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Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

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  • #7712
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    vojiwox wrote: »
    He was in Minnesota

    Tampa, Florida behind him on a sign

    Text FL to 30330 in front of him on the podium

    He was in Florida


  • #7713
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    vojiwox wrote: »
    He was in Minnesota

    Who picked the sign for him to stand in front of.

    It's basic error stuff.

    Why is he back in Minnesota. Is that twice in one week?

    That's interesting, Minnesota should not be a concern for the Dems, going by polling data. Lots of other places to aim for or shore up.


  • #7714
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    Thanks for editing that in, though I'm not sure it's as promising for trum pas you made out - the black percentage is down 1.1% but that is offset by the Asian vote (where Trump is also behind Biden massively) raising by 0.9%.

    Much, much more worrying for Trump here is that the non college educated white vote, which was his absolute bread and butter in 2016, is down a whopping 4.9% as a total of the voters. The data in your link reads worse for him than it does for Biden.

    It's also heavily offset by far higher numbers of total votes being cast early, the 0.7% drop is more than compensated for by hundreds of thousands more votes being cast.


  • #7715
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Tampa, Florida behind him on a sign

    Text FL to 30330 in front of him on the podium

    He was in Florida

    No. Minnesota.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?477539-1/joe-biden-campaigns-st-paul-minnesota


  • #7716
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Danzy wrote: »
    Who picked the sign for him to stand in front of.

    It's basic error stuff.

    Why is he back in Minnesota. Is that twice in one week?

    That's interesting, Minnesota should not be a concern for the Dems, going by polling data. Lots of other places to aim for or shore up.

    And the podium sign


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  • #7717
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Eric Cartman wrote: »

    where are you Joe...

    Prince music playing him onto the stage must've tricking him into thinking he was in the twin cities. That's how Joe rolls, on vibes and sounds. Not billboards.


  • #7718
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Overheal wrote: »
    OK I think I see your confusion.

    Early voting according to TargetSmart, Florida, by Race+Education (only Whites are broken down by college and non-college, #privilege):

    African American voters as a percentage of 100% of early and absentee votes cast:


    2016: 13.4%
    2018: 13.8%
    2020: 12.7%

    ... However, you are not taking into account the number of votes being cast (see Graham's post)

    Coupling the early voting totals and the percentages we have the following estimate for number of African American early and absentee ballots in the state of Florida:

    2016: 114,437
    2018: 95,590
    2020: 130,164

    Ergo, there are clearly more African American early and absentee votes cast in 2020 than in either 2018 or 2016.

    No, no confusion. Some posters here, yourself included didn't read my post and went off on a tangent.

    I've looked at both figures for the last 2 weeks.


  • #7719
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1322986322135568393?s=20

    where are you Joe...

    This is a deepfake

    C-Span has the original footage

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?477539-1/joe-biden-campaigns-st-paul-minnesota

    @28 mins


  • #7720
    vojiwox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Tampa, Florida behind him on a sign

    Text FL to 30330 in front of him on the podium

    He was in Florida

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?477539-1/joe-biden-campaigns-st-paul-minnesota

    The internet must be an amazing place for you!!


  • #7721
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,335 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    if-you-dont-vote-on-november-3-2020-theyll-pick-66548456.png


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  • #7722
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,562 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Polls may be as unreliable this time as they were in 2016 when non college educated voters are considered. And national polls are meaningless. Biden winning is not assured.


  • #7723
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Phoebas wrote: »
    No. Minnesota.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?477539-1/joe-biden-campaigns-st-paul-minnesota

    It's a mess up by him campaign then, careless.

    What do you think the reasoning is behind another stop in MN.


  • #7724
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Danzy wrote: »
    It's a mess up by him campaign then, careless.

    What do you think the reasoning is behind another stop in MN.

    It's doctored footage fam.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?477539-1/joe-biden-campaigns-st-paul-minnesota

    go to 28th minute, see for yourself.


  • #7725
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Danzy wrote: »
    It's a mess up by him campaign then, careless.

    .

    Again. No.
    Do you ever get tired of being wrong?


  • #7726
    omega man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭omega man


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Polls may be as unreliable this time as they were in 2016 when non college educated voters are considered. And national polls are meaningless. Biden winning is not assured.

    Nothing is assured and I don’t think many would disagree on either side.
    Re the 2016 polls, I’m sure they had Clinton at around 2-4% nationally during the last week which was somewhat reflected in the actual (popular) vote.


  • #7727
    vojiwox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    Danzy wrote: »
    Who picked the sign for him to stand in front of.

    It's basic error stuff.

    No. It's fake.

