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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • #2012
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    MJohnston wrote: »
    Where are you seeing that? I thought they were done counting for the day

    Just popped up on CNN.


  • #2013
    TP_CM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭TP_CM


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    We have a whole thread devoted to Trump that's in its 12th iteration and he's done so much good that you've never darkened its door to tell us all about it.

    Amazing how the rats have suddenly returned to the ship in the last couple of hours.

    Christ Bonnie!


  • #2014
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,699 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Do we have any idea of when the swing states will have the vote by mail done?


  • #2015
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,665 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    People are dreaming, CNN trying to not declare anything, lets just squeeze another few hours, another few minutes with this dream of winning. Tears in their eyes. It's done, Trump won, and got more votes than last time.

    Christ Toby... and I thought your Liverpool posts were nuts! :pac:

    So far from done right now, and if I had to pick a winner from what where are are currently, it’d be Biden.


  • #2016
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    deathbomber wrote: »
    Trumps little accusational speech earlier really seals it for me, they know, Biden has to have it
    That's what I'm thinking.

    The Republican number-crunchers are either calling it for Biden or calling it way to close to call.

    If they had any confidence that Trump had it in the bag, he wouldn't have tried to claim that the count needs to stop.


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  • #2017
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I'm just saying it's done, same way the polls had Trump far far behind in PA, MH,OH.

    His path is so much easier right now, while yesterday Biden had 400 paths, and Trump has 3. Exaggerated , but you get me.

    Trump has one path. Win all the states in the rust belt.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #2018
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    TP_CM wrote: »
    Christ Bonnie!

    Apologies. It's in its 8th iteration.


  • #2019
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Hawkeye9212 wrote: »
    The Senate isn't ridiculous. Dems used to win seats in rural states but then they decided to swing left and lose all of it.

    Republicans have an in built advantage in the senate. Overall if every state was to run Senate elections on the same night, ,they would probably need to win at least 53-47 on national basis to win a majority of seats. The fact that this advantage was once in favour of the Democrats is irrelevant, its bad for democracy. A simple step could be taken to correct it however - Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico. No way the republicans would allow this however, disenfranchising large numbers of US citizens is one of their key values at this stage


  • #2020
    Brussels Sprout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Went to bed for 4 hours and it looks like the only state to be called in the intervening time was Maine?


  • #2021
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,079 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Michigan numbers are looking good for Biden, Detroit is in and Trump's advantage down to just 1.5, more votes likely to swing Democrat.


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  • #2022
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Republicans have an in built advantage in the senate. Overall if every state was to run Senate elections on the same night, ,they would probably need to win at least 53-47 on national basis to win a majority of seats. The fact that this advantage was once in favour of the Democrats is irrelevant, its bad for democracy. A simple step could be taken to correct it however - Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico. No way the republicans would allow this however, disenfranchising large numbers of US citizens is one of their key values at this stage

    Statehood for DC is stupid. Dems should just figure out how to win in rural states again.


  • #2023
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Over 210,000 postal votes still to be counted in Philly, and a decent chunk of those are expected to be for Biden.

    Probably still not enough though.


  • #2024
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Hawkeye9212 wrote: »
    Statehood for DC is stupid. Dems should just figure out how to win in rural states again.

    Why do citizens of DC not get to elect Senators, and what about Puerto Rico?


  • #2025
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why do citizens of DC not get to elect Senators, and what about Puerto Rico?

    Because they would vote blue.


  • #2026
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Hawkeye9212 wrote: »
    Statehood for DC is stupid. Dems should just figure out how to win in rural states again.
    Give DC senators. Reps should figure out how to win big cities.

    I get Republicans seem to not like Democrats voting but it is weird that there are US citizens not at all represented in the senate.


  • #2027
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Why do citizens of DC not get to elect Senators, and what about Puerto Rico?

    DC is a federal district. Puerto Rico is a territory and they have apply for statehood.


  • #2028
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,815 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Kiith wrote: »
    Because they would vote blue.

