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thesultan

Kerry were terrible today and their negative approach cost them..

dobman88

CiarraiAbu2 wrote: »

Its easy to blame Moran but you could also say that Clifford missed a couple of points and Seanie mouthing cost us another point, game should have been over by full time.

That's why I said despite the overall performance, Moran is to blame. Lads will have an off day but you need lads to keep their heads at vital moments and Moran shít the bed

awaywithyou

CiarraiAbu2 wrote: »

Its easy to blame Moran but you could also say that Clifford missed a couple of points and Seanie mouthing cost us another point, game should have been over by full time.

them lads will learn...... Moran should by now know better...

siblers

CiarraiAbu2 wrote: »

Its easy to blame Moran but you could also say that Clifford missed a couple of points and Seanie mouthing cost us another point, game should have been over by full time.

Clifford was very poor for the most part. Not sure why he didn't take the mark

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But he's still only young. Tommy Walsh and 8Moran should know better

CiarraiAbu2

Its easy to blame Moran but you could also say that Clifford missed a couple of points and Seanie mouthing cost us another point, game should have been over by full time.

MFPM

What a result or Cork...Pat Spillane and Tomas O Se will be sick given their dismissiveness of Cork this week.

siblers

Brain dead stuff by Moran. Hold onto the ****ing ball instead of giving it away. Awful wides and free taking was very poor. Very frustrating

Kingdom

FourFourFM wrote: »

Why did David Moran attempt that kick from nowhere when he had Seánie Shea unmarked alongside him. 2 points up and gifts the possession to Cork who go on to score. He’s very frustrating.

And he’s done it again. Two in a row now. If we lose this he’s got a lot of explaining to do.

Edit: game over. It’s on David Moran for me. Two pointless attempts at goal when we were under no pressure for a score. Ridiculous. See you all in 2021.

I agree with you totally, and isnt the first time he's been guilty of it in big games.
For me he's too pedestrian, and simply for a man of his size, not strong enough around the middle of the field.

FourFourRED

Coybig_ wrote: »

Way over the top criticism there. Not acceptable IMO. These are amateurs in testing times.

It was amateur alright. Even an U-12 player knows you keep possession and wait for an opportunity to score when keeping a 2 point lead in a knockout game. The most important game of our season to win. You don’t just decide to have a go from nowhere unless you’re chasing a win in the dying seconds. Absolutely terrible from Moran and that’s not over the top criticism, it’s the facts of this game.

dobman88

BloodyBill wrote: »

I wouldnt say that's Corks All Ireland. What I would say is that was one of kerrys worst performances..clueless..No leaders. Jack O Connor wouldn't have let that happen.

Its definitely their all Ireland. They might limp past Tipp but will be beaten out the gate against whoever they play after that.

dobman88

Coybig_ wrote: »

Way over the top criticism there. Not acceptable IMO. These are amateurs in testing times.

Not at all. He has cost Kerry massively in 3 massive games and will continue to do so. Gaining and keeping possession is fine, kicking and decision making for a man of his experience is shocking. That kick today wouldnt look out of place in a junior b game. His time is up hopefully.

SecretsOfEarth

While David Moran is not completely to blame for today's loss, it is unfair to dismiss anyone criticising. He has done this repeatedly in clutch moments - stupid kicks, running into the tackle and general brain-dead decision making.

I appreciate his spectacular catches and his leadership capabilities over the years, but if he can't see by now that he should not be shooting, then it's time to hang up the boots.

kerryjack

Maybe they just weren't good enough

mystic86

Ffs Moran

The_Honeybadger

FourFourFM wrote: »

Why did David Moran attempt that kick from nowhere when he had Seánie Shea unmarked alongside him. 2 points up and gifts the possession to Cork who go on to score. He’s very frustrating.

And he’s done it again. Two in a row now. If we lose this he’s got a lot of explaining to do.

Edit: game over. It’s on David Moran for me. Two pointless attempts at goal when we were under no pressure for a score. Ridiculous. See you all in 2021.

Yep. Possession was absolutely critical at that stage. Absolutely brainless to do it once but to do it the second time is just unforgivable.

awaywithyou

David has been a fantastic servant for Kerry no question.. to come back from the injuries he has had to b an outstanding midfielder has taken some effort on his part.... BUT that is 3 championship games in a row he has done stupid things resulting in scores for the opposition..

thelad95

Some bizarre decision making today at key times, there seemed to be nobody with the level headedness to slow it down when needed. In normal time David Clifford was entitled to take a mark 20 yards out in front of the goal but instead took an off balance shot with his left which went wide.

They just looked completely undercooked and Cork wanted it more. There'll be a long long inquisition into this.

munster87

Yeah, it's time for him to go and I don't see the problem in a supporter saying they want that.

BloodyBill

dobman88 wrote: »

I've said it for years. David Moran is an absolute liability. His kicking has always been brutal. He is the single reason for this loss despite the overall performance. Hopefully his last game in a Kerry jersey.

Fair play to cork. That's their all Ireland final and fully deserved

I wouldnt say that's Corks All Ireland. What I would say is that was one of kerrys worst performances..clueless..No leaders. Jack O Connor wouldn't have let that happen.

Coybig_

dobman88 wrote: »

I've said it for years. David Moran is an absolute liability. His kicking has always been brutal. He is the single reason for this loss despite the overall performance. Hopefully his last game in a Kerry jersey.

Fair play to cork. That's their all Ireland final and fully deserved

Way over the top criticism there. Not acceptable IMO. These are amateurs in testing times.

awaywithyou

Keane out

dobman88

I've said it for years. David Moran is an absolute liability. His kicking has always been brutal. He is the single reason for this loss despite the overall performance. Hopefully his last game in a Kerry jersey.

Fair play to cork. That's their all Ireland final and fully deserved

munster87

David Moran, have a bit of cop on. Terrible.

Fann Linn

kerryjack wrote: »

We have never lost an extra time.

Got it wrong twice today.

FourFourRED

Why did David Moran attempt that kick from nowhere when he had Seánie Shea unmarked alongside him. 2 points up and gifts the possession to Cork who go on to score. He’s very frustrating.

And he’s done it again. Two in a row now. If we lose this he’s got a lot of explaining to do.

Edit: game over. It’s on David Moran for me. Two pointless attempts at goal when we were under no pressure for a score. Ridiculous. See you all in 2021.

kerryjack

We have never lost an extra time.

jimmytwotimes 2013

MFPM wrote: »

Given all the hype around Kerry, it'd be gas if Cork turned them over. Expect Kerry to turn it around, but maybe they're not as good as sections of the media think they are or want them to be.

National media generally don't have the first clue regarding the merit of teams. Kerry haven't improved on last year. Donegal prob the next best after Dubs

MFPM

Given all the hype around Kerry, it'd be gas if Cork turned them over. Expect Kerry to turn it around, but maybe they're not as good as sections of the media think they are or want them to be.

kerryjack

Fann Linn wrote: »

Mmmmm.

Ya got it badly wrong it could turn out to be a right scrap yet.

Fann Linn

kerryjack wrote: »

I expect it to be over at half time.

Mmmmm.