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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • #2852
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    I bet Tony & Co already know what their recommendations will be

    Well they sounded relatively optimistic tonight but need the data for next 2 weeks. Plus issue of anticipatory behaviour and all that.


  • #2853
    440Hertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭440Hertz


    We need to recognise the rather unique situation Donegal is in. It’s quite different from the other border counties as it’s quite literally bordering the 4th largest city on the island after Dublin, Belfast and Cork. It’s a very significant urban area and East Donegal is intrinsically linked to it and is remote from anywhere else.

    That’s quite different to any of the other border counties, which are not really connected to major urban centres.

    Donegal to Derry city’s relationship is a bit like West Cork to Cork City.

    It’s going to take some serious coordination and sensible policies in Northern Ireland, but in their absence, Donegal is just going to keep becoming infected, so I suspect the only solution is going to be a extra measures in Donegal until we’ve vaccines.


  • #2854
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    First George Lee now McConkey on the six one

    FFS this will be fun

    Could one expect any less from scaremonger HQ. Deliberately brought out to defuse optimism, even a blind man would find the ruse transparent. And a simple solution for me there is immediately switching from RTE to the Masters golf. Voila, no more McDonkey courting the limelight.


  • #2855
    manutd2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭manutd2007


    saying people wont come home for christmas, yeah right ffs


  • #2856
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    manutd2007 wrote: »
    saying people wont come home for christmas, yeah right ffs

    He just said that even if people quarantined for two weeks after travelling that thats not an option?


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  • #2857
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Stheno wrote: »
    He just said that even if people quarantined for two weeks after travelling that thats not an option?

    We need a proper quarantine system. What we have is people coming home and staying with families. That's not quarantine in any real way.

    People can come home and follow the rules under the EU traffic light system but let's be honest it's high risk for this country.


  • #2858
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    manutd2007 wrote: »
    saying people wont come home for christmas, yeah right ffs

    A lot of people from my home village are abroad and of the ones I know that's further away than the uk/eu, there's no one coming home.


  • #2859
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    We need a proper quarantine system. What we have is people coming home and staying with families. That's not quarantine in any real way.

    People can come home and follow the rules under the EU traffic light system but let's be honest it's high risk for this country.

    Agree its risky but saying that even if people follow the guidelines that they should not travel is a bit dogmatic tbh


  • #2860
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Paul Cullen :D caught Tony out hahaha


  • #2861
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,212 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Paul Cullen is always trying to get Tony's back up.


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  • #2862
    Stheno
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Paul Cullen :D caught Tony out hahaha

    Tony is losing his cool with Paul


  • #2863
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    County cases per day average over the last two weeks.


    Dublin 141
    Cork 47
    Donegal 32
    Limerick 28
    Meath 23
    Galway 18
    Louth 15
    Kildare 15
    Kerry 14
    Mayo 14
    Tipperary 13
    Westmeath 11
    Waterford 10
    Laois 9
    Kilkenny 9
    Clare 9
    Roscommon 8
    Wicklow 7
    Sligo 7
    Cavan 6
    Offaly 6
    Wexford 5
    Monaghan 5
    Carlow 4
    Longford 4
    Leitrim 1


  • #2864
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Stheno wrote: »
    Tony is losing his cool with Paul
    The first question was a fair point but he lost it after that


  • #2865
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,212 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The look Nolan gave him there.

    Miaow.


  • #2866
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    owlbethere wrote: »
    A lot of people from my home village are abroad and of the ones I know that's further away than the uk/eu, there's no one coming home.

    I have two abroad and neither coming home . Both had planned to but just wont risk it
    Next year will be fabulous when we have a vaccine and we will look forward to that .
    My parents in law lived through a dreadful war and five years of hell so I think we can manage this


  • #2867
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    He's not wrong about Northern Ireland, let's be honest.


  • #2868
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    I like Philip Nolan


  • #2869
    Grueller Baby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭Grueller Baby


    I hope all this messing around by Tony and Mehole doesn't prevent people from coming home and spending Christmas with their families.

    People have sacrificed enough at this stage, lost time spent with loved ones cannot be replaced. C'mon away home I say.


  • #2870
    Stheno
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    He's not wrong about Northern Ireland, let's be honest.

    Yep. Tony actually said they are making great progress up there!


  • #2871
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    He's not wrong about Northern Ireland, let's be honest.

    Agreed. If we could close the border and get away with it we would. It would be a political hot potato of the worse degree.


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  • #2872
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    It's safer for people to come home from most European countries rather than crossing the border to the North at the moment.


  • #2873
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,212 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Paul Cullen's articles in the Times are always quite fair and balanced, but he always comes across as a passive aggressive inquisitor in these briefings.


  • #2874
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Stheno wrote: »
    Tony is losing his cool with Paul

    What was said? I’ve missed the presser


  • #2875
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Arghus wrote: »
    Paul Cullen's articles in the Times are always quite fair and balanced, but he always comes across as a passive aggressive inquisitor in these briefings.

    I think that's why he comes across as he does, he specialises in reporting on health rather than more general journalists tbh


  • #2876
    [Deleted User]
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    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Either way, there can be no planning anymore, cos you don't know what country will be green/amber/red/whatever ahead of time.

    Plus the cost of PCR ... ~ €150 per person, good luck with a family of 4.

    Nah, it's done, I'll be lucky to get home in the next decade, allready accepted the fact ill never see my parents again and won't be able to go to their funerals.


    All for a virus with an IFR of ~ 0.2% ...


    NUTS!

    0.1185% of the population of Belgium have already died


  • #2877
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,212 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    What was said? I’ve missed the presser

    Paul Cullen, from The Irish Times, was following on from Tony's earlier responses about the danger of international travel and contrasting that with his apparent reluctance to say much about the risks posed by people travelling from Northern Ireland.

    "You don't have a bad word to say about Belfast, but you'll everywhere else..."

    Tony got a bit testy. For a bit.


  • #2878
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Arghus wrote: »
    Paul Cullen, from The Irish Times, was following on from Tony's earlier responses about the danger of international travel and contrasting that with his apparent reluctance to say much about the risks posed by people travelling from Northern Ireland.

    "You don't have a bad word to say about Belfast, but you'll everywhere else..."

    Tony got a bit testy. For a bit.

    After Paul wound him up by asking ws travel from Finland ok


  • #2879
    DOCARCH
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    0.1185% of the population of Belgium have already died

    And 0.1237% of the population of San Marino!


  • #2880
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,212 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Stheno wrote: »
    I think that's why he comes across as he does, he specialises in reporting on health rather than more general journalists tbh

    He's definitely more on top of the brief and asked more informed and pointed questions, but he has this manner of asking questions which is always advisarial, like he wants people to trip up on purpose and he always - always - trails off and leaves the end of his question hanging - hence why I think he comes across as passive aggressive.


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  • #2881
    Stheno
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    Arghus wrote: »
    He's definitely more on top of the brief and asked more informed and pointed questions, but he has this manner of asking questions which is always advisarial, like he wants people to trip up on purpose and he always - always - trails off and leaves the end of his question hanging - hence why I think he comes across as passive aggressive.

    I actually think its a complete personality clash between himself and Tony, he was much more cordial with Roland Glynn and even Professor Nolan this evening when he asked him how he could be confident level five was needed

    Look at the difference in how Nolan responded compared to Tony, he acknowledged it was a reasonable question and gave some detail

    Soon as Paul asked the Finland question, Tony got mad and responded angeily


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