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Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

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  • #1592
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    ShyMets wrote: »
    we should ask MelbourneMan when the are the pubs going to reopen. He seems to have the inside track:)

    A Walter Mitty type, probably lives in a bedsit in Rathmines and sits around posting on various forums all day pretenting he's involved with the government :D


  • #1593
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Because the pubs aren't socially distanced. Everyone was on here doing the big fella glorifying the fact that they were operating as normal back when they did open. Few empty pizza boxes or fake chipper menus - we're all fooling the system sticking it to the government like right lads altogether.

    If they operated properly they'd still be open. Everyone just wants to blame everything else while taking zero responsibility on themselves.

    i think the correct answer your looking for is NPHET just want to lay the blame with pubs and foreign travel despite neither being responsible for any spike in cases, there's something very sinister about this how they have it in for pubs.


  • #1594
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Because the pubs aren't socially distanced. Everyone was on here doing the big fella glorifying the fact that they were operating as normal back when they did open. Few empty pizza boxes or fake chipper menus - we're all fooling the system sticking it to the government like right lads altogether.

    If they operated properly they'd still be open. Everyone just wants to blame everything else while taking zero responsibility on themselves.

    When they were opened I cycled to a country pub for an outside pint or two thinking it would be easy to have social distancing there.

    It would have been easy as tons of room outside but there were 5 or 6 people sitting on top of each other outside the door. Wouldn't have been able to enter without squeezing close to this group. Disappointed to say the least, as usual some people just ruin everything.


  • #1595
    opinionated3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Because the pubs aren't socially distanced. Everyone was on here doing the big fella glorifying the fact that they were operating as normal back when they did open. Few empty pizza boxes or fake chipper menus - we're all fooling the system sticking it to the government like right lads altogether.

    If they operated properly they'd still be open. Everyone just wants to blame everything else while taking zero responsibility on themselves.

    No idea what pub's you were in but in the two I managed to visit while they were open here in Clare, I thought they were excellently run. Never felt safer. Actually witnessed the landlady of my regular haunt telling two individuals to leave the pub when they had walked in the doors without their masks. So again, I see no problem with a pub like that, none whatsoever.
    Most covid issues in my area actually stemmed from the primary schools. And a fairly substantial outbreak in the traveling community. Nothing to do with the pub's being open


  • #1596
    FrStone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    opinionated3 wrote: »
    What's the difference between me going to a socially distanced small rural pub complete with all the signage and perspex screening paraphernalia and going to work each morning in a factory with over 100 workers where social distancing is negligible and the same signage and screening is erected in the canteen?

    The big question is what's the difference between me sitting in a pub that is subject to inspections from the Gardai, vs me going to a house party because the pubs aren't open.


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  • #1597
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FrStone wrote: »
    The big question is what's the difference between me sitting in a pub that is subject to inspections from the Gardai, vs me going to a house party because the pubs aren't open.

    Just because the pub is closed it doesn't mean you have to go to a house party.


  • #1598
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    When asked a few months back by the vinters association to produce evidence that pubs were the cause of a spike in cases deputy chief medical officer, Holohans lackey Ronan Glynn actually laughed and said that they should google "covid" and "pubs" and this will give you your answer, people were flabbergasted at this response, i couldnt believe someone in a position like this could possibly come out with an answer like that.

    So here we have a supposed high ranking medical professional actually asking people to use google , instead of actually producing evidence to show that pubs are the cause of spike in cases, and they expect people to take them seriously and do as they say.


  • #1599
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Just because the pub is closed it doesn't mean you have to go to a house party.

    listen mate i assume your a non drinker or someone who sits in all the time that's fine, but the majority of us are sick to death of sitting in all the time we've done enough of that to last a lifetime, zero justifaction whatsoever for keeping pubs closed, none.


  • #1600
    [Deleted User]
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    SB71 wrote: »
    listen mate i assume your a non drinker or someone who sits in all the time that's fine, but the majority of us are sick to death of sitting in all the time we've done enough of that to last a lifetime, zero justifaction whatsoever for keeping pubs closed, none.

    Quite the opposite, I love a drink and I love a drink in the pub but I'm also trying to be a grown up. Suck it up and deal with it, you're not exactly being asked to go to the trenches or down the mines or anything. The pubs will open again and we can all happily go.


