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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    Well said.

    I think Trump is being undignified and embarrassing but I’m actually very, very okay with recounts happening and challenges being heard by courts. Let him. And let him and his most ardent followers whinge when they fail. Bring it, I say.

    Agreed. But we all know it won't satisfy them in any way. Nothing will change their mind that the election was stolen. That is the sad part. We are dealing with children.

    America as an institution is in big trouble and that is bad news for all of us. European countries be warned. We can't let it happen here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »
    The warhogs in the establishment (democrats /republicans) must be thrilled about this band getting back together. I'm not talking about one party here, I'm on about the US invading other countries under the guise of being the police force of the world and profiting from it.

    Undeniably Trump has his flaws but a lot of people who hate him so much and voted against him rather than voting FOR Harris/Biden may look back fondly at 4 years without thousands of US troops losing their lives at the expense of millions of civilians in the Middle East or elsewhere.

    What imaginary war is this you are dreaming of? There is no one to fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    briany wrote: »
    I don't think it's fair to say that everyone who voted for Donald Trump, and then some, is at the exact same level of unreasonable and crazy. Some may be dyed-in-the-wool conservatives, some may like that he's not a conventional politician, some may like his promises not to take the US into any new foreign wars. Each group, or some of them, could like those things and still admit to the man being less than perfect.

    We tend to focus on the ones out in the street who are strapped up and carrying 'stop the steal' signs as being representative of Trump's voting demographic. It was at least heartening to see that poll which found that 80 percent polled believed Biden to be the rightful winner.

    However, if even half of Trump's 2020 voting base believes all the cr@p being thrown around, that's still a huge, huge number of people and very worrying for the US, going forward.

    Well those people need to start saying something because they have to be the most underrepresented group in the US right now. Is Romney still the only Republican to call him out? And he was doing so before the election as well and likely isn't part of the Trump voters. Any who voted for him but don't agree with his current actions are unrepresented and their votes are being used to represent the extremists in the party.

    The rest seem happy enough to let it go on and watch as US democracy is being disgraced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭bewareofthedog


    OANN should have their broadcasting rights removed, they are the gateway pundit on steroids. It's pure propaganda


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Fuzzyduzzy


    What imaginary war is this you are dreaming of? There is no one to fight.

    You are right, there is no one right now to fight. The End.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    What imaginary war is this you are dreaming of? There is no one to fight.

    Plus - going to war is now a Democrat thing? I know some Iraqis that want to have a word..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Lirange


    For those concerned about a coup through the electoral college/Supreme Court/Congress:

    https://verdict.justia.com/2020/09/30/no-republicans-cannot-throw-the-presidential-election-into-the-house-so-that-trump-wins

    Incredibly this was published in Sept.

    He will make a spectacle of himself, as usual, and consequently those in his party who spinelessly continue to support his delusions. However it will all come to nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    As night follows day, there's always a tweet

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/805486509914779649?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Don't you just hate the way certain campaigns claim victory off the back of media calling races. It's absolutely ridiculous. Trump is right, the media can't call races..........oh:

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭Randle P. McMurphy


    sabat wrote: »
    He has had virtually unlimited power for 4 years now-can you give an example of what he's done to bring about this fascist state? Obama for example created the concept of a kill list-his "disposition matrix" of Americans citizens he could personally act as judge and executioner on. Did Trump do anything like that?


    I never said anything about a fascist state I’m referring to his methods of gaining power and his attempt to hang on to it. The rallies where he whips the crowd in to a frenzy with militant nationalism. The demonisation of immigrants as rapists and murderers. his political opponents as crooked and corrupt who should be locked up, attacking the free press as enemies of the people He appealed to the prejudices and basest nature of people to win an election. Now that he has lost the recent election he is refusing to concede and showing a total disregard for the democratic process. Which is why people should be very worried by his sacking of the Secretary of Defense and the purging of the civil heads in the Pentagon. When he only has two months left as President it serves no legitimate purpose. Some people call him names and think he’s just a clown and see all his shenanigans as all a big joke and great entertainment. It’s no laughing matter. They used to laugh and sneer at the little corporal with the silly moustache too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    py2006 wrote: »
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    Very good. Even more hilarious though is that the only cases of confirmed fraud in this election to date have been perpetrated by Republicans. There was that guy in Pennsylvania (a registered Republican) who applied for an absentee ballot for his dead mother and then the fake drop off ballot boxes set up in California by the local GOP hacks.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wnep.com/amp/article/news/local/luzerne-county/man-arrested-for-voter-fraud-in-luzerne-county/523-7fc4fd2f-9105-47e7-a510-2b5ff176ab2c

    https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/10/15/schwarzenegger-california-republicans-off-the-rails-with-fake-ballot-boxes-9424470


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,043 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Very good. Even more hilarious though is that the only cases of confirmed fraud in this election to date have been perpetrated by Republicans.

