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COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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  • #4892
    Van.Bosch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Pfizer VP Paul Duffy told
    @VirginMediaNews
    last week the company already had plans to manufacture 100m of these vaccines this year, and 1.3 billion by the end of 2021

    1.3 billion doses treats 650mln people as it’s a double dose.

    Still great news.


  • #4893
    what the hell!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭what the hell!


    Must be good if RTE are sending out the breaking news notification! They better have George Lee on the 6.1.


  • #4894
    manniot2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    trump will lose the head - 3 days after the election result haha


  • #4895
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Will take years to vaccinate everyone then

    Yes. But first world countries will get early access.

    Plus maybe other vaccine may come along like the Oxford one.


  • #4896
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    If the peer review of this does indeed come back at 90% then the whole 'waiting for second generation' of vaccines might be thrown out.


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  • #4897
    Floppybits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,003 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    celt262 wrote: »
    Roll up Roll up for the juice :pac:

    If it means an end to this lockdown crap and getting my life back to what it was not this new normal then where do I sign up?


  • #4898
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    1.3 billion doses treats 650mln people as it’s a double dose.

    Still great news.

    Imagine the US gets first pick and they are 300m so 600m vaccines.
    Don’t want to dampen this but they need to severely ramp up production to have any impact


  • #4899
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,997 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Good news...let's those bloody Mink don't mess things up!


  • #4900
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Imagine the US gets first pick and they are 300m so 600m vaccines.
    Don’t want to dampen this but they need to severely ramp up production to have any impact

    Pretty sure I replied to this a good while ago when you also said it.

    No they don't get first pick, production ramped up a long time ago.

    Supplies for USA manufactured there, European supplies to be manufactured in Germany and Belgium.


  • #4901
    Van.Bosch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Imagine the US gets first pick and they are 300m so 600m vaccines.
    Don’t want to dampen this but they need to severely ramp up production to have any impact

    They have already signed contracts with multiple governments with delivery schedules. Production sites in Germany & Belgium will assist EU.


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  • #4902
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    manniot2 wrote: »
    trump will lose the head - 3 days after the election result haha
    If you read the press release, it sounds like they potentially would have had results a few weeks ago but decided to wait until there were more results.

    "After discussion with the FDA, the companies recently elected to drop the 32-case interim analysis and conduct the first interim analysis at a minimum of 62 cases. "

    Going to be an interesting phone call from the White House to the head of the FDA (who is salvaging their reputation).


  • #4903
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Irish Stones wrote: »
    Truth is, according to this doctor, that no vaccine is near, that no data is available on Phase 3 of studies, so there is no official and sure rollout date yet.
    His words were that it is possible that something might be available late April, and anyway no end of pandemic is possible before beginning 2023.
    Those were his words.

    His words didn't age well thankfully!


  • #4904
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Pretty sure I replied to this a good while ago when you also said it.

    No they don't get first pick, production ramped up a long time ago.

    Supplies for USA manufactured there, European supplies to be manufactured in Germany and Belgium.

    Even so 1.3bn vaccines equals 650million people. That’s only 10% of the world’s population.
    Or can they licence the recipe out to other producers to further ramp up supply?


  • #4905
    one armed dwarf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    manniot2 wrote: »
    trump will lose the head - 3 days after the election result haha

    Yeah, just thinking of how this will fuel rabid theories of the whole thing being a hoax to oust him.


  • #4906
    kravmaga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    what the hell! wrote: »
    Must be good if RTE are sending out the breaking news notification! They better have George Lee on the 6.1.



    Virgin media also had it as a Breaking News item this morning.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1109/1176940-pfizer-covid-vaccine/

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/09/health/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-effective/index.html


  • #4907
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Sconsey wrote: »
    Pfizer's press release...

    https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-vaccine-candidate-against

    Read the first line of that and actually welled up!
    “Today is a great day for science and humanity. The first set of results from our Phase 3 COVID-19 vaccine trial provides the initial evidence of our vaccine’s ability to prevent COVID-19,” said Dr. Albert Bourla, Pfizer Chairman and CEO.

    I know caution is needed but **** me but what a christmas present that would be!!

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #4908
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    This is the moment all the lunatics descend on this thread. We've prepared for this, remember your training


  • #4909
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    hmmm wrote: »
    If you read the press release, it sounds like they potentially would have had results a few weeks ago but decided to wait until there were more results.