    Pretty much. It's horrifying that so many people are content with suppresing the votes of people they disagree with.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #2029
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Give DC senators. Reps should figure out how to win big cities.

    I get Republicans seem to not like Democrats voting but it is weird that there are US citizens not at all represented in the senate.

    Reps don't need to win in big cities if they have the suburbs.


  • #2030
    Loughc
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    Brian? wrote: »
    Anyone with this level of certainty has no clue what they’re talking about.

    It can go either way.

    Honest question here, I honestly don't have a clue nor do I pretend to, how can it go either way, from what I can see Trump is leading in most of the larger remaining electoral votes states, will that not be enough to push him over the line?

    I can only see Biden ahead in NV, WI, AZ, which are low enough electoral votes.


  • #2031
    johnmcdnl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    I don't usually follow the entire results of US elections but I've been flicking through all the stations to get a feel for what the left and right wing stations are saying, and keeping it on in the background since the very start.
    It's really startling how little if any coverage is being given to the Congress elections, even as filler content.

    Is the level of interest in filling of congress seats always this low or is this a side effect of the Trump show?


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  • #2032
    Kur4mA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Kur4mA


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Really? Who should we be watching then?

    The Associated Press https://www.google.com/search?q=us+presidential+election+2020
    ABC News https://abcnews.go.com/Elections/2020-us-presidential-election-results-live-map
    The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/nov/03/us-election-2020-live-results-donald-trump-joe-biden-who-won-presidential-republican-democrat


  • #2033
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Loughc wrote: »
    Honest question here, I honestly don't have a clue nor do I pretend to, how can it go either way, from what I can see Trump is leading in most of the larger remaining electoral votes states, will that not be enough to push him over the line?

    I can only see Biden ahead in NV, WI, AZ, which are low enough electoral votes.

    The only real question now is how many of the uncounted votes are mail in votes, which heavily favour Biden. Mail in votes are counted last in many areas.

    Those may push him ahead in some key areas.


  • #2034
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,768 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    People are dreaming, CNN trying to not declare anything, lets just squeeze another few hours, another few minutes with this dream of winning. Tears in their eyes. It's done, Trump won, and got more votes than last time.

    You're skewing info.

    Biden so far has gotten more votes than Clinton in 2016.

    He has 68.7m compared to Clinton's 65.8 and there's lots more to come.

    Trump's vote now at 66.5m compared to 62.9 in 2016.

    It reflects higher turnout more than anything and Biden is going to win the irrelevant popular vote.


  • #2035
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    Michigan is close now. Detroit just reported.


  • #2036
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,768 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Loughc wrote: »
    Honest question here, I honestly don't have a clue nor do I pretend to, how can it go either way, from what I can see Trump is leading in most of the larger remaining electoral votes states, will that not be enough to push him over the line?

    I can only see Biden ahead in NV, WI, AZ, which are low enough electoral votes.

    He has chances in Michigan and Georgia as votes from large urban Democratic strongholds and postal votes which are supposed to be mostly for Democrats are still to come in.


  • #2037
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,699 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Trump is only 64 thousand ahead in Michigan, so Biden is catching up


  • #2038
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Hawkeye9212 wrote: »
    Michigan is close now. Detroit just reported.

    Is it enough? Could be just about enough.

    Michigan+Wi+NV+Az= President Biden

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #2039
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Trump is only 60k ahead in Michigan.


  • #2040
    Hawkeye9212
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Hawkeye9212


    Brian? wrote: »
    Is it enough? Could be just about enough.

    Michigan+Wi+NV+Az= President Biden

    Maybe. Still a lot of mail ballots to be counted but Dems are in a much better position now.


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  • #2041
    ExMachina1000
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    Kur4mA wrote: »
    The Associated Press https://www.google.com/search?q=us+presidential+election+2020
    ABC News https://abcnews.go.com/Elections/2020-us-presidential-election-results-live-map
    The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/nov/03/us-election-2020-live-results-donald-trump-joe-biden-who-won-presidential-republican-democrat

    AP is a great choice. Personally I think the guardian is garbage but each to their own


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