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Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

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  • #1532
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    People signed up to this lockdown as it was time limited

    Pubs will have to be opened at least in some limited way for December or the government will lose the people

    People just need to do what they’re told, not “sign up” to things.


  • #1533
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    People just need to do what they’re told, not “sign up” to things.

    Nah, it’s not North Korea here


  • #1534
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,741 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Pubs should be given a chance to trade in December in thus letting people enjoy life but pub/enjoyment and covid go hand in hand in the world of NPHET and they will suggested 'keep them shut' in which MM and co will bow down too

    As already said level 3 with outside/smoking area seating will just not cut it esp for the time of year. FFS laughing stock of Europe we will be. Also Level 3 has it challenges

    15 max numbers is such a headache for places esp smaller places that are lucky enough to have room outside

    The lone drinker along with couples would find it hard to get somewhere

    From my experince the level 2 style openings were great and not as much a problem finding anywhere. Lets hope a middle ground is found and they can operate indoors in December. Could we see an order in say 'All pubs must be closed Stephens day/New Years Eve/New Years day


  • #1535
    vafankillar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭vafankillar


    SB71 wrote: »
    Exactry, imagine having to sit outside in December in the evening and it can get to below freezing, people will catch a cold and then panic and think it's the virus, it's sheer lunacy.

    you don't catch a cold from being cold, you catch it from someone else the the same way you catch covid lol


  • #1536
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    SB71 wrote: »
    I look forward to this Melbourne Man character producing evidence to show that pubs are the cause in the spike in cases the last few months.
    .
    you come out that, and then actually go on to say this!!
    SB71 wrote: »
    As many people have already mentioned, the knock on effect from lock downs will be far more devstating that covid 19 will ever be, it doesnt take a virologist or economist to predict this.
    oh deary, deary me... :pac:


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  • #1537
    emo72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭emo72


    Pubs better be open on the 1st of December or else.

    That's my scientific view on the scenario.


  • #1538
    Jimson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Jimson


    MelbourneMan wrote: »
    Hello.

    You are incorrect in your understanding on this point. Keeping public houses even when cases decrease to containable levels will be one of several measures essential to keeping the virus suppressed.

    The goal is to avoid big swings in suppression measures, and a return to the Level 2 type position as attempted during the summer is now known, and importantly, widely understood by the general public, to be unsustainable, and leads to requirement to increase controls to L4 or L5.

    The government clearly wishes, understandably, to avoid this if at all possible. Advice is that a medium to long term variant of L3 is the best strategy to that end.

    Hello, Hi, Howdy, Well, Good Afternoon.

    You started off posting in a normal fashion on the site and then started with this drivel and acting like your part of decisions the government make.

    Its sad really.

    Anyway back on topic good results today and hopefully the schools won't drive up the numbers. Christmas wont be the same without a few pints.


  • #1539
    nofools
    Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭nofools


    AssetBacked2 wrote: »
    It makes sense to think about pubs being a source of spread; drunk people struggling to socially distance. But the key point is that there is no actual data to back this claim up. It is disturbing that the decision to close pubs and keep them closed was based on what is effectively a hunch.

    You need data?

    My data is a lifetime of skulling pints and losing the run of myself.


  • #1540
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 676 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sure look if the pubs dont reopen for christmas there is always a few local shebeens to go too ;)


  • #1541
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Matt Doherty wrote: »
    I presume you don't look left and right before crossing a road because there is no data that it reduces risk.

    Been a born again, you don't mind pub never to open.


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  • #1542
    mohawk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Sure look if the pubs dont reopen for christmas there is always a few local shebeens to go too ;)

    If numbers are low at Christmas and pubs are closed that is exactly what will happen. I am sure they will be controlled environments with plenty social distancing. I reckon NPHET will recommend keeping pubs closed until the very end.


  • #1543
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    rubadub wrote: »
    you come out that, and then actually go on to say this!!


    oh deary, deary me... :pac:

    what are you going on about :confused:


  • #1544
    SB71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭SB71


    vafankillar wrote: »
    you don't catch a cold from being cold, you catch it from someone else the the same way you catch covid lol

    if someones immune system is very weak they will catch a cold outdoors if the weather is bad,.


  • #1545
    Tazz T
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    That 6+ months option is looking fairly conservative at the moment. It could be next summer before pubs open (with restrictions) by the look of things at the moment.


  • #1546
    littlevillage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Covid cases going down nicely. I'd say we'll have Restaurants and food pubs open when current 5 week Lock-down is concluded. In other words we'll go back to Level 3.

    Probably have wet pubs open
    (Level 2) before Christmas.


