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Hazel774 · 11-11-2020 03:53PM

ellachapman96 wrote: »

I was the exact same! Just answered the essay based on Mohan cos I didn't know the P case so completely ignored it. And I literally wrote a few lines off Roche cos I had no choice but to do it cos the other questions I didn't know at all. I found it such a hard paper. But it seems like a lot of others did too so hopefully he'll take it into consideration.

Hopefully!

I would have been better off to just write the 2 sentences I had on Roche, my PQ answers were actually a disgrace

Jeremiah25 · 11-11-2020 03:53PM

He'll have fun marking that Constitutional paper anyway.

Hopefully might be a hint to ask somewhat more direct questions

Hamerzan Sickles · 11-11-2020 03:56PM

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

I read over it earlier but my own hunch is one question on the independence of the judiciary (so like appointment, immunity from suit, dismissal and pay) and one question on international relations (particular emphasis here on an essay Q on Crotty and Pringle). Of course there is no way to know for certain.

Then I imagine: essay question on disputed result of a referendum; problem question on freedom of expression and company; problem question on freedom of religion and equality. Essay question on one of Pres/AG/constitutional interpretation/natural law. Problem question on trial in due course of law. Essay question on duty to give reasons (fair procedures).

If not the above - perhaps a question on the right to life of the unborn/the right to refuse medical treatment.

Great paper, very predictable.

Jeremiah25 · 11-11-2020 03:58PM

There were effectively 3 case note q's on that paper.

If you didn't have an in-depth analysis of each you were immediately restricted to 5 Q'S right off the bat.

I understand the onus is on us to keep up to date with relevant case law, but I mean some of those cases weren't even in the manuals

CoconutHeadMia · 11-11-2020 04:02PM

Costello95 wrote: »

Pleaseee would anyone have predictions for contract? What’s the bare minimum we could learn? V stressed!

I too would be welcome to any predictions

Iso_123 · 11-11-2020 04:05PM

Did anyone answer the livelihood/property essay? thoughts on it?

EAA123 · 11-11-2020 04:06PM

Iso_123 wrote: »

Did anyone answer the livelihood/property essay? thoughts on it?

i attempted it and found it hard enough to link the two of them together. used cases like hand, cox, greally, cases and nvh

wbu?

Iso_123 · 11-11-2020 04:10PM

EAA123 wrote: »

i attempted it and found it hard enough to link the two of them together. used cases like hand, cox, greally, cases and nvh

wbu?

I found it a tricky enough essay question too to try and relate the case law to the question.. went through right to earn a livelihood generally and tried to tie it into property rights/the question as best i could.. also focused on cases like cox, nvh and gs v commissioner garda siochana too like yourself

Spreece · 11-11-2020 04:20PM

Coopie wrote: »

I thought it was about subordinate legislation.

I threw that in as well just in case but it came up in another question so I though there no way they did it twice in the one paper?

channing90 · 11-11-2020 04:23PM

Iso_123 wrote: »

Did anyone answer the livelihood/property essay? thoughts on it?

Yeah I did it but mainly right to property and through in cases and said they were very interlinked and bull****ted on, dunno how I fared as I Was so sick With the thought of the exam.

lsheehaneire · 11-11-2020 04:34PM

I mentioned the right to earn a livelihood but mentioned there was stronger constitutional protections for property .. also proportionality...did the question not say that property rights were stronger?

orlaghs · 11-11-2020 04:39PM

CoconutHeadMia wrote: »

I too would be welcome to any predictions

i would also love any predictions
I'm trying to cover:
Offer and acceptance
consideration + promissory estoppel
exemption clauses
consumer protections
misrepresentation
mistake
discharge of contracts
remedies (damages)

Feeling very swamped at the moment as there is so much possibility of what could come up

FE1Lordthe2nd · 11-11-2020 04:40PM

ellachapman96 wrote: »

What are people covering for contract tomorrow? Thinking of leaving out privity and mistake since they were both up in March but not sure if too risky! Maybe terms too

Hey,
Which question was privity in March?

fe1fi20 · 11-11-2020 04:40PM

orlaghs wrote: »

i would also love any predictions
I'm trying to cover:
Offer and acceptance
consideration + promissory estoppel
exemption clauses
consumer protections
misrepresentation
mistake
discharge of contracts
remedies (damages)

Feeling very swamped at the moment as there is so much possibility of what could come up

I'm doing the same, but instead of discharge I'm looking at intention and capacity. All the topics tie in together

Aoibhin511 · 11-11-2020 04:41PM

FE1Lordthe2nd wrote: »

Hey,
Which question was privity in March?

Q4

fe1fi20 · 11-11-2020 04:43PM

Aoibhin511 wrote: »

Q4

privity didnt come up in March

WesternC123 · 11-11-2020 04:43PM

CONTRACT

Hi, Sorry if this has already been discussed but can anyone tell me if they've spoken to the Law Soc re printing out the Sale of Goods and Supply or Services Act for tomorrow?