    Here's the chap who invented email, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

    https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Here's an MIT professor, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

    https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20

    Were they Trump votes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    py2006 wrote: »
    124990538_10159171239416934_2179412837875862914_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=sAX98U0XcREAX9h54Xj&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=2d1351f994728618c02655a7b91ef616&oe=5FD12DFB


    Brilliant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Here's an MIT professor, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

    https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20

    Still not enough to change the results, still a minimum of 10k behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,043 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Were they Trump votes?

    I didn't watch the video it's over an hour long, he'd be on Trump's side so I'm assuming so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,634 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Here's an MIT professor, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

    https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20

    I should have guessed but here's Wikipedia:-
    V. A. Shiva Ayyadurai (born Vellayappa Ayyadurai Shiva,[2] December 2, 1963)[3] is an Indian-American scientist, engineer, politician, entrepreneur, and promoter of conspiracy theories and unfounded medical claims. He is notable for his widely discredited claim to be the "inventor of email",[4] based on the electronic mail software called "EMAIL" he wrote as a New Jersey high school student in the late 1970s.[5][6] Initial reports that repeated Ayyadurai's assertion—from organizations such as The Washington Post and the Smithsonian Institution—were followed by public retractions.[5][7] These corrections were triggered by objections from historians and ARPANET pioneers who pointed out that email was already actively used in the early 1970s.[3]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,476 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Here's an MIT professor, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

    https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20

    He invented E-Mail?

    We will stop there so. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Here's an MIT professor, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

    https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20

    This clown has form. A fact check article from Reuters in early October:

    "Social media users are sharing a post from Massachusetts Senate contender Dr Shiva Ayyadurai, which says Massachusetts destroyed over 1 million ballots in the U.S. Senate primary race that he lost and therefore committed election fraud. This claim is false: a spokesperson for the Secretary of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts told Reuters that no ballots have been destroyed. Election law experts from MIT and Harvard Law School also said there is no legal obligation for the state to keep ballot images and therefore the allegation of fraud in these posts is not credible."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Here's an MIT professor, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

    https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20

    Also, can you provide evidence that he is an MIT professor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Also, can you provide evidence that he is an MIT professor?

    he doesn't appear on the faculty list https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/faculty-directory#name:a

    his twitter bio says MIT PhD and he does have a PhD in Biological Engineering. Not quite sure how that translates to exposing fraud in elections


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Here's an MIT professor, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

    https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20

    he is not an MIT professor


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    None of this will change anything. Trump knows that. Of course he does

    He is just playing a role that is expected....keeping his base nice and lively. I would guess that over the next 4 years he will run a ‘shadow government’.....making appearances to his voter base, undermining Biden at every turn, pressuring the GOP who clearly don’t know how to deal with him and his supporters. He is a dangerous man who will spread fake news and try to influence things as much as he can


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    Here's an MIT professor, he doesn't use the world fraud. Reckons 69,000 votes in michigan swung..

    https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/1326595796947656716?s=20

    "V. A. Shiva Ayyadurai is an Indian-American scientist, engineer, politician, entrepreneur, and promoter of conspiracy theories and unfounded medical claims."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai

    Stopped reading (and caring) there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    I didn't watch the video it's over an hour long, he'd be on Trump's side so I'm assuming so.

    So you didn't watch the video AND he's not an MIT professor?

    Can we get boards to issue fact check warnings on posts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I didn't watch the video it's over an hour long, he'd be on Trump's side so I'm assuming so.

    You put up a link to a video you haven't even watched? what value do you think that adds to the discussion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    he doesn't appear on the faculty list https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/faculty-directory#name:a

    his twitter bio says MIT PhD and he does have a PhD in Biological Engineering. Not quite sure how that translates to exposing fraud in elections


    He’s not an MIT professor so either drunkmonkey is lying or saw MIT in the Twitter handle (of whatever the word is) and is to ignorant to know what a professor actually is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    He’s not an MIT professor so either drunkmonkey is lying or saw MIT in the Twitter handle (of whatever the word is) and is to ignorant to know what a professor actually is.

    weirdly the guy himself doesn't even claim to be an MIT Professor. DrunkMonkey just made that up.


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  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    He’s not an MIT professor so either drunkmonkey is lying or saw MIT in the Twitter handle (of whatever the word is) and is to ignorant to know what a professor actually is.

    He definitely thought PhD was equivalent to Prof. :pac:


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