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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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  • #8642
    Nokia6230i
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Nokia6230i


    Deleted User wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^

    Nice rant - I don't know why you addressed my post though... Apart from the Izzy reference - I never questioned Izzy getting 'beaten up' - only posited that perhaps Izzy instigated proceedings.. Is that in dispute?

    What way did she instigate it? By being there, by going there? Is it an offence to mount subtly or indirectly, a counter protest? I know from watching DWs rants (GODs Protege) that she thinks it's illegal; it isn't but if you repeat the lie often enough then she & her mob will believe it......

    Again I can only go on footage from those at the protest; they were the ones filimng; they seem to thnk everything that moves must be live-streamed including an attack on a woman who was doing nothing to intimidate them; she had no weapons unlike the mob who moved in on her.

    So No is the answer & nope, there was no fake blood; another false flag by the Far Right that one.


  • #8643
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Very disingenuous post that. You're according blame to 'boogeymen' when there has been no proof, or no one held to account for at least two of those. The rest mainly sound like hurt feelings, and folk being triggered.

    Proposed DP centre set on fire - no one being prosecuted for that.
    SF TD's car firebombed - again, who has been prosecuted for that?

    What's a 'Racist threat' ?.. Doesn't matter - it's more bs.. and 'Violent threats' - most likely made up by Hazel Chu - a professional grievance monger..

    And did Izzy Kamikaze do any posturing, intimidating, or throw any punches first? If it was someone else who got their ass handed to them your opinion would most likely be it served them right ; if it was someone doing similar, but not on your side..

    The old tactic of who else would it be? gets thrown out a lot, when it suits.. with zero proof :pac:

    Never heard of Aneta Safiak, or Fiona Ryan, and sure isn't it okay to not like your president.. In another Western Country that I won't name it's okay apparently to say, and carry placards saying fk... , and kill .... . About 4-5,000 miles west of here... But that doesn't count, as it's 'freedom of speech' :rolleyes:

    Right ok.....

    Gemma, Justin, Grand Torino, Gearoid Murphy etc were not going around the country stirring up hate against peoole living in DP Centres - thats all just a figment of our imagination - They didnt try to cause havoc in Lismore or Rosslare or Gorey or Achill Island or Oughterard or Lismore or Tullamore or Wicklow or Caherciveen or Borrisokane or Ballinamore. We all know far right racists burned the hotel proposed as a DP centre and the TDs car.

    Stop trying to pretend the videos about President Higgins were just about "not liking" him.

    Are you seriously saying that violent racist threats didnt happen against Fiona Ryan or Hazel Chu or Aneta Safiak? And that Izzy K went in with punches?

    Nah the disengenuousness here is your spin, deflection and pretense

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #8644
    TaurenDruid
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^

    Nice rant - I don't know why you addressed my post though... Apart from the Izzy reference - I never questioned Izzy getting 'beaten up' - only posited that perhaps Izzy instigated proceedings.. Is that in dispute?

    Listen to yourself. You're victim blaming and trying to justify assault with a weapon. Izzy "instigated" nothing, she got attacked by a man with a 2x4 wrapped in a tricolour. That is what happened.

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  • #8645
    tayto lover
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    Can people not acknowledge that there are lunatics on every side.
    This thread is about the undisputed Queen of lunatics, Gemma O’Doherty.


  • #8646
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,989 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    Listen to yourself. You're victim blaming and trying to justify assault with a weapon. Izzy "instigated" nothing, she got attacked by a man with a 2x4 wrapped in a tricolour. That is what happened.

    I don't know what happened, and yeah I might be 'victim blaming' ; as you see it. But the fact remains that if it happened at a demo, and a counter protest was there as well, then they should have remained separate.

    I'm guessing that she 'approached' the 'other' group. What I do know is that the side that promotes 'tolerance' is the one most likely to 'engage' with the other at these demos/events. Granted, usually the 'Nationalist' side is more capable of settling whatever disputes that arise; regardless of who started it.

    There are those on the 'tolerance' side, and supporters on here; who, on more than one occasion have said good enough for them when someone on the 'other' side is assaulted. They're also happy to post on here that they would like to see batons and watercannons used by the Gardaí to disperse those who are anti-mask, anti-vaccine etc,. It's not against the Law to be outdoors with no mask on.

    The same folk; who, at best, in the current (past 7 or so months) climate don't condemn any BLM marches etc, and, when this is put to them (the perceived/actual hypocrisy of their stance) the most they will say is
    they're all idiots. They rarely come out in 'advance' of any of these pro-multiculti/utopian idealistic type rallies with their admonishments. Only if there's an incident.

