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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 105 ✭✭lemonTrees


    I have 6 cousins all passed middle age in New York and Rochester and they are beside themselves with fear as to what is happening to the USA right now. It used to be a joke in the past but now it's getting serious. What the Republican party are starting to do is believe in their own lies which is a worrying development.

    Why are American's always afraid "besides themselves with fear" :pac:

    Maybe they need more ammo?

    What a screwed up country they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,728 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I have 6 cousins all passed middle age in New York and Rochester and they are beside themselves with fear as to what is happening to the USA right now. It used to be a joke in the past but now it's getting serious. What the Republican party are starting to do is believe in their own lies which is a worrying development.

    The Republican Party have been a cesspool of cunts since the 1980's. So, to me, it's no surprise that it's at where it's at right now. This is a party that started an illegal war in Iraq based purely on a massive and demonstrable lie, so anything is possible with them.

    However, I don't believe that Trump and his muppet brigade are going to do anything too crazy. He's a grifter that managed to get the Republican ticket in 2016 and has said so much baloney that easily impressionable morons will follow him no matter what. The recent efforts of relieving fools and their money with baseless claims of voter fraud is just the final part of the scam, before they fuck off.

    Can't come quick enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,623 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    VinLieger wrote: »
    The only real fraud confirmed so far has been seemingly by a tiny number of individual republicans voting for their dead relatives etc

    There was a tweet of someone who rang the Voter Fraud hotline and reported that he had proof his neighbour voted twice. They were very interested until he mentioned his neighbour voted twice for Trump before they hung up on him.

    Weird, I'd have thought if they were trying to find legitimate voter fraud, they'd be taking into account fraud which helps Trump too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    VinLieger wrote: »
    The only real fraud confirmed so far has been seemingly by a tiny number of individual republicans voting for their dead relatives etc

    It seems what i wasn't missing anything. the post originally linked to this tweet which doesn't mention PA at all https://mobile.twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1326368563804983298


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tony EH wrote: »
    The Republican Party have been a cesspool of cunts since the 1980's. So, to me, it's no surprise that it's at where it's at right now. This is a party that started an illegal war in Iraq based purely on a massive and demonstrable lie, so anything is possible with them.

    However, I don't believe that Trump and his muppet brigade are going to do anything too crazy. He's a grifter that managed to get the Republican ticket in 2016 and has said so much baloney that easily impressionable morons will follow him no matter what. The recent efforts of relieving fools and their money with baseless claims of voter fraud is just the final part of the scam, before they fuck off.

    Can't come quick enough.

    You would have to go further back in your estimation of how long they have c*nts.

    Nixon committing treason and prolonging the Vietnam war, to help secure his election for example.


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  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It seems what i wasn't missing anything. the post originally linked to this tweet which doesn't mention PA at all https://mobile.twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1326368563804983298

    You must be great at keeping your clipboard neat, yeah wrong link put in and changed once the page rendered.
    Relax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    lemonTrees wrote: »
    Why are American's always afraid "besides themselves with fear" :pac:

    Maybe they need more ammo?

    What a screwed up country they are.

    Yeah I know, right - image turning up to a polling station armed. What the fcuk is wrong with that lot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,421 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    He hasnt won yet. He will win. Semantics I know but...

    Just double checking, but you have donated to the legal fund for Trump by now haven't you? How much did you donate? the basic $42, or did you go large?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    astrofool wrote: »
    Just double checking, but you have donated to the legal fund for Trump by now haven't you? How much did you donate? the basic $42, or did you go large?

    If he had cashed out his bet he could have donated a lot more, now he just looks at what could have been.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Tony EH wrote: »
    The Republican Party have been a cesspool of cunts since the 1980's. So, to me, it's no surprise that it's at where it's at right now. This is a party that started an illegal war in Iraq based purely on a massive and demonstrable lie, so anything is possible with them.

    However, I don't believe that Trump and his muppet brigade are going to do anything too crazy. He's a grifter that managed to get the Republican ticket in 2016 and has said so much baloney that easily impressionable morons will follow him no matter what. The recent efforts of relieving fools and their money with baseless claims of voter fraud is just the final part of the scam, before they fuck off.

    Can't come quick enough.

    I wish I could buy that this is just one last squeeze if the money tree (and some of the begging emails show they are at least asking for money to pay off the campaign debt) - but I really don't think it is - not for Trump. He genuinely believes he won and has been hard done by. When the court cases go against him- he will think they are fradulent too.
    I don't know who it what will convince him otherwise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Penn wrote: »
    There was a tweet of someone who rang the Voter Fraud hotline and reported that he had proof his neighbour voted twice. They were very interested until he mentioned his neighbour voted twice for Trump before they hung up on him.

    Weird, I'd have thought if they were trying to find legitimate voter fraud, they'd be taking into account fraud which helps Trump too.

    Wether you're republican or democrat you should care about voter fraud... Has said many many republicans the last week and a bit.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If he had cashed out his bet he could have donated a lot more, now he just looks at what could have been.