CoconutHeadMia · 11-11-2020 04:43PM

orlaghs wrote: »

i would also love any predictions
I'm trying to cover:
Offer and acceptance
consideration + promissory estoppel
exemption clauses
consumer protections
misrepresentation
mistake
discharge of contracts
remedies (damages)

Feeling very swamped at the moment as there is so much possibility of what could come up

I’m covering

Offer acceptance
Consideration
Terms
Misrepresentation
Remedies
Consumer protection exemption clauses
Mistake

Hopefully that’s enough but haven’t a clue

Aoibhin511 · 11-11-2020 04:46PM

fe1fi20 wrote: »

privity didnt come up in March

yeah it did:
Máire is the owner of the Comfy Café. She decides to expand her café and hires Bob to build a fully completed extension on the existing premises. The contract between Máire and Bob clearly states that the work is to be finished by the 31 January 2020, and it includes a penalty clause which says Bob is to be liable for the loss caused by any delays, howsoever caused.
Bob enters into sub-contract with Charles, a local plumber in town. Charles agrees to carry our all the plumbing work on the extension by 31 December 2019. Bob emphasises that it is essential that his work be done on time. However, by mid-November 2019 it becomes clear that Charles will not be able to complete the work on time. Charles demands €5,000 to enable him to hire extra workers so he can finish the work on time. However, once the work is done Bob writes Charles a letter saying he is not going to pay Charles the extra €5,000. He says he only agreed to the extra money under duress, and that Charles “did nothing extra to earn the cash”. In addition, Máire is unhappy with some of the plumbing work completed by Charles. She claims that water leaks from the pipes and is causing damage to her floors. She is threatening to sue Charles for breach of contract.
Advise Charles.

lsheehaneire · 11-11-2020 04:54PM

Can anybody briefly sum up Constitution per question...after taking 4.5 hours to complete the exam is a blur ....

fe12020autumn · 11-11-2020 04:57PM

CONTRACT
Does anyone have a Contract exam grid that includes question numbers (as well as topic and year)? Would be much appreciated !

Spreece · 11-11-2020 05:20PM

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

Great paper, very predictable.

Amazing powers of prediction, bravo!

nmurphy1441 · 11-11-2020 05:22PM

Aoibhin511 wrote: »

yeah it did:
Máire is the owner of the Comfy Café. She decides to expand her café and hires Bob to build a fully completed extension on the existing premises. The contract between Máire and Bob clearly states that the work is to be finished by the 31 January 2020, and it includes a penalty clause which says Bob is to be liable for the loss caused by any delays, howsoever caused.
Bob enters into sub-contract with Charles, a local plumber in town. Charles agrees to carry our all the plumbing work on the extension by 31 December 2019. Bob emphasises that it is essential that his work be done on time. However, by mid-November 2019 it becomes clear that Charles will not be able to complete the work on time. Charles demands €5,000 to enable him to hire extra workers so he can finish the work on time. However, once the work is done Bob writes Charles a letter saying he is not going to pay Charles the extra €5,000. He says he only agreed to the extra money under duress, and that Charles “did nothing extra to earn the cash”. In addition, Máire is unhappy with some of the plumbing work completed by Charles. She claims that water leaks from the pipes and is causing damage to her floors. She is threatening to sue Charles for breach of contract.
Advise Charles.

I remember this now!!! Completely forgot about the privy part! Can you remember what you said if you answered it?

Meg! · 11-11-2020 05:26PM

As far as I know you are not allowed print them. Only have original copies. Rules could have changed tho

Al1501 · 11-11-2020 05:26PM

Does anyone have any suggestions for recent cases for contract tomorrow? I have O' Mahony v Promontoria DAC [2020] for counter offers, but I know the examiner is looking for up to date law

Aoibhin511 · 11-11-2020 05:32PM

nmurphy1441 wrote: »

I remember this now!!! Completely forgot about the privy part! Can you remember what you said if you answered it?

Possible agency due to sub-contract - Hearn and Matchroom Boxing v Collins
Possible co-lateral contract - Shanklin Pier v Detel (less likely since she never spoke to C herself)
If all else fails she has negligence - Donoghue v Stevenson and Wall v Hegarty

FE1Rookie · 11-11-2020 05:39PM

By the sounds of it Constitutional seems the hardest one... I'm not looking forward to that in 2021

church street 94 · 11-11-2020 05:52PM

Contract
Which of the following, if any, would be safe to leave out ?
Privity, mistake or terms

Doing: O+A
Intention
Consideration/prom estoppel
Consumer protection
UI
Misrepresentation
Discharge
Remedies

CoconutHeadMia · 11-11-2020 05:54PM

Is there anywhere I could get something on the consumer insurance contract act in relation to misrepresentation? My manual doesn’t seem to have anything

JayFE1 · 11-11-2020 05:57PM

TF was going on with that paper! No Family or TDC! I thought The President / AG was red hot too for this sitting! Not even a Referendum Q! You have to play cards with the hand you’re dealt though and I’ve hit the 5/5 so I’d always back myself to hit over 50 in that situation. I reckon I’m home and dry but I’ll leave my celebratory cigar until the results just in case!

I’ve gone for the Gerry Q on the basis of journalist sources with a bit of FoE. (ii) The case note Q - I had a right touch with McGee. Cracking case. Privacy. I also went for Connolly. Duty to give reasons. (iii) The right to livelihood and property rights essay Q although more of an emphasis on the former and then tied the two (iv) NDD and property rights - first I couldn’t decide between property and livelihood but went for property as she treated fishing as a hobby and the price of the license screamed lack of compensation to me. (v) Advising the group Q - went NDD and left it at that. I only had a few minutes left and nothing screamed obvious for Constitutionality of Act part unlike the other one.

Didn’t fancy the other two essays and the last one I reckon was Habeaus Corpus. At first glance, I thought Right to Die but I went “Ah here” and moved on! It wasn’t the best paper we could have got but listen it’s not over until it’s over and we’re all still in the game at this point.

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