  • #1601
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Quite the opposite, I love a drink and I love a drink in the pub but I'm also trying to be a grown up. Suck it up and deal with it, you're not exactly being asked to go to the trenches or down the mines or anything. The pubs will open again and we can all happily go.

    i dont believe you no one i know who likes a drink in the pub would have this attitiude, im still waiting for you to show us evidence that pubs are the cause of spike in cases?


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  • #1602
    [Deleted User]
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    SB71 wrote: »
    i dont believe you no one i know who likes a drink in the pub would have this attitiude, im still waiting for you to show us evidence that pubs are the cause of spike in cases?

    Believe what you like, but that's a ridiculous response.

    "Everyone has to think like me or they're lying". **** sake.


  • #1603
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,027 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    SB71 wrote: »
    i dont believe you no one i know who likes a drink in the pub would have this attitiude, im still waiting for you to show us evidence that pubs are the cause of spike in cases?

    He won't because he can't.


  • #1604
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Believe what you like, but that's a ridiculous response.

    "Everyone has to think like me or they're lying". **** sake.

    ha i rest my case, you cant produce any evidence because there is NONE to be produced,because it's pure fantasy, because NHHET since the very start have continually blamed pubs and travel, these 2 industrys have suffered very badly because overlord Holohan and his minions have some bizzare dislike of them, pubs especially, and you've a spinless government who for the most part just blindly follow what they say instead of having a backbone and opening up society and saving peoples livelyhoods.

    Meanwhile they all live comfortable lives on their 6 figure salarys and nice houses while people struggle on a pandemic payment and trying to keep a roof over their head , and will most likely end up on social welfare as their jobs are lost for good.

    Fantastic eh :mad:


  • #1605
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You rest absolutely no case. This is always the argument from you shower looking someone to compile evidence for you by way of deflection. Go and look it up yourselves from the experts who's sole job is to make these decisions. Sitting banging your rattle on the side of the pram is ridiculous, man the **** up and ride it out. It's not a lot to be asked of you and we'll all see each other in the pub when it's all over.


  • #1606
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    You rest absolutely no case. This is always the argument from you shower looking someone to compile evidence for you by way of deflection. Go and look it up yourselves from the experts who's sole job is to make these decisions. Sitting banging your rattle on the side of the pram is ridiculous, man the **** up and ride it out. It's not a lot to be asked of you and we'll all see each other in the pub when it's all over.

    "When asked a few months back by the vinters association to produce evidence that pubs were the cause of a spike in cases deputy chief medical officer, Holohans lackey Ronan Glynn actually laughed and said that they should google "covid" and "pubs" and this will give you your answer, people were flabbergasted at this response, i couldnt believe someone in a position like this could possibly come out with an answer like that."


    AS per above, the experts were asked. You are now pushing their line, so lets see your evidence. I believe 10 confirmed clusters in total came from pubs, which is miniscule.


  • #1607
    FrStone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Just because the pub is closed it doesn't mean you have to go to a house party.

    Of course I don't have to. I will though.


  • #1608
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    You rest absolutely no case. This is always the argument from you shower looking someone to compile evidence for you by way of deflection. Go and look it up yourselves from the experts who's sole job is to make these decisions. Sitting banging your rattle on the side of the pram is ridiculous, man the **** up and ride it out. It's not a lot to be asked of you and we'll all see each other in the pub when it's all over.

    go away out of that your actually embarrasing yourself, if you want to back up a debate you produce evidence something you clearly dont have.

    i bet your one of these people who believe absolutely everything FFG and NPHET say and take this as being gospel.:rolleyes:


  • #1609
    vojiwox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Quite the opposite, I love a drink and I love a drink in the pub but I'm also trying to be a grown up. Suck it up and deal with it, you're not exactly being asked to go to the trenches or down the mines or anything. The pubs will open again and we can all happily go.

    Yep love the pub too. Sitting at the bar. Heaven. But it's a few months, get the vaccine sorted and let's get back at it!! When you think about what previous generations endured to keep society going. We really are a bunch of snowflakes :)

    Pubs lead to too many households meeting up, i could see it in my many locals. 6 different households at a table. It was inevitable they'd be closed. I made the most of them when they were open though but didn't meet anyone outside my house in them.

    Closed now and numbers looking heading down. Open them again and numbers will go up. Simples.


  • #1610
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They're the people making the decisions so you may take their word as your gospel whether you like it or not. You can't go into a closed pub, tough titty.