    And another thing, which I feel needs to be pointed out, because it certainly would be if the 'shoe was on the other foot' is the fact that the 'Koombaya' types are most likely to stage a counter protest. I can only imagine the vitriol that would ensue were pro-lmmigration/lgbtq rallies etc targeted as often for these 'counter demos' , as the anti-immigration/lgbtq/masks/vaccines etc rallies are.

    Anyone should be entitled to hold a peaceful demonstation within the constraints of the Law without there being a need on every single occasion for a counter-demo.

    I'm still none the wiser about how this assault came about. I'm guessing Izzy approached the other group, and; to all her fans on here, if that is the case they would most likely say she deserved it if they were referencing Gemma, and Gemma got beat up.

    I'm willing to stand corrected on my presumptions, as I was not there. I know I'm not wrong about the hypocrisy though. Violence is welcomed if it happens to one of your 'boogeymen' (GOD, Barrett, Waters, Croft, Niall from Donegal etc..) whether it's 'deserved' or not.

    That's my opinion on it as well as playing 'Devil's advocate'. If Izzy was minding her own business counter-demonstrating and chanting etc several metres away then whoever 'assaulted' her are thugs. I don't know, or believe that that is what happened though.
    .


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  • #8647
    dan1895
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    She was observing not countering. She was spotted by the speaker and called out at which stage the crowd turned and confronted her.


  • #8648
    irishgrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I don't know what happened, and yeah I might be 'victim blaming' ; as you see it. But the fact remains that if it happened at a demo, and a counter protest was there as well, then they should have remained separate.

    I'm guessing that she 'approached' the 'other' group. What I do know is that the side that promotes 'tolerance' is the one most likely to 'engage' with the other at these demos/events. Granted, usually the 'Nationalist' side is more capable of settling whatever disputes that arise; regardless of who started it.

    There are those on the 'tolerance' side, and supporters on here; who, on more than one occasion have said good enough for them when someone on the 'other' side is assaulted. They're also happy to post on here that they would like to see batons and watercannons used by the Gardaí to disperse those who are anti-mask, anti-vaccine etc,. It's not against the Law to be outdoors with no mask on.

    The same folk; who, at best, in the current (past 7 or so months) climate don't condemn any BLM marches etc, and, when this is put to them (the perceived/actual hypocrisy of their stance) the most they will say is
    they're all idiots. They rarely come out in 'advance' of any of these pro-multiculti/utopian idealistic type rallies with their admonishments. Only if there's an incident.

    And another thing, which I feel needs to be pointed out, because it certainly would be if the 'shoe was on the other foot' is the fact that the 'Koombaya' types are most likely to stage a counter protest. I can only imagine the vitriol that would ensue were pro-lmmigration/lgbtq rallies etc targeted as often for these 'counter demos' , as the anti-immigration/lgbtq/masks/vaccines etc rallies are.

    Anyone should be entitled to hold a peaceful demonstation within the constraints of the Law without there being a need on every single occasion for a counter-demo.

    I'm still none the wiser about how this assault came about. I'm guessing Izzy approached the other group, and; to all her fans on here, if that is the case they would most likely say she deserved it if they were referencing Gemma, and Gemma got beat up.

    I'm willing to stand corrected on my presumptions, as I was not there. I know I'm not wrong about the hypocrisy though. Violence is welcomed if it happens to one of your 'boogeymen' (GOD, Barrett, Waters, Croft, Niall from Donegal etc..) whether it's 'deserved' or not.

    That's my opinion on it as well as playing 'Devil's advocate'. If Izzy was minding her own business counter-demonstrating and chanting etc several metres away then whoever 'assaulted' her are thugs. I don't know, or believe that that is what happened though.
    .

    I don't buy the concept that there are 2 opposing but equal sides.

    On one side you have protests that are primarily organized by and significantly attended by racists and fascists.
    On the other side you have a group of people who go out of their way to confront racists and fascists.

    I don't subscribe to the Donald Trump school of thought that both sides are equally full of good people.


  • #8649
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I don't know what happened, and yeah I might be 'victim blaming' ; as you see it. But the fact remains that if it happened at a demo, and a counter protest was there as well, then they should have remained separate.

    I'm guessing that she 'approached' the 'other' group. What I do know is that the side that promotes 'tolerance' is the one most likely to 'engage' with the other at these demos/events. Granted, usually the 'Nationalist' side is more capable of settling whatever disputes that arise; regardless of who started it.

    There are those on the 'tolerance' side, and supporters on here; who, on more than one occasion have said good enough for them when someone on the 'other' side is assaulted. They're also happy to post on here that they would like to see batons and watercannons used by the Gardaí to disperse those who are anti-mask, anti-vaccine etc,. It's not against the Law to be outdoors with no mask on.