  • #1547
    questionmark?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    SB71 wrote: »
    if someones immune system is very weak they will catch a cold outdoors if the weather is bad,.

    Dont know if your serious or having a laugh but lets imagine your serious. Only if they are in the vacinity of someone who has the virus. You do not and I repeat, do not, catch the common cold virus from just cold weather!


  • #1548
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,247 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    littlevillage wrote: »
    Covid cases going down nicely. I'd say we'll have Restaurants and food pubs open when current 5 week Lock-down is concluded. In other words we'll go back to Level 3.

    Probably have wet pubs open
    (Level 2) before Christmas.

    Dublin pubs are no chance coming back before january, government wont allow it


  • #1549
    undertaker fan 88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭undertaker fan 88


    littlevillage wrote: »
    Covid cases going down nicely. I'd say we'll have Restaurants and food pubs open when current 5 week Lock-down is concluded. In other words we'll go back to Level 3.

    Probably have wet pubs open
    (Level 2) before Christmas.

    Level 3 is outdoor only so no pubs or restaurants unless 15 outside


  • #1550
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,360 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    undertaker fan 88 wrote: »
    Level 3 is outdoor only so no pubs or restaurants unless 15 outside

    Up to and including outdoor only. But the 5 level plan has never been either 5 levels or a plan, so who knows, I'm not getting my hopes up for Christmas eve pints anyway.


  • #1551
    AssetBacked2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭AssetBacked2


    nofools wrote: »
    You need data?

    My data is a lifetime of skulling pints and losing the run of myself.

    Not everyone has a drink problem who goes to the pub though.


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  • #1552
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,741 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    The leader has spoken

    https://extra.ie/2020/11/10/news/irish-news/tony-holohan-christmas-pints


  • #1553
    emo72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭emo72


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    The leader has spoken

    https://extra.ie/2020/11/10/news/irish-news/tony-holohan-christmas-pints

    He's an absolute killjoy.


  • #1554
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,360 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    The leader has spoken

    https://extra.ie/2020/11/10/news/irish-news/tony-holohan-christmas-pints
    emo72 wrote: »
    He's an absolute killjoy.

    Good thing he's the cmo and not minister for the craic then isn't it.....


  • #1555
    AnniePowwa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭AnniePowwa


    ill get hammered in a field with a hundred people if i have too


  • #1556
    emo72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭emo72


    AnniePowwa wrote: »
    ill get hammered in a field with a hundred people if i have too

    A socially distanced field I hope! Will they sell craft beer? Sign me up. Don't tell those killjoy naysayers.


  • #1557
    AnniePowwa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭AnniePowwa


    emo72 wrote: »
    A socially distanced field I hope! Will they sell craft beer? Sign me up. Don't tell those killjoy naysayers.

    We can all walk around with cattle prods


  • #1558
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,741 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    The scarry thing is MM and Leo will go with his advice

    No way will they disobey him twice


  • #1559
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    The scarry thing is MM and Leo will go with his advice

    No way will they disobey him twice

    MM and Leo should tell him in no uncertain terms to f*ck off. Two days now where consecutive case numbers are under 300, one-quarter the tallies of three weeks ago. We have made the necessary sacrifices, now the Government need to hold up their end of the bargain. The pubs simply have to re-open on December 1st, subject to social distancing guidelines. Most of these businesses are hanging on by a thread, rates and bills don't disappear behind closed doors. And the mental health of people throughout Ireland is being pushed to breaking point, most of us have had quite enough of Tony's glorified power trip and will rise up accordingly if reasonable concessions are not made soon.


  • #1560
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,360 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Deleted User wrote: »
    MM and Leo should tell him in no uncertain terms to f*ck off. Two days now where consecutive case numbers are under 300, one-quarter the tallies of three weeks ago. We have made the necessary sacrifices, now the Government need to hold up their end of the bargain. The pubs simply have to re-open on December 1st, subject to social distancing guidelines. Most of these businesses are hanging on by a thread, rates and bills don't disappear behind closed doors. And the mental health of people throughout Ireland is being pushed to breaking point, most of us have had quite enough of Tony's glorified power trip and will rise up accordingly if reasonable concessions are not made soon.

    No, they really won't. Maybe a satirical hashtag if we're really angry...


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  • #1561
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    I think MM and LEO will do their best to open up for Christmas.

    If the cases are steadily below 100 and R number around 0.5 on December 1st I think they will open up to Level 2 with strict rules for Bars/Restaurants, I would say tables will be limited to 4/6, table service only, only a mix of 3 families etc...

    I think they should open all retail (Level 3 without pubs/resaurants) on 26 November and go to Level 2 for December 7th.


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