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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Never seen him quote the same tweet in the space of 2mins.


    Did he ever build his wall in the end?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1328325695362256898

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1328325369267675141


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    biko wrote: »
    I guess without sources we'll never know.
    You guys aren't very good at backing up your statements. Hopefully one day that will change.
    The fact that drone strikes increase sharply under Trump until he stopped reporting on their figures. Here's a source for you https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

    Wouldn't it be better if they just continuously posted verifiably untrue nonsense and ran away when questioned on any of it, only to come back and post the same verifiably untrue nonsense all over a few weeks later. #bikomethod

    Looking forward to 4 years of you hypocritically and dishonestly pretending to care about drone strikes, accountability and transparency in government by the way. It's not like you've spent the last 4 completely f*cking your credibility on these issues or anything.


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    biko wrote: »

    Pulling out of the likes of Afghanistan too quickly results in military contractors taking over. So it's more like the conflict ends up privatised, it doesn't simply end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,591 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    RasTa wrote: »
    Did he ever build his wall in the end?

    Nope...well, he built a tiny section of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Nope...well, he built a tiny section of it.

    Didn't it fall over in the wind?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Didn't it fall over in the wind?

    yeah but it was a really strong wind. the bigliest wind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,053 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Here ya go.

    Unfiltered. No "media bias".

    Just who each is as a person.

    https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1328345686685970434?s=19

    One, whether you like him or not, behaving as a public representative should.

    The other, a petulant brute, a petty, small man desperate for approval.

    Tragic.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    How could you possibly believe this?

    Because it is true, Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president, then suddenly he was a white supremist, racist, Manchurian candidate :rolleyes:.

    I think you have all been fooled, I was too until I saw unedited footage, debunked lies and full quotes by him that were misrepresented by those who oppose him. It all became propaganda and not actual truth. Any time I hear the ill informed say he is a warmonger or a dictator I just pity them as it could not be future from the truth, Trump is one of the few presidents that is anti-war. A generation of people who just read headlines or get their news from twitter can not be a good thing.

    In the words of the big man himself "it is what it is." If you tell a lie enough it then becomes truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    swampgas wrote: »
    It's pretty unpleasant to use incorrect data about the deaths of civilians as something that can be used for cheap point-scoring.

    Isnt that what Biden did during the debate, using people that had died from covid as cheap point-scoring?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,053 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Because it is true, Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president, then suddenly he was a white supremist, racist, Manchurian candidate :rolleyes:.

    I think you have all been fooled, I was too until I saw unedited footage, debunked lies and full quotes by him that were misrepresented by those who oppose him. It all became propaganda and not actual truth. Any time I hear the ill informed say he is a warmonger or a dictator I just pity them as it could not be future from the truth, Trump is one of the few presidents that is anti-war. A generation of people who just read headlines or get their news from twitter can not be a good thing.

    In the words of the big man himself "it is what it is." If you tell a lie enough it then becomes truth.

    Hi OP - Your post isn't posted in the "ironic" font.

    You may want to fix that.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,826 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    "the China Plague".

    More than 5 million Chinese-Americans - I wonder how many votes he lost there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president

    Uhhhh No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Because it is true, Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president, then suddenly he was a white supremist, racist, Manchurian candidate :rolleyes:.

    I think you have all been fooled, I was too until I saw unedited footage, debunked lies and full quotes by him that were misrepresented by those who oppose him. It all became propaganda and not actual truth. Any time I hear the ill informed say he is a warmonger or a dictator I just pity them as it could not be future from the truth, Trump is one of the few presidents that is anti-war. A generation of people who just read headlines or get their news from twitter can not be a good thing.

    In the words of the big man himself "it is what it is." If you tell a lie enough it then becomes truth.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Because it is true, Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president, then suddenly he was a white supremist, racist, Manchurian candidate :rolleyes:.

    The bit in bold isn't true at all. He might have been on a popular TV show but New Yorkers, for example, had a very poor opinion of him well before the Presidential aspirations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    Isnt that what Biden did during the debate, using people that had died from covid as cheap point-scoring?

    If your opponent is responsible for a lot of them dying unnecessary It is not considered cheap point scoring .... I hope you understand this


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    Because it is true, Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president, then suddenly he was a white supremist, racist, Manchurian candidate :rolleyes:.


    Suddenly? The man has been sued for racial discrimination as early as the 70s.

    https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920/donald-trump-plagued-by-decades-old-housing-discrimination-case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,026 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    biko wrote: »
    I think his biggest presidential achievement is minimising killing people in foreign countries.
    But eternal war efforts will resume in 2021 under new management

    You are completely out of touch with reality:

    Obama-bombs.jpg

    Trump-bombs.jpg

    The decline in Yemen is only because the killing of civillians responsibility was neatly handed off to the Saudis', so not dissimilar to his ploy of banning reporting of afghanistan air-strikes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Good, responses with facts, albeit snarky comment, are welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    Because it is true, Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president, then suddenly he was a white supremist, racist, Manchurian candidate :rolleyes:.