    Don't think she had a bet on, think you might be thinking of someone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Don't think she had a bet on, think you might be thinking of someone else?

    They all blend into one at this stage like a big auld homogeneous blob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,379 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    why is it always tomorrow, or next week or in two weeks with these guys?

    because it drums up more support for his go fund me. unfortunately for him thats been stopped too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    You must be great at keeping your clipboard neat, yeah wrong link put in and changed once the page rendered.
    Relax.

    It wasn't a criticism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    listermint wrote: »
    because it drums up more support for his go fund me. unfortunately for him thats been stopped too :)

    the question was rhetorical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    White House threatens to fire anyone who tries to quit
    https://americanindependent.com/white-house-threatens-to-fire-anyone-who-tries-to-quit/

    The circus continues..


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    White House threatens to fire anyone who tries to quit
    https://americanindependent.com/white-house-threatens-to-fire-anyone-who-tries-to-quit/

    The circus continues..

    Really turning into a mix of American Psycho and Downfall at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,489 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    If you quit you'll be fired.

    Seems legit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    So basically we're at the point now that we expected. That all instances of voter fraud so far uncovered have been Trump voters, and the only evidence of Biden fraud brought forward, was in fact a fraud that the GOP paid for.

    It's always the same. Whatever the GOP accuse the Demorats of, they have already done themselves.

    I wonder are they *so* pissed about this because they throw millions of dollars into defrauding the election but still managed to lose?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    The thing is, guarantee all the Trump supporters who (keep!) getting caught trying this stuff didn't think they would because they believed him when he told them how easy it was to commit voter fraud.

    Everything about him requires using up suckers and then leaving them on the hook while he moves on to the next thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    seamus wrote: »
    So basically we're at the point now that we expected. That all instances of voter fraud so far uncovered have been Trump voters, and the only evidence of Biden fraud brought forward, was in fact a fraud that the GOP paid for.

    It's always the same. Whatever the GOP accuse the Demorats of, they have already done themselves.

    I wonder are they *so* pissed about this because they throw millions of dollars into defrauding the election but still managed to lose?

    The end goal was never fraud; it was always to delay certification of the results.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    biko wrote: »

    I suspect that he's arguing semantics here in the hopes of holding on to his gofundme money.

    His original Statement actually said nothing , he explicitly said that he DID NOT hear his supervisors say anything about changing dates etc. but that it was something he thought they might do.

    So , whilst he probably hasn't technically "recanted" his statement , what has happened is that under questioning he has been forced to admit that his statement doesn't say what the Right Wing media have been trying to suggest it says.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    The end goal was never fraud; it was always to delay certification of the results.
    I would have said the end goal was always the grift. Conning people out of donations.

    I don't put it past them; but attempting to bypass the actual election results and reinstall Trump is a recipe for carnage.

    For the likes of Trump, this is of minimal concern. Oligarchs usually increase their wealth & power during chaos and conflict. But the rest of the GOP aren't so comfortably sheltered.

    At a state level, I can't see a court or a governor allowing frivilous court cases to delay certification, when the end result could be actual violence on the streets, attacks on politicians' homes, etc. The existence of a court case isn't sufficient to delay certification. The court can just decide to say "enough" and push it through.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    I suspect that he's arguing semantics here in the hopes of holding on to his gofundme money.

    His original Statement actually said nothing , he explicitly said that he DID NOT hear his supervisors say anything about changing dates etc. but that it was something he thought they might do.

    So , whilst he probably hasn't technically "recanted" his statement , what has happened is that under questioning he has been forced to admit that his statement doesn't say what the Right Wing media have been trying to suggest it says.

    That was my reading of it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭omega man


    So thousands of identified “fraudulent” votes in Nevada were actually military personnel based out of state.
    Morons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    seamus wrote: »
    I would have said the end goal was always the grift. Conning people out of donations.

    I don't put it past them; but attempting to bypass the actual election results and reinstall Trump is a recipe for carnage.

    For the likes of Trump, this is of minimal concern. Oligarchs usually increase their wealth & power during chaos and conflict. But the rest of the GOP aren't so comfortably sheltered.

    At a state level, I can't see a court or a governor allowing frivilous court cases to delay certification, when the end result could be actual violence on the streets, attacks on politicians' homes, etc. The existence of a court case isn't sufficient to delay certification. The court can just decide to say "enough" and push it through.

    Yeah good point, I probably should have worded it better to specify my point was in relation only to the election results, but I would agree with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,489 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    omega man wrote: »
    So thousands of identified “fraudulent” votes in Nevada were actually military personnel based out of state.
    Morons.

    Yip. The Republican Party is actively trying to get the votes of military personal thrown out.

    2020.


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  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Boggles wrote: »
    Yip. The Republican Party is actively trying to get the votes of military personal thrown out.

    2020.

    Ah sure they are just losers and their family members gave trump covid (apparently)


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