but private citizens who donate money or people who helped campaign or raised money locally they should not be treated like this.

It'll make people think twice about getting involved in politics or supporting a candidate that bucks the mainstream talking points thats for sure. Thats the goal of course, stay in your place and keep quiet or we'll make life tough for you.

Maybe their name will be flagged when potential employers search them during the hiring process. Who knows?

You didn't read the article did you ?

weisses · 17-11-2020 11:35AM

biko wrote: »

So, revenge.

Do you honestly don't get it .. Our are you deliberately obtuse ?

Zubeneschamali · 17-11-2020 11:36AM

biko wrote: »

So, revenge.

It is simply a list of people whose CV you should check in case they forgot to include the fact that they willingly helped the worst American President in 100 years kill a half million* of your fellow citizens.

Why would anyone but another crook hire any of them?

(* not a half million yet, but it will be by Jan 21st)

jill_valentine · 17-11-2020 11:38AM

biko wrote: »

So, revenge.

If somebody has a demonstrable track record of abusing public office on that scale, it would be irresponsible to let them carry on doing it unhindered in future. Nobody has an inalienable right to act the prick, and accountability is a foundational necessity of public service; otherwise you get guys like Trump himself, so used to having free rein to loot the public purse and damage public institutions it'll take years just to rebuild what he's wrecked.

There is no good look in being complicit in this administration at this point, the point of plausible deniability is years gone. Anybody involved in the central racket of it should be considered irreparably compromised because they were, by definition, willing to enable a dangerous con man for their own benefit and to the cost of everyone else.

It's past time to keep coddling people who consider themselves untouchable, it only greenlights the ones coming after them. We know it does, we've seen what became of the post Nixon GOP.

WrenBoy · 17-11-2020 11:38AM

weisses wrote: »

You didn't read the article did you ?

No Im at work.

everlast75 · 17-11-2020 11:40AM

biko wrote: »

I hope it doesn't happen, it'd be a shame to start a war now.

There are a lot of "officials said" but no names. Are NYT protecting official sources?

That's what newspapers do.

What you will find however is that a lot of people won't stand up to trump, because he is an out and out bully. So they will leak stories, nothing more.

Ironically, it has mostly been women that have had the balls to stand up to him.

17-11-2020 11:48AM

WrenBoy wrote: »

No Im at work.

You had time to write a response a few paragraphs long to an article you didn't read, but you didn't have time to read the very short article itself?

BattleCorp · 17-11-2020 11:52AM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

It is simply a list of people whose CV you should check in case they forgot to include the fact that they willingly helped the worst American President in 100 years kill a half million* of your fellow citizens.

Why would anyone but another crook hire any of them?

(* not a half million yet, but it will be by Jan 21st)

Apologies but your post is a pile of sh1te.

I'm not a Trump fan by any means but your post is an outright lie. Trump didn't kill half a million of his fellow citizens. He didn't kill anybody.

He mismanaged the COVID-19 situation, but it's a complete exaggeration to say he killed anyone.

If you are against Trump, fine. I'm not a fan of his either but at least stick to truths.

ohnonotgmail · 17-11-2020 11:55AM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Apologies but your post is a pile of sh1te.

I'm not a Trump fan by any means but your post is an outright lie. Trump didn't kill half a million of his fellow citizens. He didn't kill anybody.

He mismanaged the COVID-19 situation, but it's a complete exaggeration to say he killed anyone.

If you are against Trump, fine. I'm not a fan of his either but at least stick to truths.

hw many people died after attending his rallies? You dont think he is directly responsible for holding those events and the consequences thereof?

BattleCorp · 17-11-2020 11:58AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

hw many people died after attending his rallies? You dont think he is directly responsible for holding those events and the consequences thereof?

Yes, the spread of COVID-19 accelerated because gobsh1tes didn't practice social distancing at his rallies. But equally COVID-19 accelerated becasue gobsh1tes didn't practice social distancing at BLM marches, in the stores, ah fcuk it, the Yanks didn't practice social distancing in a lot of places.

It's true to say that Trump's policies didn't do much to slow the spread of COVID-19, but it's a lie to say he killed anyone.

It's totally incorrect to say Trump killed people when he didn't. His policies didn't help, but he didn't kill anyone.

Carfacemandog · 17-11-2020 12:01PM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

As I said, nobody is asking this. It is an impossibility if they were fully legal and valid votes.

The post of mine you quoted literally has a link to people - Georgia's Republican secretary of state at that - saying exactly that, and naming names.

If you actually care about electoral integrity that will automatically be a huge concern to you. So... is it?

robinph · 17-11-2020 12:01PM

biko wrote: »

If crimes have been committed then regular process will kick in, or should have already kicked in.

“Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.” they all did crimes according to you?

Like the regular processes that triggered a recount of the Georgia results anyway, without needing Trump to start demanding that the count be stopped/ continue.
The regular processes of confirming the results which discovered the missing 2600 votes, without the need for Trump to file dozens of lawsuits about voting fraud with zero evidence.
The regular processes that found an issue with the vote for the local road sweeper* in some district in Georgia and has ordered a recount as there is 10 vote difference in it, without the need for Trump to be denying Biden access to daily briefings and funds for dealing with the transfer of power that he's entitled to.

Seems that the election processes are managing very well to resolve any of the exceedingly minor issues that have been found. No need for Trump to be claiming non-existent fraud two weeks on from losing the election result which isn't even close.

*May not have been for the road sweeper, but it certainly wasn't anything to do with the presidential votes that they found an issue with.

DrumSteve · 17-11-2020 12:03PM

biko wrote: »

So, revenge.

Here's an example for you:

Someone shitposts in one of the many, many forums you mod. You give them a 24hr ban.

You let them back in.

They shit post again.

You give them a week ban.

They come back. They Shitpost again and they get a permanent ban.

They go to the CMods and they say,"Biko has been too hard on me, I deserve to be let back in"

The CMods go to Biko and they say, "Hey, whats the craic with this lad? Why was he banned"

You say, "look at his post history, he's been given a load of chances. I'm adding him to the banned list"

The CMods say," Sure, go ahead. He's only going to do it again anyway".

ohnonotgmail · 17-11-2020 12:03PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Yes, the spread of COVID-19 accelerated because gobsh1tes didn't practice social distancing at his rallies. But equally COVID-19 accelerated becasue gobsh1tes didn't practice social distancing at BLM marches, in the stores, ah fcuk it, the Yanks didn't practice social distancing in a lot of places.

It's true to say that Trump's policies didn't do much to slow the spread of COVID-19, but it's a lie to say he killed anyone.

It's totally incorrect to say Trump killed people when he didn't. His policies didn't help, but he didn't kill anyone.

Trumps policies did nothing to stop the spread of covid. In fact, Trumps policies encouraged the spread of covid. He is directly responsible for his policies and he is directly responsible for the consequences of those policies.

Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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