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Billy Mays · 10-11-2020 07:33PM

schmittel wrote: »

Do you have a link for that?

Certainly

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/10/20/half-trump-supporters-believe-qanon-theory-child-s

10-11-2020 07:35PM

Actually great article here on how things might pan out- ugly is not the word but I love the mention of the possibility of Nancy Pelosi as temporary president

Essentially both Democrats and Republicans could cause tit for tat damage- it’s just not where anyone wants to be- I think we could well see citizen demonstrations from both sides over coming weeks if it looks like dirty tricks start getting implemented-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/06/state-legislatures-electoral-college-steal/

Dr. Bre · 10-11-2020 07:35PM

If trump turns this around then it’s the end of democracy in the US

OscarMIlde · 10-11-2020 07:35PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Yes. How would I know about the life of Donald Trump in the 80s and 90s?
Or are you talking about Trump in politics?

How do you know his story from childhood all the way to Republican nomination?

You should watch the documentary about Roger Stone, I'd highly recommend it. It's both highly entertaining and incredibly horrifying. It explains a lot about the trajectory the Republican party has taken over the last few decades and how Trump became president.

cnocbui · 10-11-2020 07:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

And 64% of Republicans believed Obama was born in another country.

Possibly even more crazy and only something I learned recently is that (in 2009) only 6% of American scientists are republican. I mean I figured it would be low, but not that low.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/

There is a significant educational divide between Democrat and Republican voters.

10-11-2020 07:40PM

cnocbui wrote: »

There is a significant educational divide between Democrat and Republican voters.

Oh for sure, I just didn't think the divide was that wide.

hometruths · 10-11-2020 07:44PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Certainly

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/10/20/half-trump-supporters-believe-qanon-theory-child-s

Fair enough, I'll admit I did not believe that to be a true for a second, (I assumed it would be some niche poll of QAnon fanatics) but it certainly seems to be true according to that YouGov poll.

If 35 odd million people believe that, it is very worrying for America no matter who is president.

Kermit.de.frog · 10-11-2020 07:44PM

cnocbui wrote: »

There is a significant educational divide between Democrat and Republican voters.

It may not be PC to say but this is absolutely right.

That's how you end up with Trump leading the republican party.

OscarMIlde · 10-11-2020 07:45PM

Strumms wrote: »

We are living in some truly fûcked up times...

You’d start to wonder if this whole shítshow is being enabled by the Russians or wtf is going on... there is NOTHING remotely normal about this. Covid AND the election.

I haven’t seen the reports but if he’s about the fire to FBI and CIA chiefs, NOW...that’s mad , again, America is in trouble...

I think it's fairly clear it's been planned and implemented by a faction of the Republican party who haven't an iota of scruples, morals, or sense of decency. The only thing they care about is winning, securing power, and making money, at any and all costs.

The rest of the Republican party went along with it as it benefitted them too. Some seem to be developing concern over this, but not enough concern to actually take a stand and put a halt to it.

omega man · 10-11-2020 07:46PM

Per Axios:

A team of 28 international observers from the Organization of American States, invited by the Trump administration, issued a preliminary report in which it praised last week’s U.S. elections while criticizing baseless allegations of systematic fraud.

drogon. · 10-11-2020 07:46PM

So here we go !

Trump Supporter Arrested For Requesting Absentee Ballot For Dead Mother
https://twitter.com/gop_ethics/status/1326002719535083520?s=21

Tchaikovsky · 10-11-2020 07:46PM

A significant number of people have smoothly transitioned to an alternative reality it seems.

Tchaikovsky · 10-11-2020 07:48PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yesterday, they cut away from Kayleigh Whatsherface in the middle of her briefing because the anchor was so alarmed at what she was saying.

Kayleigh Magananny

cnocbui · 10-11-2020 07:50PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It may not be PC to say but this is absolutely right.

That's how you end up with Trump leading the republican party.

Facts are usually the opposite of PC. This is one of them.

10-11-2020 07:51PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It may not be PC to say but this is absolutely right.

That's how you end up with Trump leading the republican party.

Well I would say that it's only not considered PC as it upsets those who are republican.

In terms of subjectivity though, it's merely stating facts.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/03/20/1-trends-in-party-affiliation-among-demographic-groups/

CFlat · 10-11-2020 07:51PM

Sales of Corona beer dropped dramatically in the US when Corona virus hit the country. Some Americans thought you got Covid19 if you drank it. It's not a big leap to think they would believe lies about illegal votes and fraud pedalled out by Donald Trump.

Boggles · 10-11-2020 07:52PM

Biden spoke with Martin and Boris earlier. Will speak live soon.

As Trump caps tweets absolute nonsense.

All perfectly normal.

briany · 10-11-2020 07:52PM

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

A significant number of people have smoothly transitioned to an alternative reality it seems.

https://www.thestatesman.com/world/divisive-use-of-social-media-will-lead-to-balkanisation-of-society-obama-1502552501.html

Former US President Barack Obama has warned against the irresponsible use of social media that fosters division and leads to the “Balkanisation of society”, in what was seen as a dig at his successor and prolific tweeter Donald Trump.

Obama was speaking to Britain’s Prince Harry in an interview for the BBC’s Radio 4 Today programme which was broadcast on Wednesday morning.

