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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭Akesh


    Free speech good. A member of government Independent politician actively undermining a scientific ADVISOR in a pandemic in pursuit of likes on Twitter is not. It’s stupid and reminiscent of a certain orange president.

    edit: thought he was FF sorry.

    Deleted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    It's definitely NOT the schools, definitely.

    Next week or so should tell us really...... they might not tell us the truth, but it’ll be obvious to see.
    If the numbers dip lower, I’d be sceptical whether the numbers will be kept artificially low to stop scrutiny of the schools or not. As the saying goes, statistics don’t lie but liars use statistics.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Progress showing early signs of slowing

    Dunno if it represents increased risk or not, but over last 2 weeks there is clearly a dramatic increase in people drinking take aways near enough to where they have got their pints from local pubs (not breaking any law), queuing outside coffee shops (not 2m apart) and shopping in 'essential' retail such as Harvey Norman etc (I was in Harveys today - it was like a normal pre-Covid Sunday in the computers/electrical dept.).

    I don't know if it impacts much or not on figures but we certainly didn't have as much congregation back in the original lockdowns, I remember Harvey Norman would bring people in one by one directly to the product they needed, there was no browsing.

    As for the drinking outside, if you're having a few scoops in groups of 8/9 as I've seen, I presume it's likely in some respect that some transmission could occur, even outside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,237 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    As of 2pm today, 283 COVID-19 patients are hospitalised, of which 39 are in ICU. There have been 13 additional hospitalisations in the past 24 hours.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I was "reliably" informed by the anti-school mob on this thread that cases would fall a lot this week due to the schools being closed last week (infections this week arise from contacts the previous week). Hasn't happened. Backs up that schools aren't a big factor

    Do you really think there is a 7 day "turnaround" between getting infected and getting the results of a test?

    I personally would not consider schools being a major issue, but there is nothing conclusive either way at this stage. Indeed if you accept a lot of kids who get this are likely to be asymptomatic it may well take the disease passing "through" a child and onto an adult before we see a material impact on reported figures, and that could involve a timelag of 3-4 weeks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Any idea of the 7 day average vs the previous 7 days.
    Gav Reilly just after posting it
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1325499982070378498?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    As of 2pm today, 283 COVID-19 patients are hospitalised, of which 39 are in ICU. There have been 13 additional hospitalisations in the past 24 hours.

    Increase of 2 since last night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    screamer wrote: »
    Next week or so should tell us really...... they might not tell us the truth, but it’ll be obvious to see.
    If the numbers dip lower, I’d be sceptical whether the numbers will be kept artificially low to stop scrutiny of the schools or not. As the saying goes, statistics don’t lie but liars use statistics.

    Jesus.... I think this is what 4 years of Trump had led to...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Jesus.... I think this is what 4 years of Trump had led to...

    Nothing to do with Trump, I just don’t blindly believe NPhet, look who is running it, and google the cervical check scandal. Then come back to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭alentejo


    3 weeks of level 5 remaining. Not a chance of average daily figures falling lower than 50 per day or even 100 per day


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    alentejo wrote: »
    3 weeks of level 5 remaining. Not a chance of average daily figures falling lower than 50 per day or even 100 per day

    Agreed :(

    I


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    alentejo wrote: »
    3 weeks of level 5 remaining. Not a chance of average daily figures falling lower than 50 per day or even 100 per day

    Regardless of what restrictions are in place, people will do as they please for Christmas.

    They simply won't be able to shut retail for Christmas either there'll simply be too much industry pressure as well as societal pressure.

    It'll definitely be a Christmas without pubs though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,216 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Playing politics with public health advice has worked out really, really well for the USA and Brazil !

    :rolleyes:

    Mr McNamara should cop on and shut up.

    McNamara is a dope playing to the gallery and spreading misinformation, so I have no problem with Nolan condescending to him with facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    alentejo wrote: »
    3 weeks of level 5 remaining. Not a chance of average daily figures falling lower than 50 per day or even 100 per day

    Personally it was never actually attainable I feel, many others said it at the time as well when the figure of 50 was mentioned.

    R being close to .5 looks possible but daily cases does not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    screamer wrote: »
    Nothing to do with Trump, I just don’t blindly believe NPhet, look who is running it, and google the cervical check scandal. Then come back to me.

