Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

Trump is basically Gemma O'Doherty, except Americans bought into it.

schmoo2k wrote: »

It would also help if the Dems got their act together, this election could have been a slam dunk, but again they seem disorganised and IMO Biden is a poor candidate and I can't see him lasting 4 years (there will simply be too many senior moments), again IMO...

This election could turn out very good for the democrats yet. It is slow because of postal votes but could yet be a comfortable EC win. It is already a popular vote win.

fits wrote: »

Biden expected to overtake Trump in PA in 2-3 hours time

Margin in Georgia is now +1267 for Trump.

Down to 665 now!

Will Georgia and Penn keep counting throughout the night

Trump sounds physically exhausted. He's on the verge of a physical collapse.

fits wrote: »

What fraudulent votes?

This presidential election was entirely a referendum on Trump. It is irrelevant who he ran against, you know this because the Democrats failed to unseat incumbant Republicans in their senate and lost seats in their congress despite the billionaire class dumping $300 million in campaigns against them. Once the shouting is over Trump will go and the permanent goverment (aka the deep state) will be the winner. The US political system though will be gridlocked with neither side able to advance their agenda so a state of atrophy will be the result.

Trump may have lost the presidential election by slim margins, however, Trumpism is not going away and neither is the debt run up under his and previous administrations. Americans will have an empty suit as their president and a vice-president that only satisfies media virtue signalling (she was rejected during the DNC primaries). This election will leave a bitter aftertaste in both sides mouths. If the current outcome is not resolved lawfully, then one side is going to perceive the election was stolen from them and not trust future elections, it is clear that there is some level of fraud in the masil in votes but it is at the edges and it has always been there, most states are going to need to clean up their processes in advance of future elections otherise either side can dispute the results. The other side is not going to be happy either, because issues like healthcare are not going to be advanced by the current administration, they may be relieved Trump is gone, however the virus does not respect who runs the country. The media cannot blame the next black man killed by police on Trump and they can’t turn off the coronavirus panic. Does the virus suddenly go away because someone new is in the White House? The media will have a hard time putting Trump on the front page once he is gone, if they continue to do that then he casts a shadow over the incoming administration and they must take into account the significant number of the electorate that did not vote for Biden.

Some good things may come of this election cycle and that might be a dent in the identity politics narrative as the DNC and RNC comes to realise it alienates voters and cannot win future elections without appealing to enought of the other side. The noxious hate group ANTIFA have now outstayed their usefulness for the current election cycle and the state national guard have finally been called in on them in Oregon.


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1324416507854561282


What does a Biden presidency mean for the Irish state? Same as Trumps Nothing the American state has it's own internal problems to deal with, Ireland and Brexit are not one of them, of more signifucance to American foreign policy is containing the Sino-Russian alliance.

is_that_so wrote: »

Georgia seems to be and is now down to a gap of 600. Not 100% sure about PA.

Under 20k for PA now. Unsure how many are left in both states to count. I think about 14k for Georgia (plus military and some overseas which could break largely either way)

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

This presidential election was entirely a referendum on Trump. It is irrelevant who he ran against, you know this because the Democrats failed to unseat incumbant Republicans in their senate and lost seats in their congress despite the billionaire class dumping $300 million in campaigns against them. Once the shouting is over Trump will go and the permanent goverment (aka the deep state) will be the winner. The US political system though will be gridlocked with neither side able to advance their agenda so a state of atrophy will be the result.

Trump may have lost the presidential election by slim margins, however, Trumpism is not going away and neither is the debt run up under his and previous administrations. Americans will have an empty suit as their president and a vice-president that only satisfies media virtue signalling (she was rejected during the DNC primaries). This election will leave a bitter aftertaste in both sides mouths. If the current outcome is not resolved lawfully, then one side is going to perceive the election was stolen from them and not trust future elections, it is clear that there is some level of fraud in the masil in votes but it is at the edges and it has always been there, most states are going to need to clean up their processes in advance of future elections otherise either side can dispute the results. The other side is not going to be happy either, because issues like healthcare are not going to be advanced by the current administration, they may be relieved Trump is gone, however the virus does not respect who runs the country. The media cannot blame the next black man killed by police on Trump and they can’t turn off the coronavirus panic. Does the virus suddenly go away because someone new is in the White House? The media will have a hard time putting Trump on the front page once he is gone, if they continue to do that then he casts a shadow over the incoming administration and they must take into account the significant number of the electorate that did not vote for Biden.

Some good things may come of this election cycle and that might be a dent in the identity politics narrative as the DNC and RNC comes to realise it alienates voters and cannot win future elections without appealing to enought of the other side. The noxious hate group ANTIFA have now outstayed their usefulness for the current election cycle and the state national guard have finally been called in on them in Oregon.


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1324416507854561282


What does a Biden presidency mean for the Irish state? Same as Trumps Nothing the American state has it's own internal problems to deal with, Ireland and Brexit are not one of them, of more signifucance to American foreign policy is containing the Sino-Russian alliance.

Great post.
Nice to read a balanced opinion for once.

I agree with it, esp. the bit about the deep state.

robinph wrote: »

Less than a thousand votes difference for Georgia now. Trump is still awake and rage tweeting. Going to be any moment now that switches.

Won't be enough for 270... Unless he's watching Fox which still has Arizona for Biden.

Nothing in it 665 there now, I read somewhere last night that there's still 12,000 military votes to come in later as in the next few days, not sure if correct but they won't be able to call Georgia without them if it's this tight.