Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

caveat emptor · 08-11-2020 05:10PM

Field hospitals going up in Italy.

I remember at the start of this the army were saying we got rid of that capability in cuts.. Thankfully we don't need it

"This morning, in Perugia, in the area adjacent to the heliport of the Santa Maria della Misericordia Hospital, the operations to set up the field hospital by the Army, which accepted the request we made as the Umbria Region , through our Civil Protection, in order to ease the pressure on the regional health system, in the face of the increase in the number of hospitalizations of patients affected by COVID-19 ". This is what the regional councilor, Enrico Melasecche, takes the opportunity to thank, also on behalf of the president of the Region Donatella Tesei, the Italian Army for "the precious support it is offering to Umbria and the country, in this very difficult moment of emergency ".

https://twitter.com/StampaItaliaNew/status/1325420749931175944?s=20

wadacrack · 08-11-2020 05:22PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

And what then?

Follow what they have done in Asia/Aus/NZ until a vaccine Many scientists believe this to best approach. NI would need to do similar. That or another lockdown likely in March/April

prunudo · 08-11-2020 05:35PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Field hospitals going up in Italy. I remember at the start of this the army were saying we got rid of that capability in cuts.. Thankfully we don't need it

https://twitter.com/StampaItaliaNew/status/1325420749931175944?s=20

This pandemic has shown up short comings, especially in things that we were made cut during the financial crisis. So called experts from foreign countries telling us how great their models were and how we didn't need x,y, or z all the while with little understandings of the workings of Ireland and how just because something works on continental Europe it won't necessarily be the same in rural Ireland.

Rob A. Bank · 08-11-2020 05:36PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Follow what they have done in Asia/Aus/NZ until a vaccine Many scientists believe this to best approach. NI would need to do similar. That or another lockdown likely in March/April

I recall an Oxford academic saying that the successful Asian countries had a comprehensive coronavirus strategy ready, after their experience with SARS and MERS.

European countries just dusted off their flu pandemic strategies and hoped that that would contain the virus. It was arrogance of the first order not to follow proven 'best practice' and to believe that their way was better… our terrible figures now prove how wrong they were.

Australia and NZ had a choice as to which strategy to follow, and they wisely chose the Asian model.

Rob A. Bank · 08-11-2020 05:42PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Oh, I think level 5 is the right place to be right now and I hope it drives cases numbers down to a good low level.

Mr McNamara is no scientist and I disagree with what he is saying nearly all the time.

Playing politics with public health advice has worked out really, really well for the USA and Brazil !

:rolleyes:

Mr McNamara should cop on and shut up.

MerlinSouthDub · 08-11-2020 05:43PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Playing politics with public health advice has worked out really, really well for the USA and Brazil !

:rolleyes:

Mr McNamara should cop on and shut up.

Free speech isn't a bad thing. We make better decisions that way. (and we are making good decisions right now)

Philip Nolan shouldn't be playing politics, that's for sure.

caveat emptor · 08-11-2020 06:00PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Free speech isn't a bad thing. We make better decisions that way. (and we are making good decisions right now)

Philip Nolan shouldn't be playing politics, that's for sure.

Free speech good. A member of government Independent politician actively undermining a scientific ADVISOR in a pandemic in pursuit of likes on Twitter is not. It’s stupid and reminiscent of a certain orange president.

edit: thought he was FF sorry.

MerlinSouthDub · 08-11-2020 06:13PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Free speech good. A member of government actively undermining a scientific ADVISOR in a pandemic in pursuit of likes on Twitter is not. It’s stupid and reminiscent of a certain orange president.

McNamara is not a member of the government though.

(Apologies in advance if I have missed your point)

Plumbthedepths · 08-11-2020 06:13PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Free speech good. A member of government actively undermining a scientific ADVISOR in a pandemic in pursuit of likes on Twitter is not. It’s stupid and reminiscent of a certain orange president.

