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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #8132
    HDMI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭HDMI


    robinph wrote: »
    If there was 1.2 million votes delivered by USPS in the days after the election don't you think that some employees would have tweeted photos of them all stacked up in the sorting office by now?

    There might be a couple delivered afterward, but the vast majority were already delivered, just they couldn't be processed purely because Trump was anticipating wanting something like this to whine about.

    I never mentioned 1.2 million votes and haven't a clue where you're getting that number from. Votes in PA can arrive until the 10th I believe as long as they are dated the 3rd. I believe Biden will win either way but I still think there will be a challenge, doesn't mean it will change the result.


  • #8133
    PalLimerick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭PalLimerick


    y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
    good nights folks, ill reconvene in the morrow!

    We all await you with anticipation.


  • #8134
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    sondagefaux wrote: »
    No idea, could be a way to protect himself from 'faithless' Electoral College voters who vote for Trump despite Biden winning a state.

    The EC voters will not do that. We saw in 2016 that they have the utmost integrity.


  • #8135
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    The EC voters will not do that. We saw in 2016 that they have the utmost integrity.

    No we didn’t


  • #8136
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,047 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Biden expected to overtake Trump in PA in 2-3 hours time

    Margin in Georgia is now +1267 for Trump.


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  • #8137
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    salmocab wrote: »
    No we didn’t


    Yes we did, perhaps you didn't though. There was massive pressure on them to vote against the democratically elected president, it was in the news for days



    l4Ve2sc.jpg


  • #8138
    francois
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭francois


    "An obese turtle on his back, flailing in the hot sun" - Anderson Cooper on Trump's rant last night


  • #8139
    sheeplover55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭sheeplover55


    ah ah ah

    d5qj96uw3jx51.jpg


  • #8140
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    HDMI wrote: »
    I never mentioned 1.2 million votes and haven't a clue where you're getting that number from. Votes in PA can arrive until the 10th I believe as long as they are dated the 3rd. I believe Biden will win either way but I still think there will be a challenge, doesn't mean it will change the result.

    That's the number of postal votes that Trump wants them to ignore and have been sitting around waiting to counted since election night.


  • #8141
    JimmiesRustled
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭JimmiesRustled


    Anyone else following the AP feed see the numbers in Georgia go up for Biden from 2,445,*** to 2,446,*** and then back again?

    Could've sworn I saw it at 2,446,*** before making my coffee and then reset again when I was drinking my coffee. Could still be half asleep though.


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  • #8142
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Hannity doubling down on Trump - so much Fraud!


  • #8143
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Yes we did, perhaps you didn't though. There was massive pressure on them to vote against the democratically elected president, it was in the news for days



    l4Ve2sc.jpg

    There were faithless electors in 2016


  • #8144
    PalLimerick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭PalLimerick


    This is my opinion and everyone has one.

    Biden will no doubt reach the 270. Trump will bring it to the SCOTUS and fraudulent votes will be discounted and entire states will be recounted under fair watch and Trump and Pence will win.

    I expect for some posters to ridicule me. I don't care.


  • #8145
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,047 ✭✭✭✭fits


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    This is my opinion and everyone has one.

    Biden will no doubt reach the 270. Trump will bring it to the SCOTUS and fraudulent votes will be discounted and entire states will be recounted under fair watch and Trump and Pence will win.

    I expect for some posters to ridicule me. I don't care.

    What fraudulent votes?


  • #8146
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,989 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    PalLimerick wrote:
    I expect for some posters to ridicule me. I don't care.

    Might be best to prepare yourself for disappointment, donnys out, Bidens in, this has been fairly obvious since Tuesday


  • #8147
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    This is my opinion and everyone has one.

    Biden will no doubt reach the 270. Trump will bring it to the SCOTUS and fraudulent votes will be discounted and entire states will be recounted under fair watch and Trump and Pence will win.

    I expect for some posters to ridicule me. I don't care.

    How many of these "fraudulent votes" do you think there will be that swings whole states to Trump?


  • #8148
    twinytwo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    This is my opinion and everyone has one.

    Biden will no doubt reach the 270. Trump will bring it to the SCOTUS and fraudulent votes will be discounted and entire states will be recounted under fair watch and Trump and Pence will win.

    I expect for some posters to ridicule me. I don't care.

    You know, just because Trump keeps repeating something does not make it true


  • #8149
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    This is my opinion and everyone has one.

    Biden will no doubt reach the 270. Trump will bring it to the SCOTUS and fraudulent votes will be discounted and entire states will be recounted under fair watch and Trump and Pence will win.

    I expect for some posters to ridicule me. I don't care.

    I agree there will be complete re-counts, but I don't think they will be able to find enough fraudulent votes to change the outcome (especially if NV, AZ, GA, PA go to Biden - he would need to reverse all of them).


  • #8150
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    How many of these "fraudulent votes" do you think there will be that swings whole states to Trump?

    All the ones for Biden


  • #8151
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    This is my opinion and everyone has one.

    Biden will no doubt reach the 270. Trump will bring it to the SCOTUS and fraudulent votes will be discounted and entire states will be recounted under fair watch and Trump and Pence will win.

