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Schools closed until February? (part 3)

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  • #3182
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well I for one think teachers do are great job, and in my experience having kids in school are diligent, innovative in how they are dealing with the changes in school and above all full of integrity. It is the facts being peddled on the thread not the profession I have an issue with

    Look the fact is teachers do not trust the Dept of Education or HSE to test and trace teachers based on their past performance. I felt safer as a nurse during the Aids epidemic in late 80s early 90s when they hadnt a clue how it was caught, then I do now. But all I can do is read the science and keep my little corner of school clean and ventilated.

    I happen to think that the biggest player in my school so far is the windows being open all day, it is freezing but worth it. We are covid central in Dublin and so far only a few offical cases in school, which I think ventilation is playing a big part in preventing spread.


  • #3183
    Lillyfae
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    khalessi wrote: »
    Look the fact is teachers do not trust the Dept of Education or HSE to test and trace teachers based on their past performance. I felt safer as a nurse during the Aids epidemic in late 80s early 90s when they hadnt a clue how it was caught, then I do now. But all I can do is read the science and keep my little corner of school clean and ventilated.

    Because Ireland was of course the epicenter of the 80s AIDS crisis.

    You keep clutching those pearls Khalessi.


  • #3184
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    khalessi wrote: »
    I happen to think that the biggest player in my school so far is the windows being open all day, it is freezing but worth it. We are covid central in Dublin and so far only a few offical cases in school, which I think ventilation is playing a big part in preventing spread.

    100%. i was mocked for saying that yesterday. open the windows and put the jackets on.


  • #3185
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    froog wrote: »
    100%. i was mocked for saying that yesterday. open the windows and put the jackets on.

    But but civil rights bullsh!t.

    Whingers will always whinge.

    Open the bloody windows and layer up.


  • #3186
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    Because Ireland was of course the epicenter of the 80s AIDS crisis.

    You keep clutching those pearls Khalessi.

    Snide remarks so becoming of you. You had no idea what it was like here when Aids epidemic occured tbut then you are an expert on all areas sure whether I am a nurse or teacher your feelings are plain to see for everyone .


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  • #3187
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    froog wrote: »
    100%. i was mocked for saying that yesterday. open the windows and put the jackets on.

    I have a waterbottle thermal and coats and if that is what it takes to keep going grand, I am happy to do it.


  • #3188
    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    Because Ireland was of course the epicenter of the 80s AIDS crisis.

    You keep clutching those pearls Khalessi.

    That post is a new low in bad taste. Quite an achievement given the usual standard.


  • #3189
    irishblessing
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 962 ✭✭✭irishblessing


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well I for one think teachers do a great job, and in my experience, having kids in school, are diligent, innovative in how they are dealing with the changes in school and above all full of integrity. It is the facts being peddled on the thread not the profession I have an issue with

    You almost had it!


  • #3190
    irishblessing
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 962 ✭✭✭irishblessing


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    Because Ireland was of course the epicenter of the 80s AIDS crisis.

    You keep clutching those pearls Khalessi.

    What do you know about it? Personal or professional experience? I'll wait.


  • #3191
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,586 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Weather has been fair mild, wonder how keeping the windows open will pan out in the next month or 2.


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  • #3192
    2ndcoming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    Some seriously tragic characters on this thread, seem to be at nothing but keeping their little BS circle jerk going. Wouldn't do it if you paid me, get a life lads.


  • #3193
    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    2ndcoming wrote: »
    Some seriously tragic characters on this thread, seem to be at nothing but keeping their little BS circle jerk going. Wouldn't do it if you paid me, get a life lads.

    Thought the pubs were closed?


  • #3194
    PowerToWait
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    Because Ireland was of course the epicenter of the 80s AIDS crisis.

    You keep clutching those pearls Khalessi.

    This is a just a shítty, petty post, by any standard.


  • #3195
    MelbourneMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭MelbourneMan


    downthemiddle wrote: »
    You seem confused Mr Expert. In one thread you claim that schools are contributing to propagation yet in this thread you state that schools are safe and to claim otherwise is harmful. Clearly you regard your own behaviour as harmful.

    Hi there. Getting back to you in this.

    I think I explained elsewhere here that 'safe' is not really a black and white thing, and must be regarded as gradations of risk.

    Corona brings risk, albeit very small. Schools, while being loci of transmission, as they must be since people are associating, bring no significantly increased risk than other essential aspects of life today. So in that sense, they are not significantly safer or less safe in the over development of the pandemic.

    Can one catch Covid-19 in a school ? Of course, and that experience is being replicated in every country across Europe. Does that make it un'safe' ? Of course not, and that collective knowledge is hugely important to us.


  • #3196
    downthemiddle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    MelbourneMan wrote: »
    Hi there. Getting back to you in this.

    I think I explained elsewhere here that 'safe' is not really a black and white thing, and must be regarded as gradations of risk.

    Corona brings risk, albeit very small. Schools, while being loci of transmission, as they must be since people are associating, bring no significantly increased risk than other essential aspects of life today. So in that sense, they are not significantly safer or less safe in the over development of the pandemic.

    Can one catch Covid-19 in a school ? Of course, and that experience is being replicated in every country across Europe. Does that make it un'safe' ? Of course not, and that collective knowledge is hugely important to us.

    The obvious conclusion PropogandaMan is that you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You registered as a user less than three weeks ago and only post in Covid threads. I am not sure what you hope to achieve but you are definitely entertaining.


  • #3197
    MelbourneMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭MelbourneMan


    History Queen wrote: »
    I'll play along.

    Obviously your time is much more valuable than mine....