McNamara is not a member of government he is an elected representative and questioning the experts is part of his remit. The experts are not infallible. Holohan advised the nursing homes not to restrict visitors, he's an expert how did that work out?

caveat emptor · 08-11-2020 06:30PM

Thanks for letting me know. Thought FF, I've edited to reflect

Happydays2020 · 08-11-2020 06:50PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Free speech good. A member of government Independent politician actively undermining a scientific ADVISOR in a pandemic in pursuit of likes on Twitter is not. It’s stupid and reminiscent of a certain orange president.

edit: thought he was FF sorry.

It is good that the scientists are being challenged. It is not an exact science and the lock downs are not without other negative consequences.

I agree with level 5 and I think the Govt has got the timing right. Plus I think it is needed for 3 more weeks.

stephenjmcd · 08-11-2020 06:50PM

2 deaths, 542 cases.

14 day incidence down to 175.5

Gael23 · 08-11-2020 06:51PM

Disappointing number. Was hoping we were on a sustained downward trend

prunudo · 08-11-2020 06:51PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

2 deaths, 542 cases

Daily figures are fluctuating a lot. Hopefully they settle a bit more this week.

Dublin and Donegal still stubbornly high.

Happydays2020 · 08-11-2020 06:51PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

2 deaths, 542 cases

Any idea of the 7 day average vs the previous 7 days.

ACitizenErased · 08-11-2020 06:52PM

Of the cases notified today:

277 are men and 264 are women
64% are under 45 years of age
the median age is 35 years old
181 in Dublin, 59 in Donegal, 50 in Limerick, 36 in Cork, 25 in Kildare, and the remaining 191 cases are spread across 20 other counties

jaffa20 · 08-11-2020 06:53PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Disappointing number. Was hoping we were on a sustained downward trend

We are when you compare week by week changes.

Gael23 · 08-11-2020 06:53PM

Dublin is still very high

JP Liz V1 · 08-11-2020 06:53PM

Limerick high

screamer · 08-11-2020 06:56PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Disappointing number. Was hoping we were on a sustained downward trend

Not really, I think the NPHET expectations are too high, in that they want us to get to 50 to 100 cases a day by Dec 1st. With schools open, a lot of workplaces not doing WFH like in the first lockdown and crappy weather which helps covid to survive unlike the lovely sunshine we had in spring, I genuinely don’t think we’ll get to those low targets......

wadacrack · 08-11-2020 06:56PM

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1325496599733280769

vienne86 · 08-11-2020 06:56PM

Figures still very high for Dublin and Donegal. And sometimes big swings from day to day.

wadacrack · 08-11-2020 07:00PM

Progress showing early signs of slowing

prunudo · 08-11-2020 07:00PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Progress showing early signs of slowing

Must be because the schools are back :pac:

polesheep · 08-11-2020 07:01PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Progress showing early signs of slowing

I think the level of compliance with restrictions has peaked. They won't get any more from people so it looks like these kind of numbers are what we can expect until there is a vaccine.

Str8outtaWuhan · 08-11-2020 07:02PM

screamer wrote: »

Not really, I think the NPHET expectations are too high, in that they want us to get to 50 to 100 cases a day by Dec 1st. With schools open, a lot of workplaces not doing WFH like in the first lockdown and crappy weather which helps covid to survive unlike the lovely sunshine we had in spring, I genuinely don’t think we’ll get to those low targets......

It's definitely NOT the schools, definitely.

MerlinSouthDub · 08-11-2020 07:02PM

vienne86 wrote: »

Figures still very high for Dublin and Donegal. And sometimes big swings from day to day.

The reporting is all over the place. There was only 72 cases in Dublin yesterday.

Happydays2020 · 08-11-2020 07:04PM

polesheep wrote: »

I think the level of compliance with restrictions has peaked. They won't get any more from people so it looks like these kind of numbers are what we can expect until there is a vaccine.

Probably peaked but will hopefully stay at the peak. I think what is happening in parts of Europe is focusing minds.

MerlinSouthDub · 08-11-2020 07:05PM

prunudo wrote: »

Must be because the schools are back :pac:

I was "reliably" informed by the anti-school mob on this thread that cases would fall a lot this week due to the schools being closed last week (infections this week arise from contacts the previous week). Hasn't happened. Backs up that schools aren't a big factor

jaffa20 · 08-11-2020 07:07PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

It's definitely NOT the schools, definitely.

Thank you Dr Tony

Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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