Kerry GAA discussion thread #2

A good win, nice to see peter crowley back playing well and looks in good shape. I don't know is there a place for David Moran on this kerry team I think he slows it up, he tries to take too much with the ball, a bit too nice as well not a dirty stroke in him, a unit that size should be roughing it up a bit. We have the best forwards in the country no doubt about that, hopefully they can bring sam home for Christmas and Brighten up a right bad year.

Forge83 wrote: »

100%. If Jack Barry gets back to any kind of form it’s looking like a Barry/D O Connor midfield pairing with Moran for impact off the bench.
Very little high ball being kicked to midfield these days for Moran to dominate. He’s not agile enough anymore to create space for direct pass kick outs.
Is there anything to be said for using Sean O Shea at midfield? I think we have strong enough replacement forwards to soak up the loss of a few scores for the benefits he would give at midfield.
Still a bit unsure of what Peter’s plan for Ronan Buckley is...as he’s not a championship level wing forward in reality.

Donaghy made the same point about SOS in an interview with the examiner a couple of weeks ago. Made the argument about kick outs being more possession based now and Seanie being good enough and fit enough to create space and have the direct pass in his locker that other players dont have.

I'd say with Ronan Buckley, hes a work horse and with Kerry's defensive set up hes in there for that reason. Flooding men behind the ball to break quickly. You have to have lads that want to do that and work hard and he fits the bill. He wont be expected to be coming up with scores, look at the array of talent we have for that. I think he will do well for Kerry

awaywithyou wrote: »

Donaghy was Putting Sean Shea into midfield to facilitate Paudie Clifford at 11... now is not the time to try out this experiment... next years league can be used for that

Yeah, that's why I didnt mention it. Personally, I don't think Paudie will have what it takes to step up to county level. His fitness for a start is questionable at best and his commitment doesnt seem like 100%. Hopefully he will prove me wrong if hes given a chance but I just dont see it working for him.

Was there any more updates from the county board re streams? I know they had offered season ticket holders the Intermediate and Junior games for free but with them not happening what's the story?

Antrim will be a stiff game, but you would think if we can beat Carlow, we should make the final.

With Antrim and Carlow drawing, would I be right in saying a win against either guarantees Kerry a final spot?

DDC1990 wrote: »

With Antrim and Carlow drawing, would I be right in saying a win against either guarantees Kerry a final spot?

Yes, but getting a win in either of those matches won't be easy.

Antrim up in Belfast is up next, hopefully we can take momentum from the Westmeath game and get the win.#

It means the pressure would be off for the final match v Carlow in Tralee.

Kerry have the players to do it, just need to get it done!

Quiet in here for a championship opener.

Hoping for a solid performance this afternoon and that we'll progress injury free. Conditions look like they'll hold up.

Best of luck to the team and management.

Just came in here to check the talk from the other side of the county bounds and there’s not much talk. The yerra count is low. I was expecting at least one “ah sure look we will give it a go” but not one. Obviously I’m hoping for a cork win but if it’s a good game all the better.

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Just came in here to check the talk from the other side of the county bounds and there’s not much talk. The yerra count is low. I was expecting at least one “ah sure look we will give it a go” but not one. Obviously I’m hoping for a cork win but if it’s a good game all the better.

Not much to get excited about for me. I'm not a fan of this winter championship so far and it would take something very special to change my mind. Regardless of today's result. Football has been sloppy and turgid in most games so far.

Saying that I'd expect a Kerry win and comfortably enough at 5+ points. Talk of cork rising every year but they're a solid division 2 team so Kerry should be putting them away.

It's one thing to be trying out a new system, but we should be concentrating on our own game first, instead of being cynical.

Fann Linn wrote: »

Mmmmm.

Ya got it badly wrong it could turn out to be a right scrap yet.

MFPM wrote: »

Given all the hype around Kerry, it'd be gas if Cork turned them over. Expect Kerry to turn it around, but maybe they're not as good as sections of the media think they are or want them to be.

National media generally don't have the first clue regarding the merit of teams. Kerry haven't improved on last year. Donegal prob the next best after Dubs

Why did David Moran attempt that kick from nowhere when he had Seánie Shea unmarked alongside him. 2 points up and gifts the possession to Cork who go on to score. He’s very frustrating.

And he’s done it again. Two in a row now. If we lose this he’s got a lot of explaining to do.

Edit: game over. It’s on David Moran for me. Two pointless attempts at goal when we were under no pressure for a score. Ridiculous. See you all in 2021.

David Moran, have a bit of cop on. Terrible.

Keane out

Some bizarre decision making today at key times, there seemed to be nobody with the level headedness to slow it down when needed. In normal time David Clifford was entitled to take a mark 20 yards out in front of the goal but instead took an off balance shot with his left which went wide.

They just looked completely undercooked and Cork wanted it more. There'll be a long long inquisition into this.

FourFourFM wrote: »

Why did David Moran attempt that kick from nowhere when he had Seánie Shea unmarked alongside him. 2 points up and gifts the possession to Cork who go on to score. He’s very frustrating.

And he’s done it again. Two in a row now. If we lose this he’s got a lot of explaining to do.

Edit: game over. It’s on David Moran for me. Two pointless attempts at goal when we were under no pressure for a score. Ridiculous. See you all in 2021.

Yep. Possession was absolutely critical at that stage. Absolutely brainless to do it once but to do it the second time is just unforgivable.

Maybe they just weren't good enough

Coybig_ wrote: »

Way over the top criticism there. Not acceptable IMO. These are amateurs in testing times.

Not at all. He has cost Kerry massively in 3 massive games and will continue to do so. Gaining and keeping possession is fine, kicking and decision making for a man of his experience is shocking. That kick today wouldnt look out of place in a junior b game. His time is up hopefully.

Coybig_ wrote: »

Way over the top criticism there. Not acceptable IMO. These are amateurs in testing times.

It was amateur alright. Even an U-12 player knows you keep possession and wait for an opportunity to score when keeping a 2 point lead in a knockout game. The most important game of our season to win. You don’t just decide to have a go from nowhere unless you’re chasing a win in the dying seconds. Absolutely terrible from Moran and that’s not over the top criticism, it’s the facts of this game.

Brain dead stuff by Moran. Hold onto the ****ing ball instead of giving it away. Awful wides and free taking was very poor. Very frustrating

Its easy to blame Moran but you could also say that Clifford missed a couple of points and Seanie mouthing cost us another point, game should have been over by full time.