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FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

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    #1862
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    If Leo goes as leader, Simon or Paschal take over?

    They'll have to drag Leo out kicking and screaming.


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    #1863
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Jesus Pearse Doherty rattled him. Stutterin' and splutterin'. Machevilian my hole!


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    #1864
    Idbatterim
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    Bowie wrote: »
    They'll have to drag Leo out kicking and screaming.

    Jesus, I thought it couldnt get worse than Varadkar, those two are probably the most marginal improvements, two boyscouts! This country needs a proper leader, no wonder the country is in the state it is in, when you see what runs for office here!


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    #1865
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    smurgen wrote: »
    Jesus Pearse Doherty rattled him. Stutterin' and splutterin'. Machevilian my hole!

    Pearse rattled back.


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    #1866
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Pearse needs to stop getting so angry. It's a bad look.


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    #1867
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Pearse needs to stop getting so angry. It's a bad look.

    He's usually good.

    But he was aggressive and wrong on so many levels.

    Noone likes finger pointing and agreession unless you're a thug.

    Much easier ways to get your point across.


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    #1868
    Truthvader
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Bowie wrote: »
    Just to clarify, you came across like you were surprised/amazed that anyone could believe FF were performing well. We'd numerous posts on FG playing a blinder too. Just pointing out it's not the first time we've had such, IMO, unfounded beliefs.
    I believe when MM got the job he was happy, job done. He doesn't seem to have much vigor and certainly no interest in causing an election. Leo won't be held over hot coals by anyone in FF or the Greens.
    This is why we need a vocal opposition. Whatever the agenda or bias, we need someone to ask questions and hold people to account. If only to stop TD's making a fool of themselves or putting trust in government into question, that's beside any findings or suspicions of conscious wrong doing.

    Sadly we already have a "vocal opposition" which is useless. The opposition at the moment is a fragmented collection of Healy Rea/ Boyd Barrett crazies plus the thug/ moron Sinn Fein crew. What we actually need is a thoughtful considered left wing opposition. All we have now are loud mouth thugs or loons. A vocal opposition indeed


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    #1869
    Idbatterim
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    Truthvader wrote: »
    Sadly we already have a "vocal opposition" which is useless. The opposition at the moment is a fragmented collection of Healy Rea/ Boyd Barrett crazies plus the thug/ moron Sinn Fein crew. What we actually need is a thoughtful considered left wing opposition. All we have now are loud mouth thugs or loons. A vocal opposition indeed

    that may be true, but the current options in government, are also a disgrace!


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    #1870
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,439 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Sadly we already have a "vocal opposition" which is useless. The opposition at the moment is a fragmented collection of Healy Rea/ Boyd Barrett crazies plus the thug/ moron Sinn Fein crew. What we actually need is a thoughtful considered left wing opposition. All we have now are loud mouth thugs or loons. A vocal opposition indeed

    Tough day Truth?

    There were stand out performances across the opposition benches today. That is why the concensus among most journalists is that Varadkar is badly damaged and that this is not over just yet.


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    #1871
    Truthvader
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Tough day Truth?

    There were stand out performances across the opposition benches today. That is why the concensus among most journalists is that Varadkar is badly damaged and that this is not over just yet.

    "Stand out performances." Good man. Keep saying it and it will be true. Pearse, ?Boyd Barrett, ?the Healy Rae Laurel and Hardy Show? Terrifying


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    #1872
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Tough day Truth?

    There were stand out performances across the opposition benches today. That is why the concensus among most journalists is that Varadkar is badly damaged and that this is not over just yet.

    Stuttering away when Pearse got to him. Like Spider in Goodfellas.


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    #1873
    FrancieBrady
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    Truthvader wrote: »
    "Stand out performances." Good man. Keep saying it and it will be true. Pearse, ?Boyd Barrett, ?the Healy Rae Laurel and Hardy Show? Terrifying

    Pearse Doherty, A O'Riordan, Paul Murphy, Catherine Connolly and Peadar Toibin all put pressure on Varadkar today and Varadkar has been badly damaged by it. A lame duck leader in effect.

