Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So why do the Republicans attack her every chance they get? Sounds like they are very afraid of her to me.

If you ain't afraid of AOC or the ideas of the green new deal, you'd be more then happy to have her speak to people you believe will not buy into her/their progressive plans..

https://youtu.be/Gt3FKNujzx8

I guess some are afraid..

A Texan phrase is an apt one in describing Trump.

"All Hat, No Cattle". He experienced a bull market in 70's/80's New York real estate and misinterpreted that for brains. Leveraged himself to the hilt with junk bonds and crashed and burned. No american financial lenders would touch him until his dad died and he was quids in again to repeat the leverage act. A real estate magnate who managed to not only survive but thrive after the implosion in 2008? I always thought it was suspicious.

What's always been interesting to me is that he called Angela Merkel stupid and accused her of being in the pocket of the Russians. Trump is adept at projecting. Trump Jr is on record saying that Russian money makes up a significant portion of their pre and post financial crisis business i.e. the affected US institutions wouldn't lend to us for development and it explained their defiant solvency. Crucially, the only bank who would touch Trump's toxic credit worthiness, Deutsche Bank, turned out to be one which got caught delibrrately laundering money for wealthy Russians. From the Panama Papers controversy a few years back, we learned how wealthy people used shell companies to hide assets and avoid domestic tax. If the father of David Cameron, can be au fait with such tax "avoision" then it's no stretch that a grifting Trump Organization would be as well. Trump, averse to losing, presumably welcomed foreign "investment".

It wouldn't surprise me if we ultimately learn that the Trump organization, actually beleaguered and floundered by the credit crunch, readily pawned itself to become a front for laundering money for wealthy Russian oligarchs to buy heavily depreciated Western properties. Given his recent obstinance then it's clear that he's not rational or forward thinking. It would be a quid pro quo arrangement. The money would be invested to buy up western properties. Hotels, Golf resorts etc. The ultimate beneficiary would be the Russian person in question while Trump get's to earn a lucrative branding and licensing fee to fund his “big hat" lifestyle, which in itself is a front as he get's to continue playing the successful role of a billionaire by pretending that his organization actually owns such assets. All speculation obviously but to me Trump in insulting Merkel was a glimpse into what may be his own reality and why he dreads losing the protection his current status affords him i.e. That he is deep in the pockets of the Russians and in his dotage he was projecting his situation and foisting it on another world leader in Merkel, who has a Phd and is most definitely not stupid. With such financial "kompromat", it can explain why he always kowtowed so egregiously to Putin and so aggressively fought (and fights) the release of his financial records as a subsequent forensic examination of them could well reveal the house of sand mechanics of his finances. The President of the United States compromised by criminal financial links to a geopolitical adversary. Perhaps to the tune of $421 million I think. The guff about electoral fraud is just the start, the grifting for funds presumably to stave off creditors in the above hypothesis. Once he's gone the lies about getting framed (and compromised) by deep state globalists will be next, how that money was only resting in his account...etc. The ssd part is many will latch onto it and refuse to see the admittedly simplistic high-level outline above.

Carfacemandog wrote: »

You missed the part where he drove an entire sports league out of business at the cost of $163mn, in order to get that $3.76.

It's up there with his finest achievements, such as bankrupting casinos and not being touched by any American bank for a long, long time.

Did you see the ESPN documentary about it? It's so funny when the interviewer shows Trump the actual cheque for $3.76 Trump gets in a hump and ends the interview. Such a man-baby.

cnocbui wrote: »

You are completely out of touch with reality:





The decline in Yemen is only because the killing of civillians responsibility was neatly handed off to the Saudis', so not dissimilar to his ploy of banning reporting of afghanistan air-strikes.

original links? This is not well know information.

humberklog wrote: »

I think the Republicans attack AOC in order to keep her in the news thinking that the US hasn't the appetite for her brand of politics.

I don't think they fear her, quite the opposite- she's useful to them to attempt to tarnish Dems as socialist firebrands.

There is the left and then there is the far left, she is really far left and does not seem to be very bright which makes her a problem if she ever gets into a real position of power. She was already talking about making lists of "Trump collaborators" like a good little authoritarian.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So why do the Republicans attack her every chance they get? Sounds like they are very afraid of her to me.

Maybe they are responding in kind to her wanting to set up revenge lists?

AOC:
"Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future"

“Yes, we are,” answered former Obama administration staffer Michael Simon, citing the Trump Accountability Project. “Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aoc-donald-trump-2020-election-b1652462.html

biko wrote: »

Maybe they are responding in kind to her wanting to set up revenge lists?

AOC:
"Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future"

“Yes, we are,” answered former Obama administration staffer Michael Simon, citing the Trump Accountability Project. “Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aoc-donald-trump-2020-election-b1652462.html

The word 'revenge' isn't mentioned in the article. That's your own twisting.

Tell me how wrote: »

'Revenge' list is your word.

Reasonable people see it as holding people to account.

'Revenge' and 'holding someone to account' could be conflated in certain circumstances, but I would say the difference is that the former is borne out of a personal grudge and the latter is about punishment for not following the rules. If Republicans want to back Trump in breaking every political norm, that should not go unpunished.

biko wrote: »

Maybe they are responding in kind to her wanting to set up revenge lists?

AOC:
"Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future"

“Yes, we are,” answered former Obama administration staffer Michael Simon, citing the Trump Accountability Project. “Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aoc-donald-trump-2020-election-b1652462.html

A very recent tweet, yet she's been the point of republican attacks since she got into congress..

She doesn't suffer fools easily, as was seen when she was lambasted on the steps of Congress being called a fcuking b!tch iirc?

When you can't win an argument, go for personal attacks.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1328370997125410817?s=20

but, but, but something something socialism, communism, Venezuela, death panels. Stephen Hawking was British he'd have been euthanised by universal healthcare.

Grab All Association wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1328370997125410817?s=20

but, but, but something something socialism, communism, Venezuela, death panels. Stephen Hawking was British he'd have been euthanised by universal healthcare.

I saw that tweet earlier.
Quite stunning isn't it in the USA in 2020 with everything going on as you say in terms of the conversation around socialism etc.

The Supreme Court have decided to not even listen to Trumps Pennsylvania case over absentee ballots - https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-11-16/supreme-court-declines-to-take-up-pennsylvania-absentee-ballot-case

It's been clear for at least a week that this was dead, but I think this puts him completely out of stalling efforts for Biden hitting 270? He can still scream like a child but PA was a bigger one at 29 EC seats, and after you run to the supreme Court you don't have anywhere else to go after as best I know.

Sorry on the phone, had meant to type 20.