    Christ. No wonder Rudi and Tucker had ye all convinced.


  • #7728
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    vojiwox wrote: »
    No. It's fake.

    Christ. No wonder Rudi and Tucker had ye all convinced.

    'had?'


  • #7729
    vojiwox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    Overheal wrote: »
    'had?'

    Just awaiting Donald's retweet.


  • #7730
    drogon.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭drogon.


    vojiwox wrote: »
    No. It's fake.

    Christ. No wonder Rudi and Tucker had ye all convinced.

    As the saying goes, It’s Easier to Fool People Than to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.


  • #7731
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Overheal wrote: »
    'had?'
    But why won't Biden confirm that it's fake? :pac:


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  • #7732
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,916 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1322986322135568393?s=20

    where are you Joe...

    Oh thats just embarrassing for you! Seriously lads so ye not even do the most basic of checks before throwing out these edited videos every day?


  • #7733
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Polls may be as unreliable this time as they were in 2016 when non college educated voters are considered. And national polls are meaningless. Biden winning is not assured.

    85,259,745 is that number accurate for early voting already?
    https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/?view_type=National&demo=Race%20+%20Education&demo_val=All

    43,991,614 says in 2016.


    With those stats, it might not be all that bad for Biden after all? You would think early voters are more inclined to vote democrat? It's a pity we don't have a breakdown for the 85 million voters and their exact location. Joe Biden receiving 10 million extra votes in California not going to help him flip states. A few million new votes in battleground states would.

    Early voting jumps here since 2016 are staggering and maybe an overlooked problem for Trump.

    https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/?view_type=National&demo=Race%20+%20Education&demo_val=All


  • #7734
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Overheal wrote: »
    It's doctored footage fam.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?477539-1/joe-biden-campaigns-st-paul-minnesota

    go to 28th minute, see for yourself.

    Fine, it seems so.

    It's immaterial either way.

    Much more interesting is why is he back in Minnesota?

    The interesting side of politics rather than the repetition that goes on in this thread .

    Is there any interest at all in the election?


  • #7735
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    if-you-dont-vote-on-november-3-2020-theyll-pick-66548456.png

    Nobody told me it was that time of the day again... :pac:

    I see your meme kermit, and raise you:

    images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSzes0GVnrT5mil7M3OQDqq6Gyc5UPmJy1VWA&usqp=CAU


  • #7736
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Danzy wrote: »
    Much more interesting is why is he back in Minnesota?

    My guess would be campaigning.


  • #7737
    tom_murphy112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭tom_murphy112


    Deleted User wrote: »
    But why won't Biden confirm that it's fake? :pac:

    Same reason you don’t have to come out saying fake, every time I tweet saying I rode your ma last night. When me and you know it was fake!


  • #7738
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,657 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    85,259,745 is that number accurate for early voting already?
    https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/?view_type=National&demo=Race%20+%20Education&demo_val=All

    43,991,614 says in 2016.


    With those stats, it might not be all that bad for Biden after all? You would think early voters are more inclined to vote democrat? It's a pity we don't have a breakdown for the 85 million voters and their exact location. Joe Biden receiving 10 million extra votes in California not going to help him flip states. A few million new votes in battleground states would.

    Early voting jumps here since 2016 are staggering and maybe an overlooked problem for Trump.

    https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/?view_type=National&demo=Race%20+%20Education&demo_val=All

    Overlooked?!! Where have you been? So far 67.6% of the *total* 2016 vote has been cast.

    You can get a breakdown by most states from this excellent source: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

    People have been screaming about this so I don't see how you feel it has been overlooked. On the whole, a huge turnout is never a good thing for an incumbent or in modern elections - the Republican candidate.


  • #7739
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Danzy wrote: »
    Fine, it seems so.

    It's immaterial either way.

    Much more interesting is why is he back in Minnesota?

    The interesting side of politics rather than the repetition that goes on in this thread .

    Is there any interest at all in the election?

    It's starting to dawn on everyone that the polls have been insane and are now in the process of scraping back some credibility. I assume this is coming as a surprise to those who bought the hype.


  • #7740
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    It's starting to dawn on everyone that the polls have been insane and are now in the process of scraping back some credibility. I assume this is coming as a surprise to those who bought the hype.

    I would say it's more avoiding complacency which is a wise strategy. Biden camp has constantly avoided it.


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  • #7741
    Himpy5
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭Himpy5


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    It's starting to dawn on everyone that the polls have been insane and are now in the process of scraping back some credibility. I assume this is coming as a surprise to those who bought the hype.


    Polls are BS and so easy to manipulate.
    I know this from experience.

    A terribly weak straw to cling to


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