    The same folk; who, at best, in the current (past 7 or so months) climate don't condemn any BLM marches etc, and, when this is put to them (the perceived/actual hypocrisy of their stance) the most they will say is
    they're all idiots. They rarely come out in 'advance' of any of these pro-multiculti/utopian idealistic type rallies with their admonishments. Only if there's an incident.

    And another thing, which I feel needs to be pointed out, because it certainly would be if the 'shoe was on the other foot' is the fact that the 'Koombaya' types are most likely to stage a counter protest. I can only imagine the vitriol that would ensue were pro-lmmigration/lgbtq rallies etc targeted as often for these 'counter demos' , as the anti-immigration/lgbtq/masks/vaccines etc rallies are.

    Anyone should be entitled to hold a peaceful demonstation within the constraints of the Law without there being a need on every single occasion for a counter-demo.

    I'm still none the wiser about how this assault came about. I'm guessing Izzy approached the other group, and; to all her fans on here, if that is the case they would most likely say she deserved it if they were referencing Gemma, and Gemma got beat up.

    I'm willing to stand corrected on my presumptions, as I was not there. I know I'm not wrong about the hypocrisy though. Violence is welcomed if it happens to one of your 'boogeymen' (GOD, Barrett, Waters, Croft, Niall from Donegal etc..) whether it's 'deserved' or not.

    That's my opinion on it as well as playing 'Devil's advocate'. If Izzy was minding her own business counter-demonstrating and chanting etc several metres away then whoever 'assaulted' her are thugs. I don't know, or believe that that is what happened though.
    .

    tl;dr version: I openly acknowledge I have absolutely no idea what happened, so I'm just going to imagine it and blame it all on the victim, because I don't like her and I do like the perpetrators.

    As has been pointed out, there's plenty of footage. We know what happened.

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  • #8650
    TaurenDruid
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    irishgrover wrote: »
    I don't buy the concept that there are 2 opposing but equal sides.

    On one side you have protests that are primarily organized by and significantly attended by racists and fascists.
    On the other side you have a group of people who go out of their way to confront racists and fascists.

    I don't subscribe to the Donald Trump school of thought that both sides are equally full of good people.

    This. 100%. There are no "good" fascists.

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  • #8651
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,989 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    tl;dr version: I openly acknowledge I have absolutely no idea what happened, so I'm just going to imagine it and blame it all on the victim, because I don't like her and I do like the perpetrators.

    As has been pointed out, there's plenty of footage. We know what happened.

    Very clever there, but that's an inaccurate interpretation of what I said.


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  • #8652
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,989 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    irishgrover wrote: »
    I don't buy the concept that there are 2 opposing but equal sides.

    On one side you have protests that are primarily organized by and significantly attended by racists and fascists.
    On the other side you have a group of people who go out of their way to confront racists and fascists.

    I don't subscribe to the Donald Trump school of thought that both sides are equally full of good people.

    Sums it up - one side has greater entitlement and latitude towards their violent actions. If the protest is Lawful, then it's valid. The protestors on the opposition's side aren't 'lesser' just because most on here disagree with them.


  • #8653
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Very clever there, but that's an inaccurate interpretation of what I said.

    It's perfectly accurate. Your words are right there, in black and white. Just as the footage of an unprovoked criminal assault with a weapon is widely available.

    * "I don't know what happened, and yeah I might be 'victim blaming'"

    * "I'm guessing"

    * "I'm still none the wiser about how this assault came about. I'm guessing Izzy approached the other group"

    * "That's my opinion on it as well as playing 'Devil's advocate'."

    * "I don't know, or believe that that is what happened though"

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  • #8654
    Seth Brundle
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    Getting back on topic...

    https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1322109859962257409

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  • #8655
    Seth Brundle
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    https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1322105528823255040

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  • #8656
    Seth Brundle
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    There's 3G in the bins at bus stops :eek:

    https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1322102987830054912

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  • #8657
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,989 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    It's perfectly accurate. Your words are right there, in black and white. Just as the footage of an unprovoked criminal assault with a weapon is widely available.

    * "I don't know what happened, and yeah I might be 'victim blaming'"

    * "I'm guessing"

    * "I'm still none the wiser about how this assault came about. I'm guessing Izzy approached the other group"

    * "That's my opinion on it as well as playing 'Devil's advocate'."

    * "I don't know, or believe that that is what happened though"

    'Unprovoked' - lol.

    Takes very little to provoke the let everyone live in harmony regardless of their background, religion, culture, outlook side.

    The type of stuff that they feel 'provoked' by is laughable..