    I think you have all been fooled, I was too until I saw unedited footage, debunked lies and full quotes by him that were misrepresented by those who oppose him. It all became propaganda and not actual truth. Any time I hear the ill informed say he is a warmonger or a dictator I just pity them as it could not be future from the truth, Trump is one of the few presidents that is anti-war. A generation of people who just read headlines or get their news from twitter can not be a good thing.

    In the words of the big man himself "it is what it is." If you tell a lie enough it then becomes truth.

    I always thought the guy was an asshole, seeing his behaviour when campaigning and during his time in power just re-enforced it. Don't think I've ever felt the need to call him a warmonger although his fairly prodigious use of drone strikes would not mark him out as the pacifist that many on the right seem to believe him to be. A dictator? Nah, he has the ego and his actions right now suggest someone who would override everything to hold on to power but the US seems to have too many checks and balances in place for this to ever actually happen.

    I haven't been fooled and I don't use Twitter as my main news source - the only time I'm ever on Twitter is to read directly what Trump has said. The guy has consistently stayed the same asshole that he always was.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    biko wrote: »
    Good, responses with facts, albeit snarky comment, are welcome.

    Right, but do you now see that your previous position that Trump was somehow a more peaceful POTUS than Obama is wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    Because it is true, Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president, then suddenly he was a white supremist, racist, Manchurian candidate :rolleyes:.

    I think you have all been fooled, I was too until I saw unedited footage, debunked lies and full quotes by him that were misrepresented by those who oppose him. It all became propaganda and not actual truth. Any time I hear the ill informed say he is a warmonger or a dictator I just pity them as it could not be future from the truth, Trump is one of the few presidents that is anti-war. A generation of people who just read headlines or get their news from twitter can not be a good thing.

    In the words of the big man himself "it is what it is." If you tell a lie enough it then becomes truth.

    Sweet cream on an ice-cream sandwich. You simply cannot be serious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Right, but do you now see that your previous position that Trump was somehow a more peaceful POTUS than Obama is wrong?

    That was not his position. His position was that it is funny to post nonsense and then force other posters to refute it with facts and references. The nonsense itself doesn't matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    I can remember US presidents going back as far as Reagan, both Republican and Democratic. No matter whether they were Republican or Democrat, I've never thought much of either side over the other until now. But Trump has succeeded in having the rest of the world look at US Republicans as a bunch of racist and stupid neanderthals. But then maybe this is the new normal, where they can be excused for being no different than Russians who support Putin, or Chinese who support the CCP; Maduro, Duterte followers etc.

    But where Trump, trumps them all is in his mastery of using social media to get around accountability. Fox News has fallen out of favour because they have the temerity to be able to question him, but he can say anything on Twitter and the most that will happen is a line saying this might be disputed.

    One thing for sure is that he has not succeeded with, nor could he "Make America Great Again".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    biko wrote: »
    I think his biggest presidential achievement is minimising killing people in foreign countries.
    But eternal war efforts will resume in 2021 under new management

    The only thing he minimised was the transparency and requirement to report on civilian deaths from US bombing abroad. Bombing and drone campaigns have increased under Trump but the transparency has disappeared and that's why you don't hear about. This has been explained numerous times on this and other threads and you Trump fans refuse to acknowledge it.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,457 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The Governor of Ohio at the weekend.
    “It’s clear that, certainly, based on what we know now, that Joe Biden is the president-elect. And that transition, for the country’s sake, it’s important for a normal transition to start through,” DeWine – a Republican like Trump – said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “And the president can go on his other track and his legal track. We should respect that, but we also need to begin that process.”

    Pretty fair and reasoned comment based on actual reality.

    How would a petulant man baby react to it I wonder?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1328349382023000064

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    biko wrote: »
    Good, responses with facts, albeit snarky comment, are welcome.

    Would you even recognise facts?


    Was that snarky enough for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,723 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    cnocbui wrote: »
    You are completely out of touch with reality:

    Obama-bombs.jpg

    Trump-bombs.jpg

    The decline in Yemen is only because the killing of civillians responsibility was neatly handed off to the Saudis', so not dissimilar to his ploy of banning reporting of afghanistan air-strikes.

    Can a mod sticky this post at the top of the thread please?

    I'm sure it's getting really tiresome for people who have to go fetch it every time some Trump worshipper posts the same lie about his lack of drone strikes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Because it is true, Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president, then suddenly he was a white supremist, racist, Manchurian candidate :rolleyes:.

    In the 1980s, Sesame Street based a villain on him.

    Can you imagine how disliked somebody would have to be to make an enemy of Sesame Street?!?


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