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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    Youd want to put some grease on that bearing, the wheel is overheating from spinning that much.

    Biden asking for donations is just as griftery and bad as trump, end of

    Yeah, Biden's also funneling campaign donations into his private businesses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    Yeah, Biden's also funneling campaign donations into his private businesses.

    Don't forget he got Hunter a few new laptops as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    They're as bad as each other

    This sort of narrative is particularly dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    They're as bad as each other

    Really? Could you imagine Biden carrying on as Trump is now if he lost the election?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,418 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Im always impressed at how the usual response to a post criticising both camps of supporters is to spin the wheel of ‘bad things trump did’ and bring it in randomly to suggest the criticism of biden supporters is unfair.

    “Both are grifters”
    “But...”<spins wheel>“Trump put kids in cages”
    Is not the checkmate you want it to be

    "billionaire" donald trump asking for donations for frivolous lawsuits and also pay down his campaign costs is griftery. Charging $80 for a bottle of water to his own government to use his premises is griftery.

    I would not call Biden and the DNC asking for donations for his campaign and challenge the lawsuits griftery. Biden has a modest amount of wealth, but nowhere near what is required to run for office in the states. Every party in the world does this, from FG to SF to PBP to Labour and the Tories.

    He purposely separated children from their parents, 500 kids are now without parents because of an order he pushed. He is a sh*t.

    I'm sure there will be scandals and incompetence during Biden's term, but none of it will plunge to the depths and depravity that trump has managed to sink, it has not been a good administration, it has done very little to make america great, or drive jobs of it's own accord, it has run up gigantic debts that will hobble future DNC or GOP presidents, it's another 2 weeks later, and still no health plan and the idiot in chief is in hiding, it's indefensible.

    Saying "well Biden might" also does nothing. I don't see how any rational intelligent person can defend his administration regardless if you're left or right leaning, because trump doesn't lean either way but whatever keeps him in power and earns him an extra $ (even his religious "leanings" are about grifting people).


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Im always impressed at how the usual response to a post criticising both camps of supporters is to spin the wheel of ‘bad things trump did’ and bring it in randomly to suggest the criticism of biden supporters is unfair.

    “Both are grifters”
    “But...”<spins wheel>“Trump put kids in cages”
    Is not the checkmate you want it to be

    You are trying to compare the fact that Trumps claims of election fraud which are entirely baseless and have absolutely no evidence to support them, so he's asking for money to try to invent some fraud...which would itself be fraud of course.

    And then trying to claim that Biden trying to raise money to ensure that the fraudulent cases of claims of fraud do not have any success in the courts is the same thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭omega man


    Looks like Trump’s campaign is dropping legal claims in PA that observers were blocked from viewing vote-counting. His base won’t be happy.
    Less and less straws to clutch lately!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    omega man wrote: »
    Looks like Trump’s campaign is dropping legal claims in PA that observers were blocked from viewing vote-counting. His base won’t be happy.
    Less and less straws to clutch lately!

    Trump dropping them or a judge is dropping them? the judge in michigan threw out a case on observers as well because the GOP observers didnt understand how it was supposed to work,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Trump dropping them or a judge is dropping them? the judge in michigan threw out a case on observers as well because the GOP observers didnt understand how it was supposed to work,

    The former

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/16/trump-campaign-abandons-part-of-legal-challenge-to-pennsylvania-election-results?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,034 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Trump dropping them or a judge is dropping them? the judge in michigan threw out a case on observers as well because the GOP observers didnt understand how it was supposed to work,

    It seems to me that to the 'stop the steal' crowd, the only level of observation that would have been good enough would have been to stand right behind counters, and be able to inspect/confiscate without due process any ballot they deemed to look suspect, i.e.

    "Hmmmm, Wilma Rogerstone from Erie, PA voted for Biden/Harris. I don't like the look of this postmark. Better send it to the lab (dump). Let's look at another. It's a mail-in ballot for Trump/Pence from a Mr.... a Mr. Recip Erdogan from Ankara, Turkey. Wow, I didn't know you could vote from there. Learn something new every day...."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    astrofool wrote: »
    "billionaire" donald trump asking for donations for frivolous lawsuits and also pay down his campaign costs is griftery. Charging $80 for a bottle of water to his own government to use his premises is griftery.

    I would not call Biden and the DNC asking for donations for his campaign and challenge the lawsuits griftery. Biden has a modest amount of wealth, but nowhere near what is required to run for office in the states. Every party in the world does this, from FG to SF to PBP to Labour and the Tories.

    He purposely separated children from their parents, 500 kids are now without parents because of an order he pushed. He is a sh*t.

    I'm sure there will be scandals and incompetence during Biden's term, but none of it will plunge to the depths and depravity that trump has managed to sink, it has not been a good administration, it has done very little to make america great, or drive jobs of it's own accord, it has run up gigantic debts that will hobble future DNC or GOP presidents, it's another 2 weeks later, and still no health plan and the idiot in chief is in hiding, it's indefensible.

    Saying "well Biden might" also does nothing. I don't see how any rational intelligent person can defend his administration regardless if you're left or right leaning, because trump doesn't lean either way but whatever keeps him in power and earns him an extra $ (even his religious "leanings" are about grifting people).