    I still reckon she wasn't as 'innocent a bystander' as folk on here are making out..

    I'll leave it at that. When the general consensus is the other side are racists and fascists, then there's no point in having a discussion. Anyone who disagrees with the 'the other side don't count' like-mindedness is ridiculed in this echo-chamber.


  • #8658
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    There's 3G in the bins at bus stops :eek:

    https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1322102987830054912
    The one about 5G and boars is very funny.
    Who is the lady in the green jacket?
    Have her and Dee had a falling out?!


  • #8659
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    gmisk wrote: »
    The one about 5G and boars is very funny.

    this one...
    https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1322097805360586753
    gmisk wrote: »
    Who is the lady in the green jacket?
    Have her and Dee had a falling out?!
    Fiona Flanagan I believe.
    No idea about Dee but nothing about these loons would surprise me.

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  • #8660
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    There's 3G in the bins at bus stops :eek:

    https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1322102987830054912

    That is actually true and she got the reason why its there... but its not doing anyone any harm...


  • #8661
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,267 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    this one...
    https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1322097805360586753

    Oh my God lol.


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  • #8662
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Deleted User wrote: »
    'Unprovoked' - lol.

    Takes very little to provoke the let everyone live in harmony regardless of their background, religion, culture, outlook side.

    The type of stuff that they feel 'provoked' by is laughable..

    I still reckon she wasn't as 'innocent a bystander' as folk on here are making out..

    I'll leave it at that. When the general consensus is the other side are racists and fascists, then there's no point in having a discussion. Anyone who disagrees with the 'the other side don't count' like-mindedness is ridiculed in this echo-chamber.

    You're laughing at a criminal assault with a weapon. And are unwilling to accept any evidence contrary to your pre-formed opinion. So yeah, not much point talking to you.

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  • #8663
    The Nal
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    What an absolute laughing stock of a human. Two middle aged technophobes lecturing people online about the dangers of a technology that they clearly don't even understand. Its like a parody.


  • #8664
    PhoneMain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    gmisk wrote: »
    The one about 5G and boars is very funny.
    Who is the lady in the green jacket?
    Have her and Dee had a falling out?!

    Thats Fiona Marie Flanagan. Another Gemma but more toxic I reckon. Very anti emigration, pro catholocism (nothing wrong with being religious - I'm somewhat religious myself, I can just see some of the mad sh1t in religion and I'm also happy for everyone else to have their own religion or none). She's toxic as is she will look at a biased blog on twitter and call it "research" and scathes anyone who happens to disagree with her, usually in highly insulting ways. Comes across as very well spoken and posh however, I'm sure she's the type of person Gemma wants to associate herself with rather than Dee.

    I really have to stop wasting time looking up these loopers on social media, I'm car crash viewing tho.


  • #8665
    Piehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭Piehead


    That Dee looks like she’s had a few spicebags in her day if you know what I mean


  • #8666
    musiknonstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭musiknonstop


    Gemma's friend Flanagan had a falling out with the PayPal Patriots recently when it was revealed that she has some Jewish family. She failed their purity test for Irish Patriotism after that.


  • #8667
    brightspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭brightspark


    Not sure when it happened, but Fiona blocked me on twitter :)


  • #8668
    Smegging hell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭Smegging hell


    musiknonstop wrote: »
    Gemma's friend Flanagan had a falling out with the PayPal Patriots recently when it was revealed that she has some Jewish family. She failed their purity test for Irish Patriotism after that.

    It's noticeable that as their rallies have gotten smaller over the past month they are turning against each other more and more.


  • #8669
    irishgrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    Deleted User wrote: »
    ........ The protestors on the opposition's side aren't 'lesser' just because most on here disagree with them.

    100% agree with you. They aren't lesser because most on here disagree with them.
    Ther are however absolutely lesser because there are attending an event organized by and facilitated by fascists and racists


  • #8670
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    irishgrover wrote: »
    100% agree with you. They aren't lesser because most on here disagree with them.
    Ther are however absolutely lesser because there are attending an event organized by and facilitated by fascists and racists

    Anyone protesting anything during this pandemic is an utter moron equalled across the board. BLM, Debenhams, National Party, Gemma, Counter protesting any of the protests.


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  • #8671
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Anyone protesting anything during this pandemic is an utter moron equalled across the board. BLM, Debenhams, National Party, Gemma, Counter protesting any of the protests.
    I agree with all those bar Debenhams to a degree.
    I really have huge sympathy for them, my husband's friends mother worked in cork branch for 20 plus years.
    They are small numbers wise and seemingly spaced out protests/pickets, they have lost their jobs overnight and are trying to get a fair settlement.


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