Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

According to nphet there’s no evidence of a cluster related to people drinking in the streets as reported over the weekend.

growleaves wrote: »

I would feel better if the WHO chief did not say that the vaccine would "complement [restrictions], not replace them".

Who induced media and governments to use creepy phrases like "the new normal"?

well restrictions and mass vaccinations will overlap for at least several months. they can't come out and say it's party time, let loose lads just yet.

Deleted User wrote: »

Nope.
The nation has been oppressed to the point that people are drinking on the street in the middle of winter.

I wouldn’t call that whining.

Take away the remaining hope and people will be hanging in their living rooms.

it's telling that your example of oppression involves drinking.

Destiny Most Pancake wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/business/jobs/potential-job-loss-figure-doubles-in-less-than-a-year-39745158.html

It’s going to be absolute carnage when the full effects are felt.

It’s costing billions per months to keep the lights on and Brexit is weeks away.

Dan O Brien is advising to stockpile food!

https://mobile.twitter.com/danobrien20/status/1327984078658924546?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Thousands of redundancies, mountains of national debt!

The austerity measures won’t solve the healthcare issues that’s for sure

froog wrote: »

well restrictions and mass vaccinations will overlap for at least several months. they can't come out and say it's party time, let loose lads just yet.

I hope you're correct but then why don't then people in charge of 'messaging' give these reassurances?

They use weasely language which implies that the restrictions may be permanent but it is also vague enough to be deniable.

There is clearly a desperation among those in government and those in the media who provide cover for their policies to divert attention from the cases that are coming from workplaces, schools, nursing homes, hospitals, meat factories and other places in which people have no choice but to congregate indoors. These videos of people drinking are perfect for this purpose; notwithstanding the fact that groups of 3 and 4 standing outdoors is safer than just about any social activity that takes place indoors, this feeds into the idea that the crisis can be resolved by personal responsibility alone. This fits in generally with how those with power see most crises we face.

normanoffside wrote: »

As soon as I saw that posted on Sunday morning I knew it was going to be one of the main news stories of the week.
The Government and NPHET love to jump on some twitter outrage videos in order to distract people from the real issues.

When they drive people indoors there'll be no videos because snitches won't be able to post the videos.

They seem to be a weekly addition. Camera phones with social media are the worst thing to ever happen as they cause all this hysteria- government is now led by mob hysteria and “feelings” these days rather any actual policies on anything. A very dangerous place for society to be

froog wrote: »

we'll have multiple vaccines in literally a few months. the global economy is going to come roaring back. people acting like this is never going to end and we're living in a fascist police/NPHET state would want to grow up and stop whining to be honest.

You sound like you be just arrived into Ireland- our dear leader (unelected) Tony said only a few days ago that a vaccine maybe welcome but we still have “be cautious”. Anyone that thinks he and his cronies are going to just suddenly relinquish their power and privilege are clearly in a different country to the one I’ve been stuck in for the past 10 months

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

To be fair it’s time the economists got hysterical.

The attention seeking media loving medics on NPHET have had their time on stage being hysterical for months. They have refused to quench the fire despite Covid not having a 3% fatality rate as 1st assumed.

It’s getting serious now, and it’s going to take economic hysterics to dismantle Tony’s grip on the nation

So true. You have been saying this since I followed this thread. And the longer this goes on the worse that gets.
I’ve been trying to de-Covid 19 myself these days. Don’t watch RTE unless it’s on at my parents and generally reducing any Covid toxic Irish mainstream “journalism” as it’s akin to the USSR circa 1977 (Pravda) reading government dictats and assorted Covid brainwashing. There’s only so much of that ****e a sane, rational mind can take tbh.
That’s pretty much the one control I feel I have left, they can keep throwing out the crap but it will never get into my head and me onto their lunatic way of thinking

normanoffside wrote: »

As soon as I saw that posted on Sunday morning I knew it was going to be one of the main news stories of the week.
The Government and NPHET love to jump on some twitter outrage videos in order to distract people from the real issues.

When they drive people indoors there'll be no videos because snitches won't be able to post the videos.

Yep, no hysteria about how many in patients catch the virus in hospitals.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Sam Mconkey and all those that suggested Ireland would see 100k deaths from Covid are still getting airtime. As are the smoke and mirrors magicians in NPHET.

We all know it’s bolix but they still get airtime.

Time now for some to see the wood from the trees and hear what the worst case economic projections are.

Who will ever question them? All hand in glove with state funded media and government

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

Just had a bad row with my mother about restrictions. We got onto talking about the vaccines and she said she believes there should be lockdown after vaccine rollout in case 'covid comes back'. I, failing to understand what such a vague statement means asked that she elaborate on this but she couldn't.

I guess covid is like Michael Myers now it'll always come back. She's an intelligent woman as well, went to uni when very few people male or female did. I just find it upsetting what people have let this do to them.

You just can’t help the truly brainwashed. Best you can do is live your life. Don’t bring up Covid at all ever with her. Let it go. As you begin to live your lives again (hopefully soon for us all) she can come around to choosing to live too or she can let life pass her by, missing out on everything and all those occasions we’ve missed for the past year. I guarantee eventually she’ll want to rejoin the human race. But dont force the issue

Waylon Petite Shower wrote: »

The economy is not in near as bad a situation as some of those posting in this thread believe or would like others to believe. Especially now with a vaccine on the horizon and so on - as the other poster said we will power out of any mini-recession created by covid which let’s face it is only hitting certain sections of our economy.

Now that is not to belittle those that it is hitting at all, there is a lot of people going through hardship but it is only some people, there is a lot of money in people’s pockets and when we can safely get back to normal demand for everything will be there as it was early in 2020.

That’s serious head in the sand stuff.

“Some people”

10k redundancies up to October, thousands in hospitality and aviation out of work.

No industry will be safe. Just because the cuts are felt yet doesn’t mean it’s not coming.

“Power out of any mini recession”

I don’t know what to say to that