    Essentially I want to know what is the prevailing opinion in the Department of Education about their own repeated ineptitude? A clear answer devoid of excuses and bull**** would be fantastic.

    I think it fair to say that you are not really posing a question, rather, making a rather pointed rhetorical question in order to criticise the DoE. I cannot speak for the DoE. But think they are unlikely to accept your charge that they display repeated ineptitude. We need to keep children in school and keeping the schools open is a big priority for Government.


  • #3198
    downthemiddle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    MelbourneMan wrote: »
    .

    Can one catch Covid-19 in a school ? Of course, and that experience is being replicated in every country across Europe. Does that make it un'safe' ? Of course not, and that collective knowledge is hugely important to us.

    Nice of you to admit you are a government shill. Things must be getting desperate in Marlborough Street. The original Marlboro Man made false statements about people's health too.


  • #3199
    mvl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭mvl


    Boggles wrote: »
    Weather has been fair mild, wonder how keeping the windows open will pan out in the next month or 2.


    I wonder about that myself: this week I want to write to the school principal to ask what about her "no boots" policy this winter.


  • #3200
    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    downthemiddle wrote: »
    Nice of you to admit you are a government shill. Things must be getting desperate in Marlborough Street. The original Marlboro Man made false statements about people's health too.

    I'm too shy to address him directly so would you be kind enough to ask him about his opinion on teaching in marquees?


  • #3201
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    MelbourneMan wrote: »
    I think it fair to say that you are not really posing a question, rather, making a rather pointed rhetorical question in order to criticise the DoE. I cannot speak for the DoE. But think they are unlikely to accept your charge that they display repeated ineptitude. We need to keep children in school and keeping the schools open is a big priority for Government.

    What exactly do you class as ineptitude then? Because that’s an incredible statement to be honest given the last six months. Let’s start with just the big ticket items and ignore the Friday evening circulars etc

    Leaving cert is going ahead by hook or by crook. Cancelled. Media knew before the schools or students.

    Guidance for schools reopening? Three weeks before Opening despite months waiting.

    Leaving cert results... do I even need to discuss this further?

    Hand sanitizer. 48hrs to tell schools they had unsafe sanitizer in use.

    All sanitising equipment. 50 products withdrawn with only one working day before schools reopen


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  • #3202
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    downthemiddle wrote: »
    Nice of you to admit you are a government shill. Things must be getting desperate in Marlborough Street. The original Marlboro Man made false statements about people's health too.

    Us, Irish people in general


  • #3203
    downthemiddle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Blondini wrote: »
    I'm too shy to address him directly so would you be kind enough to ask him about his opinion on teaching in marquees?

    He's too articulate to be a marquee poster, I believe. However, a poster who is critical of Tony Holohan, but defends government, is transparent in their agenda.


  • #3204
    Smacruairi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Smacruairi


    Lads, it's a WUM 😅😅


  • #3205
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    What exactly do you class as ineptitude then? Because that’s an incredible statement to be honest given the last six months. Let’s start with just the big ticket items and ignore the Friday evening circulars etc

    Leaving cert is going ahead by hook or by crook. Cancelled. Media knew before the schools or students.

    Guidance for schools reopening? Three weeks before Opening despite months waiting.

    Leaving cert results... do I even need to discuss this further?

    Hand sanitizer. 48hrs to tell schools they had unsafe sanitizer in use. Knew since the Tuesday and informed principals at 10pm Thursday night

    All sanitising equipment. 50 products withdrawn with only one working day before schools reopen

    And Norma the invisible Minister

    Josepha Madigan going on about all the subs and there are 4 subs between 16 schools in my area, most of which have between 50-70 staff


  • #3206
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Smacruairi wrote: »
    Lads, it's a WUM ����

    Ah sure i know that, he isnt government at all or anyhing like but sure he has a lovely turn of phrase. Much nicer than the normal stuff we get here.


  • #3207
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    All sanitising equipment. 50 products withdrawn with only one working day before schools reopen

    Actually it's three. You are allowed to work on weekends you know.


  • #3208
    downthemiddle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Actually it's three. You are allowed to work on weekends you know.

    A swing....................and a miss.


  • #3209
    History Queen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭History Queen


    MelbourneMan wrote: »
    I think it fair to say that you are not really posing a question, rather, making a rather pointed rhetorical question in order to criticise the DoE. I cannot speak for the DoE. But think they are unlikely to accept your charge that they display repeated ineptitude. We need to keep children in school and keeping the schools open is a big priority for Government.

    No it is a serious question. I would argue that if they cannot accept their obvious ineptitide as a department that their comprehension abilities must be even more lacking than I first feared.

    Just a reminder of their recent highlights:
    1. Leaving Cert (all of it)
    2. Hand sanatiser issues x 2
    3. Ordering high risk teachers to attend
    4. Issuing guidelines to schools 3 weeks ahead of opening
    5. Lack of accommodation for high risk students
    6. Lack of distance learning guidelines

    I won't stay going, but you get the picture.

    You say you cannot speak for the Department of Education, who precisely is it you can speak for in your oh so authoritative and condescending tone?.... No-one, same as the rest of us.


  • #3210
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Actually it's three. You are allowed to work on weekends you know.

    Good lord. I can’t even....

    Yeah that’s me out again. This thread is ridiculous


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  • #3211
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    Good lord. I can’t even....

    Yeah that’s me out again. This thread is ridiculous

    It might be ridiculous but I would think 3 days would be enough to read a list and swap out whatever is needed to be swapped out. You can order bigger quantities later. Apparently not...


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