    I expect for some posters to ridicule me. I don't care.
    You should, because you might learn something useful if you paid attention to what others have to say.

    While Trump and his fanboys have been banging on and on about fraudulent votes because they know people like you are gullible, none of the lawsuits that Trump has institituted allege that any fraudulent votes have been cast. This is because lawyers face disciplinary proceedings if they mount court proceedings on the basis of claims for which, it turns out, they have no evidence. There is no evidence that any fraudulent votes have been cast. Trump's public claims about this are strictly for the benefit of people who do not care whether they are true or not.

    So the Supreme Court will not be throwing out any fraudulent votes, because Trump is not claiming to the court that any fraudulent votes have been cast, and is not asking the court to exclude any fraudulent votes. So events will not unfold in accordance with your opinion.


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  • #8152
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    This is my opinion and everyone has one.

    Biden will no doubt reach the 270. Trump will bring it to the SCOTUS and fraudulent votes will be discounted and entire states will be recounted under fair watch and Trump and Pence will win.

    I expect for some posters to ridicule me. I don't care.

    Why would republican controlled states allow 1000s of fraudulent votes. It is ridiculous to suggest and extremely dangerous. Trump undermined America last night so much for his so called patriotism.
    How many Republican politician are supporting him?


  • #8153
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    fits wrote: »
    What fraudulent votes?

    There will be fraudulent votes (there always is) but very good chance they even themselves out (Dem and Rep).

    Trumps only hope is to get courts to declare mail in votes as invalid for pretty much all the battleground states (good luck with that).

    Unfortunately the baseless allegations Trump is spewing will end up costing folks their lives...


  • #8154
    Dressoutlet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Dressoutlet


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    This is my opinion and everyone has one.

    Biden will no doubt reach the 270. Trump will bring it to the SCOTUS and fraudulent votes will be discounted and entire states will be recounted under fair watch and Trump and Pence will win.

    I expect for some posters to ridicule me. I don't care.

    I'm not going to ridicule you, but I'd like to point out that he cannot just take a case to the SC, especially without any proof. There are plenty more things that need to be done before it goes to SC and that is only with proof, not somebodies word.

    He is already getting thrown out of court with his claims.


  • #8155
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    This is my opinion and everyone has one.

    Biden will no doubt reach the 270. Trump will bring it to the SCOTUS and fraudulent votes will be discounted and entire states will be recounted under fair watch and Trump and Pence will win.

    I expect for some posters to ridicule me. I don't care.

    There's a tiny little problem with that theory....there are no fraudulent votes.


  • #8156
    Dressoutlet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Dressoutlet


    joe40 wrote: »
    Why would republican controlled states allow 1000s of fraudulent votes. It is ridiculous to suggest and extremely dangerous. Trump undermined America last night so much for his so called patriotism.
    How many Republican politician are supporting him?

    Also, why would the Dems rig the election and leave a republican senate. I would say the Republicans wanted GOP and just not Trump, but with a record number of votes for Trump, I'd say more Dems just didn't want Trump


  • #8157
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,989 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    namloc1980 wrote:
    There's a tiny little problem with that theory....there are no fraudulent votes.


    To be fair, there probably is, but certainly not enough to change Bidens clear victory


  • #8158
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Maybe a sea of these types of statements?

    https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/1324511245635117056?s=19

    I was never a fan of Mittens before, but whether for optics or a genuine sense of political decency and due process, he has stood against Trumpian values for some time now. He was the only republican to vote to impeach him.

    If only more in that party could do the same, but we've seen how they view the political system as a game to be won and exploited rather than a chance to govern and lead a country's citizens as best they can.


  • #8159
    reg114
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭reg114


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    To be fair, there probably is, but certainly not enough to change Bidens clear victory

    Voter fraud in America is simply a myth.

    Justin Levitt, a law professor at Loyola Law School who tracks such cases, identified only 31 impersonation incidents between 2000 and 2014 across the country, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-voter-fraud-facts-explai-idUSKBN2601HG


  • #8160
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    I was never a fan of Mittens before, but whether for optics or a genuine sense of political decency and due process, he has stood against Trumpian values for some time now. He was the only republican to vote to impeach him.

    If only more in that party could do the same, but we've seen how they view the political system as a game to be won and exploited rather than a chance to govern and lead a country's citizens as best they can.

    It would also help if the Dems got their act together, this election could have been a slam dunk, but again they seem disorganised and IMO Biden is a poor candidate and I can't see him lasting 4 years (there will simply be too many senior moments), again IMO...


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  • #8161
    reg114
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭reg114


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    I was never a fan of Mittens before, but whether for optics or a genuine sense of political decency and due process, he has stood against Trumpian values for some time now. He was the only republican to vote to impeach him.

    If only more in that party could do the same, but we've seen how they view the political system as a game to be won and exploited rather than a chance to govern and lead a country's citizens as best they can.

    Romney did however support Trump's nomination of Amy Coney Barrett for the supreme court prior to the election despite the Republicans whingeing and moaning about democrats wanting to replace Justice Scalia when Obama was president.


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