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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

Quin_Dub

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letowski

Folks, I agree with Donald Trump, all counting must stop now, we are well beyond election day.

.. because as things stand Biden wins!

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Not that it's looking like a possible scenario right now , but if that were the case who has the casting vote?

I'd guess the leader of the House (Pelosi in this case ) but given how arcane and convoluted the US system seems to be , who knows?

Why would there be a casting vote if one candidate has more electoral college votes from their 25 states?

Mr.Nice Guy

Biden's team optimistic.

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1324009424923611136

Inquitus

270-268 seems the likeliest outcome in favour of Biden, assumes MI, WI, AZ, NV got to Biden, that Trump wins Nebraska 4-1 and Biden wins Maine 3-1, and also Trump holds PA.

Carfacemandog

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Biden's team optimistic.

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1324009424923611136

Google's trackers has Biden on 238, if I am corre t those first three states would land him on exactly 270 meaning none of the others would be needed.

Kur4mA

Arizona is only 84% of votes counted (according to The Associated Press) or 86% according to NBC. It's not in the bag yet for Biden.

seamus

PA could become the kingmaker here.

Nevada is very tight. If it was to swing back to Trump, PA stayed with Trump and no other states flipped, then Trump has it.

The confidence of Biden's team (and noise from Trump's) suggests that their accountants don't see Nevada going with Trump.

dark crystal

Governor of Pennsylvania making a speech right now affirming that every vote will be counted and they will strongly resist any outside influences which attempt to delegitimize the democratic process.

Very strong statement from him.

bennyl10

Kur4mA wrote: »

Arizona is only 84% of votes counted (according to The Associated Press) or 86% according to NBC. It's not in the bag yet for Biden.

it is
based on where the votes are left, huge dem numbers left and mail in voters

murpho999

I think Biden's going to take Pensylvannia too.

OneColdHand

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Google's trackers has Biden on 238, if I am corre t those first three states would land him on exactly 270 meaning none of the others would be needed.

Yes that's right.

Graham

Faugheen wrote: »

Nearly everything left is vote-by-mail.

There is simply no way you can make that call. Nearly everything left in Georgia is in Atlanta.

Both vote by mail and Atlanta typically lean democrat so it's not an unreasonable call.

Added, ignore me, I re-read the post you were responding to.

VinLieger

Kur4mA wrote: »

Arizona is only 84% of votes counted (according to The Associated Press) or 86% according to NBC. It's not in the bag yet for Biden.

Fox have called it for Biden and everyone im looking at has it at 99%, there's definitely some confusion here and id like to know whats happening

rameire

Based on the finer details within Arizona I dont believe the 99% is correct.
I believe it is in the 86%.

for example for Maricopa County it is saying 86% counted.
that leaves 262960 votes to be counted in that county alone.

Infini

seamus wrote: »

PA could become the kingmaker here.

Nevada is very tight. If it was to swing back to Trump, PA stayed with Trump and no other states flipped, then Trump has it.

The confidence of Biden's team (and noise from Trump's) suggests that their accountants don't see Nevada going with Trump.

Not 100% but Nevadas remaining votes are from the Vegas Region if im not mistaken and mail votes, that would solidify Bidens lead would it not?

seamus

bennyl10 wrote: »

it is
based on where the votes are left, huge dem numbers left and mail in voters

Yeah, just looking at that. Virtually all of the votes left to count in Nevada are in places that favour Biden.

Faugheen

Graham wrote: »

Both vote by mail and Atlanta typically lean democrat so it's not an unreasonable call.

What? I think you’re agreeing with me here...

Canice Picklington

seamus wrote: »

PA could become the kingmaker here.

Nevada is very tight. If it was to swing back to Trump, PA stayed with Trump and no other states flipped, then Trump has it.

The confidence of Biden's team (and noise from Trump's) suggests that their accountants don't see Nevada going with Trump.

I can't see why the large outstanding mail in vote from Clark and Washoe counties would do anything other than break heavily for Biden.

Retr0gamer

Kur4mA wrote: »

Arizona is only 84% of votes counted (according to The Associated Press) or 86% according to NBC. It's not in the bag yet for Biden.

It kind of is though, the vast majority of those votes are coming from Tuscon and Pheonix which are skewed blue.

bennyl10

VinLieger wrote: »

Fox have called it for Biden and everyone im looking at has it at 99%, there's definitely some confusion here and id like to know whats happening

Look at where the remaining votes are, huge dem hubs

murpho999

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324007806694023169

This is hilarious from the Donald, even by his standard.

He called postal voting open to fraud and encouraged Republicans not to use it and vote in person which his supporters followed.

States counted in person votes first thus giving him good numbers.

Postal votes after which are still ongoing and showing huge numbers for Democrats who followed advice and use the system rather than risk Covid at polling stations.

Why is he now surprised that postal votes are going against him?

Graham

Faugheen wrote: »

What? I think you’re agreeing with me here...

You're right, sorry Faugheen. I am agreeing.

ancapailldorcha

Unsubstantiated claims of illegal activity intended to discredit a result one does not like is trolling. Post and response deleted.

Faugheen

Graham wrote: »

You're right, sorry Faugheen. I am agreeing.

Haha. No worries. I’m sleep deprived too.

murpho999

seamus wrote: »

PA could become the kingmaker here.

Nevada is very tight. If it was to swing back to Trump, PA stayed with Trump and no other states flipped, then Trump has it.

The confidence of Biden's team (and noise from Trump's) suggests that their accountants don't see Nevada going with Trump.

Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan are really going his way and that gets Biden to 270.

PA would be an absoute bonus that would make limit Trump's legal options. I think Biden has a huge chance there.

Also, I wouldn't rule out Georgia either as Democrat hubs are still to return votes there too.

2ndcoming

SNIP. Take it to the gambling forum please.

VinLieger

This at least explains whats happening in Arizona in the different data that is being shown

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1324011428030771200

bennyl10

VinLieger wrote: »

This at least explains whats happening in Arizona in the different data that is being shown

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1324011428030771200

Still doesn’t make Trumps ‘predictions’ any more logical based on data

robinph

murpho999 wrote: »

Why is he now surprised that postal votes are going against him?

He's not surprised. It was the plan all along.

If anything this is one moment of Trump actually showing some level of forethought and planning in anything that hes ever done. Sow distrust of the mail in system, know that states will count in person votes first, encourage republicans to vote in person, then when the early votes show red but then switch to blue as the mail votes start to get counted declare cheating.

It was all by design.

Francie Barrett

Trump going mad at this, 128k votes added for Biden, 0 for everyone else.

I am guessing this is just a case of the spreadsheet being updated on a cell by cell basis?