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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • #2372
    letowski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭letowski


    Folks, I agree with Donald Trump, all counting must stop now, we are well beyond election day.

    .. because as things stand Biden wins!


  • #2373
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Not that it's looking like a possible scenario right now , but if that were the case who has the casting vote?

    I'd guess the leader of the House (Pelosi in this case ) but given how arcane and convoluted the US system seems to be , who knows?

    Why would there be a casting vote if one candidate has more electoral college votes from their 25 states?


  • #2374
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Biden's team optimistic.

    https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1324009424923611136


  • #2375
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,796 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    270-268 seems the likeliest outcome in favour of Biden, assumes MI, WI, AZ, NV got to Biden, that Trump wins Nebraska 4-1 and Biden wins Maine 3-1, and also Trump holds PA.


  • #2376
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Biden's team optimistic.

    https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1324009424923611136

    Google's trackers has Biden on 238, if I am corre t those first three states would land him on exactly 270 meaning none of the others would be needed.


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  • #2377
    Kur4mA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭Kur4mA


    Arizona is only 84% of votes counted (according to The Associated Press) or 86% according to NBC. It's not in the bag yet for Biden.


  • #2378
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    PA could become the kingmaker here.

    Nevada is very tight. If it was to swing back to Trump, PA stayed with Trump and no other states flipped, then Trump has it.

    The confidence of Biden's team (and noise from Trump's) suggests that their accountants don't see Nevada going with Trump.


  • #2379
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Governor of Pennsylvania making a speech right now affirming that every vote will be counted and they will strongly resist any outside influences which attempt to delegitimize the democratic process.

    Very strong statement from him.


  • #2380
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Kur4mA wrote: »
    Arizona is only 84% of votes counted (according to The Associated Press) or 86% according to NBC. It's not in the bag yet for Biden.

    it is
    based on where the votes are left, huge dem numbers left and mail in voters


  • #2381
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I think Biden's going to take Pensylvannia too.


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  • #2382
    OneColdHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,530 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    Google's trackers has Biden on 238, if I am corre t those first three states would land him on exactly 270 meaning none of the others would be needed.

    Yes that's right.


  • #2383
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Nearly everything left is vote-by-mail.

    There is simply no way you can make that call. Nearly everything left in Georgia is in Atlanta.

    Both vote by mail and Atlanta typically lean democrat so it's not an unreasonable call.

    Added, ignore me, I re-read the post you were responding to.


  • #2384
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,485 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Kur4mA wrote: »
    Arizona is only 84% of votes counted (according to The Associated Press) or 86% according to NBC. It's not in the bag yet for Biden.


    Fox have called it for Biden and everyone im looking at has it at 99%, there's definitely some confusion here and id like to know whats happening


  • #2385
    rameire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭rameire


    Based on the finer details within Arizona I dont believe the 99% is correct.
    I believe it is in the 86%.

    for example for Maricopa County it is saying 86% counted.
    that leaves 262960 votes to be counted in that county alone.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • #2386
    Infini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Infini


    seamus wrote: »
    PA could become the kingmaker here.

    Nevada is very tight. If it was to swing back to Trump, PA stayed with Trump and no other states flipped, then Trump has it.

    The confidence of Biden's team (and noise from Trump's) suggests that their accountants don't see Nevada going with Trump.

    Not 100% but Nevadas remaining votes are from the Vegas Region if im not mistaken and mail votes, that would solidify Bidens lead would it not?


  • #2387
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    it is
    based on where the votes are left, huge dem numbers left and mail in voters
    Yeah, just looking at that. Virtually all of the votes left to count in Nevada are in places that favour Biden.


  • #2388
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Graham wrote: »
    Both vote by mail and Atlanta typically lean democrat so it's not an unreasonable call.

    What? I think you’re agreeing with me here...


  • #2389
    Canice Picklington
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Canice Picklington


    seamus wrote: »
    PA could become the kingmaker here.

    Nevada is very tight. If it was to swing back to Trump, PA stayed with Trump and no other states flipped, then Trump has it.

    The confidence of Biden's team (and noise from Trump's) suggests that their accountants don't see Nevada going with Trump.

    I can't see why the large outstanding mail in vote from Clark and Washoe counties would do anything other than break heavily for Biden.


  • #2390
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,505 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Kur4mA wrote: »
    Arizona is only 84% of votes counted (according to The Associated Press) or 86% according to NBC. It's not in the bag yet for Biden.

    It kind of is though, the vast majority of those votes are coming from Tuscon and Pheonix which are skewed blue.


  • #2391
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Fox have called it for Biden and everyone im looking at has it at 99%, there's definitely some confusion here and id like to know whats happening

    Look at where the remaining votes are, huge dem hubs


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  • #2392
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324007806694023169

    This is hilarious from the Donald, even by his standard.

    He called postal voting open to fraud and encouraged Republicans not to use it and vote in person which his supporters followed.

    States counted in person votes first thus giving him good numbers.

    Postal votes after which are still ongoing and showing huge numbers for Democrats who followed advice and use the system rather than risk Covid at polling stations.

    Why is he now surprised that postal votes are going against him?


  • #2393
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Faugheen wrote: »
    What? I think you’re agreeing with me here...

    You're right, sorry Faugheen. I am agreeing.


  • #2394
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,370 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Unsubstantiated claims of illegal activity intended to discredit a result one does not like is trolling. Post and response deleted.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #2395
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Graham wrote: »
    You're right, sorry Faugheen. I am agreeing.

    Haha. No worries. I’m sleep deprived too.


  • #2396
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    seamus wrote: »
    PA could become the kingmaker here.

    Nevada is very tight. If it was to swing back to Trump, PA stayed with Trump and no other states flipped, then Trump has it.

    The confidence of Biden's team (and noise from Trump's) suggests that their accountants don't see Nevada going with Trump.

    Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan are really going his way and that gets Biden to 270.

    PA would be an absoute bonus that would make limit Trump's legal options. I think Biden has a huge chance there.

    Also, I wouldn't rule out Georgia either as Democrat hubs are still to return votes there too.


  • #2397
    2ndcoming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    SNIP. Take it to the gambling forum please.


  • #2398
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,485 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    This at least explains whats happening in Arizona in the different data that is being shown


    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1324011428030771200


  • #2399
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    VinLieger wrote: »
    This at least explains whats happening in Arizona in the different data that is being shown


    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1324011428030771200

    Still doesn’t make Trumps ‘predictions’ any more logical based on data


  • #2400
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    murpho999 wrote: »

    Why is he now surprised that postal votes are going against him?

    He's not surprised. It was the plan all along.

    If anything this is one moment of Trump actually showing some level of forethought and planning in anything that hes ever done. Sow distrust of the mail in system, know that states will count in person votes first, encourage republicans to vote in person, then when the early votes show red but then switch to blue as the mail votes start to get counted declare cheating.

    It was all by design.


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  • #2401
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


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    Trump going mad at this, 128k votes added for Biden, 0 for everyone else.

    I am guessing this is just a case of the spreadsheet being updated on a cell by cell basis?


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