    The cervical scandal was negligence. Your post implies you think they are deliberately going to hide cases to suit their agenda.

    Between the people who believe it is all fake and being used to control the population, and the others who think the government are hiding the "real" number of cases to keep schools open....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 220 ✭✭holdyerhorses


    It's definitely NOT the schools, definitely.

    I'm not sure if these posts are satire, but either way, isnt it completly obvious that schools drive infection? I mean the stats for hospitilisarions of under 24s is 6%, while they represent 36% of cases (0 deaths, 0 icu)... which is great.

    This is the decision as a society we have made, that schools are the priority, I really dont understand why the cases are a surprise and people are assumig nobody realises it's not going to transmit in schools?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 220 ✭✭holdyerhorses


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Regardless of what restrictions are in place, people will do as they please for Christmas.

    They simply won't be able to shut retail for Christmas either there'll simply be too much industry pressure as well as societal pressure.

    It'll definitely be a Christmas without pubs though.


    NPHET will not reccomend reduction in restriciton level, govt will agree, there will be announcements of vaccine or treatment in first week of December if not earlier, and everyone will sacrifice this Xmas with that knowledge. If a or multiple vaccines fail to be effective, then society will end the lockdowns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    mloc123 wrote: »
    The cervical scandal was negligence. Your post implies you think they are deliberately going to hide cases to suit their agenda.

    Between the people who believe it is all fake and being used to control the population, and the others who think the government are hiding the "real" number of cases to keep schools open....

    Off you go, knock yourself out slurping up bowls of NPHET number spaghetti, if you just want to believe that, that’s your look out. Governments can suppress and manipulate things any time to suit their own narrative. There are those of us who are more sceptical, and who don’t just take what we are fed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    screamer wrote: »
    Off you go, knock yourself out slurping up bowls of NPHET number spaghetti, if you just want to believe that, that’s your look out. Governments can suppress and manipulate things any time to suit their own narrative. There are those of us who are more sceptical, and who don’t just take what we are fed.

    :Facepalm:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    mloc123 wrote: »
    :Facepalm:

    Talk to the hand....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,355 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Who's the hottie that sits beside Tony?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,101 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    mloc123 wrote: »
    The cervical scandal was negligence. Your post implies you think they are deliberately going to hide cases to suit their agenda.

    Between the people who believe it is all fake and being used to control the population, and the others who think the government are hiding the "real" number of cases to keep schools open....

    Conspiracy theorists were given their biggest platform ever and now more people than ever are lapping up these "alternative"/"critical thinkers"/"sceptics" and whatever doesnt suit their new idea is just "fake news".


    It'll take a while for that sorta rubbish to go back underground again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Who's the hottie that sits beside Tony?

    Prof Phil Nolan, the beard is very becoming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Regardless of what restrictions are in place, people will do as they please for Christmas.

    They simply won't be able to shut retail for Christmas either there'll simply be too much industry pressure as well as societal pressure.

    It'll definitely be a Christmas without pubs though.

    Your ability to foretell the future is most impressive... :rolleyes:

    Was it the stars, spirits, tea leaves or casting entrails that told you this ?

    BTW I am un-reliably informed if you cast the entrail organs in alphabetical order… it will yield far more accurate predictions !

    ;)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,439 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Paddygreen do not post in this thread again


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    thelad95 wrote: »

    It'll definitely be a Christmas without pubs though.

    It shouldn't be. They should let pubs open in a responsible fashion, subject to very limited groups (even if that's 2 or 3 per table or from 2 families only etc.). There has to be some element of "living with covid" and opening them under circumstances where at least people can go and have a couple of jars, without allowing parties, would seem a resonable middle ground, and provide pubs with some income at this time of year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Paddygreen do not post in this thread again

    End of an era


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    D.Q wrote: »
    End of an era

    Will miss him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Personally it was never actually attainable I feel, many others said it at the time as well when the figure of 50 was mentioned.

    R being close to .5 looks possible but daily cases does not.

    If we are 500 a day atm and r being 0.5 we should be halting our case number every 2 weeks we won't come close to 50 a day.

    Imo there's too much of a cross border effect in some border counties and things aren't going down fast enough in Dublin. Too much travel in and out and too many offices staying open.


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