  • #1611
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vojiwox wrote: »
    Yep love the pub too. Sitting at the bar. Heaven. But it's a few months, get the vaccine sorted and let's get back at it!! When you think about what previous generations endured to keep society going. We really are a bunch of snowflakes :)

    Pubs lead to too many households meeting up, i could see it in my many locals. 6 different households at a table. It was inevitable they'd be closed. I made the most of them when they were open though but didn't meet anyone outside my house in them.

    Closed now and numbers looking heading down. Open them again and numbers will go up. Simples.

    You'd swear everyone was being marched off to world war 1. Absolute shadows of people.


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  • #1612
    vojiwox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    FrStone wrote: »
    Of course I don't have to. I will though.

    And there you have it.

    Remember these folk when we get out the other side.


  • #1613
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    They're the people making the decisions so you may take their word as your gospel whether you like it or not. You can't go into a closed pub.

    jesus wept :D still in denial, there's no point in talking to people like you, brainwashed by NPHET and FFG.

    good fcukin luck to you:rolleyes:


  • #1614
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    vojiwox wrote: »
    Yep love the pub too. Sitting at the bar. Heaven. But it's a few months, get the vaccine sorted and let's get back at it!! When you think about what previous generations endured to keep society going. We really are a bunch of snowflakes :)

    Pubs lead to too many households meeting up, i could see it in my many locals. 6 different households at a table. It was inevitable they'd be closed. I made the most of them when they were open though but didn't meet anyone outside my house in them.

    Closed now and numbers looking heading down. Open them again and numbers will go up. Simples.

    produce evidence or refrain from posting nonsensical rubbish, lies.


  • #1615
    vojiwox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    SB71 wrote: »
    produce evidence or refrain from posting nonsensical rubbish, lies.

    Evidence for what sorry?


  • #1616
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    vojiwox wrote: »
    Evidence for what sorry?

    Evidence to show the justifaction that pubs should remain closed, as in supposed spike in cases attributed to pubs, because there isnt any, i dont think anyone would complain too much if pubs were the cause of a huge spike in cases like meat factories, nursing homes, direct provision centres,etc have been.

    NPHET for some bizzare reason have continually blamed pubs since the very start, without producing a shred of evidence to back up their claims, it's lies.


  • #1617
    vojiwox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    SB71 wrote: »
    Evidence to show the justifaction that pubs should remain closed, as in supposed spike in cases attributed to pubs, because there isnt any, i doint think anyone would complain if pubs were the cause of a huge spike in cases like meat factories, nursing homes, direct provision centres have been,etc.

    NPHET for some bizzare reason have continually blamed pubs since the very start, without producing a shred of evidence to back up their claims, it's lies.

    It's not just NPHET though. Other countries have taken the same action.

    It's pretty obvious that gangs of people meeting up in pubs will spread a virus. We hardly need some peer reviewed study for that? :pac:

    Although I'll take the funding to carry it out!! LOL


  • #1618
    opinionated3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Saying " it's pretty obvious" is not definitive evidence. What's the actual evidence that they cause spikes in this country?


  • #1619
    vojiwox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    opinionated3 wrote: »
    Saying " it's pretty obvious" is not definitive evidence. What's the actual evidence that they cause spikes in this country?

    I guess the case numbers are evidence?

    I'm not sure I get your point, why do you think the cases went so high and why are they decreasing so much now?

    Would you agree that someone with the virus meeting people in a pub and sitting with them for a few hours will probably spread the virus though yeah?


  • #1620
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    vojiwox wrote: »
    It's not just NPHET though. Other countries have taken the same action.

    It's pretty obvious that gangs of people meeting up in pubs will spread a virus. We hardly need some peer reviewed study for that? :pac:

    Although I'll take the funding to carry it out!! LOL

    pretty obvious eh, really :eek:

    and you expect pubs and people who work in the industry and people who like going to the pub to just accept that it's "pretty obvious" without a shred of evidence produced to show that pubs are one of the causes of the huge spike in cases...seriously :eek:


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  • #1621
    vojiwox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    SB71 wrote: »
    pretty obvious eh, really :eek:

    and you expect pubs and people who work in the industry and people who like going to the pub to just accept that it's "pretty obvious" without a shred of evidence produced to show that pubs are one of the causes of the huge spike in cases...seriously :eek:

    Would you agree that someone with the virus meeting people in a pub and sitting with them for a few hours will probably spread the virus though yeah?


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