    Exactly what you would expect of an opposition.


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    #1874
    tobsey
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Tough day Truth?

    There were stand out performances across the opposition benches today. That is why the concensus among most journalists is that Varadkar is badly damaged and that this is not over just yet.

    They were shooting fish in a barrel. It was the easiest day in opposition they’ll have. Plenty of journalists saying varadkar is wounded alright. I don’t think it’s fatal. Who’s saying it’s not over yet though?


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    #1875
    Idbatterim
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    listen, varadkar soared in opinion polls recently, despite his abject failure for years as leader of this country and during a boom! the irish electorate are fickle idiots, you cant be bad unless you are a sf or renua bogey man...


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    #1876
    FrancieBrady
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    tobsey wrote: »
    They were shooting fish in a barrel. It was the easiest day in opposition they’ll have. Plenty of journalists saying varadkar is wounded alright. I don’t think it’s fatal. Who’s saying it’s not over yet though?

    Any of the commentators I heard tonight and on the political programmes on radio.
    The Village says it will have more tomorrow too. There will be more questions.


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    #1877
    blanch152
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Any of the commentators I heard tonight and on the political programmes on radio.
    The Village says it will have more tomorrow too. There will be more questions.

    The Village appear to have shot their load, looking less credible with every tweet.

    Maybe there is something more, but I get the sense they are bluffing.


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    #1878
    FrancieBrady
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    blanch152 wrote: »
    The Village appear to have shot their load, looking less credible with every tweet.

    Maybe there is something more, but I get the sense they are bluffing.

    You were saying that a few days ago too. Yet, Leo had to explain for two hours to an incredulous Dáil.

    I don't think I have ever seen a leader take that much punishment ever. Unprecedented and nobody knows if he'll have to come back for more or not.


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    #1879
    smurgen
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    After today's blinder you'd have to wonder if Leo is an undercover shinner. Man is taking down FG from the inside!


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    #1880
    JohnnyFlash
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    Leo will be grand, lads. Top class politician. Get your own houses in order first. He's not going anywhere.

    The problem for us blueshirts is deciding on the next leader when that happens. So much talent. Coveney, McEntee, Donohoe, Harris.


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    #1881
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Leo will be grand, lads. Top class politician. Get your own houses in order first. He's not going anywhere.

    The problem for us blueshirts is deciding on the next leader when that happens. So much talent. Coveney, McEntee, Donohoe, Harris.

    McEntee - was reasonable enough in Brexit related stuff in her last gig, woefully out of her depth in Justice. Only got to where she is because her father.

    Donohoe is one of the FG crew I actually don't mind, comes across as being a little bit too nice at times, too nice for leader, and I believe he has openly said he doesn't want the job as leader and wouldn't take it.

    Harris. He's also woefully out of his depth, covid 18, and he brought the last govt down, enough said.

    Coveney, arguably should have been leader last time, but FG decided Leo being mixed race gay son of an immigrant was probably trendier and then imply anyone who mentions that fact is a racist or homophobic.

    2/4 of the talent you listed there would finish the party for good as leaders I reckon.


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    #1882
    [Deleted User]
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    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Leo will be grand, lads. Top class politician. Get your own houses in order first. He's not going anywhere.

    He may be a top class debator etc....but he is most deffo corrupt

    Catherine connolly and thomas pringle nailed it on the head,he bought off a protest campaign less than a month before local/euro elections


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    #1883
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,177 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    McMurphy wrote: »
    McEntee - was reasonable enough in Brexit related stuff in her last gig, woefully out of her depth in Justice. Only got to where she is because her father.

    Donohoe is one of the FG crew I actually don't mind, comes across as being a little bit too nice at times, too nice for leader, and I believe he has openly said he doesn't want the job as leader and wouldn't take it.