Obama warned that the Internet risked reinforcing people’s prejudices and leading to a fractured society. “All of us in leadership have to find ways in which we can recreate a common space on the Internet.”

He expressed concern about a future where facts are discarded and people only read and listen to things that reinforce their own views.

“One of the dangers of the Internet is that people can have entirely different realities. They can be cocooned in information that reinforces their current biases,” he said.

Obama did not mention Trump by name during the interview, which he said was his first since leaving office. However, Trump’s campaign and presidency have been characterized by his outspoken use of Twitter.

“The question has to do with how do we harness this technology in a way that allows a multiplicity of voices, allows a diversity of views, but doesn’t lead to a Balkanisation of society and allows ways of finding common ground,” Obama said in the interview, which was taped in September.

listermint · 10-11-2020 07:53PM

CFlat wrote: »

Sales of Corona beer dropped dramatically in the US when Corona virus hit the country. Some Americans thought you got Covid19 if you drank it. It's not a big leap to think they would believe lies about illegal votes and fraud pedalled out by Donald Trump.

It's on TV.... Youre not allowed tell lies on TV. There are rules.

Something something something

thecretinhop · 10-11-2020 07:56PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ten-attorneys-general-join-supreme-court-case-against-pennsylvania-mail-ballot-deadline

let's be honest. most politicians are snakes. no 1 is all dat matters.
I find it interesting they are backing him to the hilt. hmm..

cnocbui · 10-11-2020 07:56PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh for sure, I just didn't think the divide was that wide.

According to Pew, 54 percent of college graduates either identified as Democrats or leaned Democratic, compared to 39 percent who identified or leaned Republican. One-third of Americans have a college degree.

Just 25 years ago, those numbers were perfectly reversed in the Pew survey, with the GOP holding a 54-39 advantage among people with college degrees.

The discrepancy becomes even greater when Pew distilled the sample down to people who have post-graduate education — at least some work toward a master’s, doctorate, law or similar degree. In that group, Democrats had a 2-to-1 edge, by 63 percent to 31 percent. In 1994, the two parties were almost evenly divided, with the Democratic lead just 47-45.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/22/democrats-more-educated-republicans-pew-research-c/

They do compensate, somewhat, by owning more guns, so I guess that makes them feel better.

Republicans are much more likely than Democrats to report having a gun in their home. A majority of Republicans (55%) say they have a gun in their home, compared with 32% of Democrats.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/21496/gun-ownership-higher-among-republicans-than-democrats.aspx

Cody montana · 10-11-2020 07:57PM

They are attempting a coup.

10-11-2020 07:57PM

This short clip shows how bad the partisan divide has gotten in recent decades. You could even argue that one side not accepting a presidential election result was inevitable based on this trend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEczkhfLwqM

10-11-2020 08:00PM

cnocbui wrote: »

They do compensate, somewhat, by owning more guns, so I guess that makes them feel better.

Republicans are much more likely than Democrats to report having a gun in their home. A majority of Republicans (55%) say they have a gun in their home, compared with 32% of Democrats.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/21496/gun-ownership-higher-among-republicans-than-democrats.aspx

I'm actually surprised that that many democrats have guns (albeit in 2005). I lived in America and don't believe I ever met someone who openly admitted to owning a gun.

Strumms · 10-11-2020 08:02PM

Buford T Justice wrote: »

How much of a risk is it that he'll pull this off?

We can all concede that Trump will stop at nothing to cling to power.
He will lie, steal and cheat as much as possible to preserve himself without a thought for the consequences. He could care less about the american people or democracy.

Is there a real danger here?

If I’m an honest, straight batting republican, I’m abhorring what’s going down.

The entire USA values its freedom, democracy and fair and level playing field... above anything...

George W Bush
Colin Powell
William Cohen
Carlos Gutierrez
Ray LaHood
Mary Peters
Bill Reilly
Tom Ridge
Raymond DuBois...

To mention a handful, want trump gone and voted for Biden

James Mattis "the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us." This, coming from Trumps Secretary Of Defense...

Full list..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_oppose_the_Donald_Trump_2020_presidential_campaign

cnocbui · 10-11-2020 08:04PM

CFlat wrote: »

Sales of Corona beer dropped dramatically in the US when Corona virus hit the country. Some Americans thought you got Covid19 if you drank it. It's not a big leap to think they would believe lies about illegal votes and fraud pedalled out by Donald Trump.

Some marketer missed a golden opportunity:

The more Corona you drink, the more wall we build˜.

˜in a pigs eye we will

drogon. · 10-11-2020 08:04PM

Honestly I wonder what countries that the Americans invaded to introduce them to Democracy are thinking right now ?

Professor Moriarty · 10-11-2020 08:05PM

ElitesTeam wrote: »

So much voter fraud being discovered day after day.

Yes, it's awful isn't it? What should be done about it?

10-11-2020 08:05PM

ElitesTeam wrote: »

So much voter fraud being discovered day after day.

Yeah all of it republican so far

cnocbui · 10-11-2020 08:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm actually surprised that that many democrats have guns (albeit in 2005). I lived in America and don't believe I ever met someone who openly admitted to owning a gun.

Only 40% own guns, but there has been a recent surge - amongst mostly african American women who don't vote republican.

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