    “Depravity” “orange idiot” , calm down. He’s going in january, youll be back to war and children will continue to be put in obamas cages in no time.

    Trump did a great job as president and your anger over him only proves it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    “Depravity” “orange idiot” , calm down. He’s going in january, youll be back to war and children will continue to be put in obamas cages in no time.

    Trump did a great job as president and your anger over him only proves it.

    lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    “Depravity” “orange idiot” , calm down. He’s going in january, youll be back to war and children will continue to be put in obamas cages in no time.

    Trump did a great job as president and your anger over him only proves it.

    tenor.gif?itemid=7533716


    The Guy robbing your home did a great job .... You being pissed of about it proves this


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Trump did a great job as president and your anger over him only proves it.

    So his greatest precidentedial achievement is to piss people off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,053 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    robinph wrote: »
    So his greatest precidentedial achievement is to piss people off?

    *Only achievement

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,034 ✭✭✭✭briany




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    everlast75 wrote: »
    *Only achievement

    He has caused the creation of a few new words and phrases, although not as claimed by him the term "fake news" which he definitely didn't invent.

    Coffeve
    Alternative facts
    Unpresidented
    ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    robinph wrote: »
    So his greatest precidentedial achievement is to piss people off?

    No, no, the poster is "one of them" so to have pissed off "them" is the great achievement and backs up the validation that Cartman is right (in Believing Trump is 'good').


    The peppering of the post with passive aggressive comments backs this up, because trying to get a rise out of "The other side" is another form of self validation.


    Its this sort of Us vs Them BS that really needs to stop. Its not helping anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    robinph wrote: »
    So his greatest precidentedial achievement is to piss people off?
    I think his biggest presidential achievement is minimising killing people in foreign countries.
    But eternal war efforts will resume in 2021 under new management


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,418 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    “Depravity” “orange idiot” , calm down. He’s going in january, youll be back to war and children will continue to be put in obamas cages in no time.

    Trump did a great job as president and your anger over him only proves it.

    You're the one who's going to have to live with themselves for supporting a guy who advocated separating children from their parents. I'd see myself as fairly centre to right leaning, but by any metric other than judges, trump has not been a great president.

    And just think that this is what is coming out when he's president, the real sh*t show will be when all his aides abandon him and the inner workings of the administration are laid bare. Again, anyone with an ounce of sense and unblinkered view can see this playing out, the "I didn't really know how much of a sh*t he was" won't cut it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,418 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    biko wrote: »
    I think his biggest presidential achievement is minimising killing people in foreign countries.
    But eternal war efforts will resume in 2021 under new management

    Of course mostly achieved by not reporting the deaths anymore, am I right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    biko wrote: »
    I think his biggest presidential achievement is minimising killing people in foreign countries.
    But eternal war efforts will resume in 2021 under new management

    Hadn't Trump dropped more bombs and used more drones than Obama right up to the point Trumps team decided to stop reporting on it.

    Trump wasn't peaceful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭Sparko


    omega man wrote: »
    Looks like Trump’s campaign is dropping legal claims in PA that observers were blocked from viewing vote-counting. His base won’t be happy.
    Less and less straws to clutch lately!

    Won't stop him stating that it categorically happened though, I guess all the judges are in on it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Biden was propped up by the American media big time and his only redeemable feature was he was not Trump in the eyes of many Americans, It will be interesting to see what happens and if the next president is republican how this new style echo chamber media will try to paint the new guy as the Devil when I am sure like Trump he will just be a person that wants the best for their country.

    533050.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    biko wrote: »
    I think his biggest presidential achievement is minimising killing people in foreign countries.
    But eternal war efforts will resume in 2021 under new management

    so all his drone strikes were dropping flowers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    astrofool wrote: »
    Of course mostly achieved by not reporting the deaths anymore, am I right?

    It is the same logic as saying that increasing covid testing increases covid cases. They seem happier to live in ignorance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Biden was propped up by the American media big time and his only redeemable feature was he was not Trump in the eyes of many Americans, It will be interesting to see what happens and if the next president is republican how this new style echo chamber media will try to paint the new guy as the Devil when I am sure like Trump he will just be a person that wants the best for their country.

    533050.jpg
    Fox News propping up Biden ffs :pac:

    I'd love to know where you found this picture


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    biko wrote: »
    I think his biggest presidential achievement is minimising killing people in foreign countries.
    But eternal war efforts will resume in 2021 under new management

    What you think is irrelevant when facts says otherwise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    astrofool wrote: »
    Of course mostly achieved by not reporting the deaths anymore, am I right?
    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Hadn't Trump dropped more bombs and used more drones than Obama right up to the point Trumps team decided to stop reporting on it.
    Trump wasn't peaceful.
    weisses wrote: »
    What you think is irrelevant when facts says otherwise
    I guess without sources we'll never know.
    You guys aren't very good at backing up your statements. Hopefully one day that will change.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    Fox News propping up Biden ffs :pac:

    I'd love to know where you found this picture

    Alt.Fans.TrumpIsGreat*



    * one for the oldies there.


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