    "After discussion with the FDA, the companies recently elected to drop the 32-case interim analysis and conduct the first interim analysis at a minimum of 62 cases. "

    Going to be an interesting phone call from the White House to the head of the FDA (who is salvaging their reputation).

    Yeah, except "you'll never work in this town again" doesn't quiet cut it, when it is coming from a lame duck.

    Even if they did decide to wait for extra data for political reasons, who could blame then for not giving that science denying fúck a bail out.


  • #4910
    BrianD3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Pfizer share price up more than 14% in pre market trading. I'm not sure of the significance of pre market but if it is significant and if you subscribe to the idea that the market is wise, efficient and rational then....:eek: :D


  • #4911
    holdyerhorses
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 220 ✭✭holdyerhorses


    VG31 wrote: »
    Surely with 90% efficacy there should be zero excuse for restrictions on social distancing, masks, large gatherings etc not to be dropped (gradually of course)?

    You would hope. It really is fantastic news.

    On here, at least, it's immoral to talk of death, but for those 9 that didn't receive protection from the vaccine, are we saying that's ok now?


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  • #4912
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    kravmaga wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1109/1176940-pfizer-covid-vaccine/

    Love the damper in the last paragraph. The "for nothing" hyperbole, because you can't update an existing vaccine you have to start from scratch again. :rolleyes:


  • #4913
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    hmmm wrote: »
    If you read the press release, it sounds like they potentially would have had results a few weeks ago but decided to wait until there were more results.

    "After discussion with the FDA, the companies recently elected to drop the 32-case interim analysis and conduct the first interim analysis at a minimum of 62 cases. "

    Going to be an interesting phone call from the White House to the head of the FDA (who is salvaging their reputation).

    Didn't take long

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1325778096151203843?s=19


  • #4914
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    holdyerhorses wrote: »
    You would hope. It really is fantastic news.

    On here, at least, it's immoral to talk of death, but for those 9 that didn't receive protection from the vaccine, are we saying that's ok now?

    Yes, because if 90% of the pop. is immune then the virus dies out and most of these 9% never come into cantact with the virus.


  • #4915
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Is it looking like it gives Sterlising immunity?

    Waiting for Hmmzis analysis if this develoment


  • #4916
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    I know nothing about vaccines but since most people pick up and spread this disease asymptomatically, Will that still be happening after a vaccine, will it just stop people getting sick or will it actually stop the virus circulating?


  • #4917
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    I'm cautiously happy with this news, cautiously because the HSE are a national embarresment

    Probable rollout for Ireland timeline?

    2021

    Q1 - Frontline workers
    Q2 - Over 70s
    Q3 - Those with serious underlying symptoms
    Q4 - Everyone else

    Plus we only need a 50/60% uptake on it don't we?


  • #4918
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I'm cautiously happy with this news, cautiously because the HSE are a national embarresment

    Probable rollout for Ireland timeline?

    2021

    Q1 - Frontline workers
    Q2 - Over 70s
    Q3 - Those with serious underlying symptoms
    Q4 - Everyone else



    Plus we only need a 50/60% uptake on it don't we?
    Would hope a little quicker than Q3 for at risk groups


  • #4919
    holdyerhorses
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 220 ✭✭holdyerhorses


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    Yes, because if 90% of the pop. is immune then the virus dies out and most of these 9% never come into cantact with the virus.

    Er, no. Immunity is not sterilisation. If it was then there would be no flu, right?


  • #4920
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I'm cautiously happy with this news, cautiously because the HSE are a national embarresment

    Probable rollout for Ireland timeline?

    2021

    Q1 - Frontline workers
    Q2 - Over 70s
    Q3 - Those with serious underlying symptoms
    Q4 - Everyone else

    Plus we only need a 50/60% uptake on it don't we?

    If the HSE & Dept of health haven't got some sort of plan in place then heads should roll. They'll need defence forces logistics to give them help with it probably


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  • #4921
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    I stupidly just read the article and comments in The Journal!

    'Keep it'
    'Who's going to be the Guiney pigs?'
    'The sheep will take it'
    'So if we vaccinated all over Ireland only 490,000 people would get Covid/'

    The same ones protesting about restrictions will be protesting about this next!

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



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