Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

cnocbui wrote: »

I'm an Australian and my experience has been the country has always been a far better place and done better when it has had left wing governments, the Hawk and Keating governments in the 80's in particular. It was the left wing government of Kevin Rudd which used helicopter money to stave off the GFC, and it worked. Left wing governements gave Australia one of the absolute best health care systems in the world, and one of the best superannuation systems of compulsory retirement savings. The right wing government of Howard introduced a GST (VAT) and allowed foregn companies to gain control and almost all the benefit from Australia's mineral resources.

A left wing government introduced free tertiary eduction and it changed the country. Then a right wing government abolished it and copied the disasterous American model of education as a business.

The right wing governments powered by neo-con policies, sold off state assets to the wealth classes leading to the country now having some of the most expensive electricity in the world. I really could go on and on about the financial evils perpetrated by Australian right wing governments.

New Zealand has a left wing government lead by Jacinda Ardern, one of the most admired world leaders today.

The UK only has the NHS because of a left wing government. How's it's current right wing government doing? Highest number of covid deaths in Europe, Brexit and dire financial consequences predicted by the Bank of England.

Yeah, but...something, something, socialism...

storker wrote: »

As Bob Geldof said to those Trinity students, "There are people out there who haven't had a pay rise in ten years and you guys are in here banging on about transgender toilets."

There are people without transgendered toilets and you are on here bangin on about millionaire musicians!

Cordell wrote: »

The thing is, the american left

There's no such thing.

schmittel wrote: »

I agree he clearly did know who Duke was. He blamed it on a dodgy earpiece, but I suspect that is nonsense.

I suspect the truth is instinctively he believed it was not a good idea in an election which every would count, to start saying I don't want peoples votes.

So he courted the vote of Neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

Grand so.

Yet again project Veritas prove themselves to be nothing but liars on the whistleblower story. Still won't stop the usual suspects on here from trying to champion whatever their next batch of lies are, though.

As I said was obvious yesterday, much like Tara Reade, when this person became aware of the legal implications of lying to investigators and making false reports they immediately changed their story. Reade refused to name biden specifically to investigators while happily doing so on TV, while this eejit is happy to peddle lies on YouTube but outright recanted them to investigators... and stated they weren't even his own allegations, but those of PV who wrote the fecking thing for him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-hopkins-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/11/c9b70eda-2470-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html

In an interview this week with federal agents, a Pennsylvania postal worker walked back his allegation that a supervisor had tampered with mailed ballots, saying he had made “assumptions” based on overheard snippets of conversation, according to an audio recording of the interview posted online Wednesday by activists who have championed his cause.

The two-hour recording shows that Richard Hopkins recanted claims he had made in a sworn affidavit that top Republicans cited over the weekend as potential evidence of widespread election irregularities and fraud.

Hopkins told federal investigators on Monday his allegations were based on fragments of conversation among co-workers in a noisy mail facility in Erie, Pa., according to the recording.

When an agent from the U.S. Postal Service Office of Inspector General asked Hopkins if he stood by his sworn statement that a supervisor “was backdating ballots” mailed after Election Day, Hopkins answered: “At this point? No.”

He also agreed to sign a revised statement that undercut his earlier affidavit.

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During the recorded interview, however, federal agents repeatedly reminded Hopkins that his cooperation was voluntary, and Hopkins agreed to sign a document stating that he was not coerced.

Asked by an agent whether he had legal representation, Hopkins said Project Veritas had a lawyer on retention “in case there’s anything that happens.” The agent told Hopkins that if he had a personal lawyer, “I would make whatever efforts possible to have that person here.” Hopkins said he didn’t have a lawyer.

Hopkins also repeatedly expressed regret for signing the initial affidavit because it overstated what he knew and witnessed, according to the recording.

He told agents the affidavit was written by Project Veritas.

He said he was not fully aware of its contents because he was in “so much shock I wasn’t paying that much attention to what they were telling me.

He is gone absolutely mental with the retweets this afternoon!

innuendo141 wrote: »

He is gone absolutely mental with the retweets this afternoon!

Some of which are tweets denouncing Fox News and saying 'Newsmax' is the place to go to for news now.

Tell me how wrote: »

Some of which are tweets denouncing Fox News and saying 'Newsmax' is the place to go to for news now.

Quotes of people with around 100 followers. The bottom of the barrel is long out of sight now.

Quin_Dub wrote: »

And almost all of them are people dumping on Fox and/or bigging up NewsMax and OANN.

He is so utterly transparent - This is part of the journey to his own Network.

Sh!t all over Fox and split the "Conservative" audience making it easier for him to pick off the smaller guys when he launches his own channel.

He'll never get funding for his own network now surely?

If he were to launch it, surely it would be an advertisement wasteland in terms of the big hitters. Would top brands attach themselves to something would likely be the definition of fake news and conspiracy theories?

schmittel wrote: »

Purely politically motivated, rather than racially, I would think. That he did it to curry favour and build support within the Republican party would make more sense to me than to he did it to promote his white supremacist credentials.

It seems to me, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you're saying isn't actually racist he just does and says racist things because they benefit him.

Is that a fair comment?

Trump couldn't be a card carrying KKK member as far as I know since he hangs out with Jews, his daughter and son in law.

Now we know his daddy was linked to KKK.

The whole Trump phenomena is a collection of once unbelievable and often incompatible beliefs and mindsets at play.

He has managed to gain support from groups that would actually have detested his very existence and in no way supported him in the not so distant past.

For instance how has he managed to gain and keep the support of the religious right, the evangelicals, in the US?
This is a guy that has numerous marriages, numerous illicit public affairs, was recorded making hugely disparaging sexist remarks about women, hung out with dodgy types and yet they ignore his whole relationship history.

FFS some of the religious right looked down on Reagan because he was divorced even though it happened decades before he ran for president.
The likes of Gary Hart had his Democrat presidential nomination ruined just because of rumours of affairs.

Yet they seem to love Trump?

There is also belief now that it is right wing catholics that are supporting him more than right wing evangelicals, but that doesn't explain the voters in middle America.

Then you have the love in from definite white supremacists, the KKK types.
These types seem to totally ignore his Jewish relations.

I find the whole thing as baffling as how come there are certain groups who support right wing ideologically incompatible belief systems.

Boggles wrote: »

Listen I understand.

You are a fan of the artificially tanned one.

If he starts a channel, you can subscribe.

24/7 Donny!

Actually it could be a bit like Howard Stern.
More people who disliked tuned in just to see how low he would go, as opposed to those who liked him and wanted to actual listen to him.