    Harris. He's also woefully out of his depth, covid 18, and he brought the last govt down, enough said.

    Coveney, arguably should have been leader last time, but FG decided Leo being mixed race gay son of an immigrant was probably trendier and then imply anyone who mentions that fact is a racist or homophobic.

    2/4 of the talent you listed there would finish the party for good as leaders I reckon.

    Meanwhile Wardy16 is waiting in the wings, and Gino and ‘Up the Ra’ and motor mouth O’Reilly!!!


    You havin a laugh, a chara.


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    #1884
    McMurphy
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    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Meanwhile Wardy16 is waiting in the wings, and Gino and ‘Up the Ra’ and motor mouth O’Reilly!!!


    You havin a laugh, a chara.

    2 things to point out here Brenner, you're trying to turn another thread into a SF thread, and I don't believe MLMDsnJob is in jeopardy, so not sure why you even mentioned that B.
    Your input has been entertaining though as per. :D


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    #1885
    Brendan Bendar
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    McMurphy wrote: »
    2 things to point out here Brenner, you're trying to turn another thread into a SF thread, and I don't believe MLMD job is in jeopardy.

    Your input has been entertaining though as per. :D

    Incorrect Randal, merely pointing out in response, the total paucity of the opposition and the lack of willingness to get involved in government.

    As Minister Collins said ‘Preferring to sit back and shout from the sidelines.’

    All an integral part of the discussion,Randal

    I know you may be more used to ‘dictat’ rule from the shadows, but,Randal, openness and transparency are the lynchpins of democracy.


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    #1886
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,439 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Incorrect Randal, merely pointing out in response, the total paucity of the opposition and the lack of willingness to get involved in government.

    As Minister Collins said ‘Preferring to sit back and shout from the sidelines.’

    All an integral part of the discussion,Randal

    I know you may be more used to ‘dictat’ rule from the shadows, but,Randal, openness and transparency are the lynchpins of democracy.

    Brendi, what happened yesterday is the surest sign yet that the power swap will try to hold the power no matter what. Even if it means supporting wrong and inappropriate behaviour by once rival parties. Why?

    Because the power was all a game, they know they are in the last ditch saloon, if they lose this time that's the end of the power swap.

    They are doing what Trump is doing right now, clinging.


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    #1887
    smurgen
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    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Leo will be grand, lads. Top class politician. Get your own houses in order first. He's not going anywhere.

    The problem for us blueshirts is deciding on the next leader when that happens. So much talent. Coveney, McEntee, Donohoe, Harris.

    He's an alleged white collar criminal currently being investigated by Gardai economic crime bureau. He has severely damaged his parties name.


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    #1888
    blanch152
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    smurgen wrote: »
    He's an alleged white collar criminal currently being investigated by Gardai economic crime bureau. He has severely damaged his parties name.


    Do you have a link to the Garda investigation?

    All I know is that a frivolous complaint has been made to Gardai, and that there is no decision to investigate that complaint. You obviously have more inside information, or are you spoofing?


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    #1889
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Do you have a link to the Garda investigation?

    All I know is that a frivolous complaint has been made to Gardai, and that there is no decision to investigate that complaint. You obviously have more inside information, or are you spoofing?

    You're saying the claim was dismissed by Gardai? Care to provide a link?


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    #1890
    RandomViewer
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    smurgen wrote: »
    You're saying the claim was dismissed by Gardai? Care to provide a link?

    Garda might be reluctant to investigate, might find themselves on a Tusla report, remember Drew is very much in the FG cohort


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    #1891
    Brendan Bendar
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    blanch152 wrote: »
    The Village appear to have shot their load, looking less credible with every tweet.

    Maybe there is something more, but I get the sense they are bluffing.

    Blown the beans , Blanch.


    Lads here the same, in fairness, they emptied the magazines on this one and achieved nothing as was predicted.

    Spaffed the lot at it day after day..............


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