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Brewdog delivery seized by customs

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  • #32
    Rows Grower
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    Sorry for short post but dinner is on the way.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #33
    Rows Grower
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    Quackster wrote: »
    It would be 'destroyed'.

    It seems a bit cheeky of them to be apparently charging VAT on the whole cost of the beer, rather than just the duty due, but I guess they hold all the cards.

    In the letter I got I was given the option to pay what was owed or the drink would be destroyed or disposed of in another way that is deemed suitable.

    I opted to pay for most of the bottles which were unusual vodka's after it was explained to me how the fee was determined but decided to leave a litre bottle of gin that was well above average strength with the request "that it be given to someone who would appreciate it as it would be a mortal sin to destroy it".

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #34
    Florence Moldy Kiwi
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    I've been in this situation before but not with alcohol, it was a car part from China.

    I refused to pay the charges and the Irish custom's have to return the item to China paying the full postage (god know's how much it cost) they provided me with tracking number which I provided to the seller and got a full refund.

    It's an option there for you of you don't want to pay the customs and get your money back.


  • #35
    Rows Grower
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    Hazel Flat Shuffleboard wrote: »
    I've been in this situation before but not with alcohol, it was a car part from China.

    I refused to pay the charges and the Irish custom's have to return the item to China paying the full postage (god know's how much it cost) they provided me with tracking number which I provided to the seller and got a full refund.

    It's an option there for you of you don't want to pay the customs and get your money back.

    It's not.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #36
    TheChizler
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    Revenue give you the option of paying for duty in advance, has anyone ever done this, is it open to regular people?

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/companies-and-charities/excise-and-licences/general-excise/moving-excise-products.aspx

    I recently bought some Tequila off a Spanish website but they didn't offer delivery to Ireland so I got it delivered to Parcel Wizard instead and UK duties were paid. All worked out fine but I was bricking it in case it was seized. I'd have been happy to pay the duty in advance if I could, would have still worked out much cheaper than buying it locally.


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  • #37
    L1011
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    That's for businesses with licences only.

    Revenue letting punters pay on arrival is new enough, not guaranteed and not something they'll do frequently - if you keep getting caught it'll just be destroyed.


  • #38
    Quackster
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    Hazel Flat Shuffleboard wrote: »
    I've been in this situation before but not with alcohol, it was a car part from China.

    I refused to pay the charges and the Irish custom's have to return the item to China paying the full postage (god know's how much it cost) they provided me with tracking number which I provided to the seller and got a full refund.

    It's an option there for you of you don't want to pay the customs and get your money back.
    Completely different scenario as that invoices customs duty being due on an item you were legitimately importing from outside the EU.

    This involves an excisable product (alcohol) which a private individual is not officially allowed to import by post unless the seller is registered with Revenue for collection of Irish excise duty and VAT.


  • #39
    Rows Grower
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    L1011 wrote: »
    That's for businesses with licences only.

    Revenue letting punters pay on arrival is new enough, not guaranteed and not something they'll do frequently - if you keep getting caught it'll just be destroyed.

    Or disposed of in a way they deem fit, makes more sense for them to charge duty though and the country gains something from it.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #40
    BeerNut
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    makes more sense for them to charge duty though and the country gains something from it.
    There's a cost involved in collecting the duty. If that became a legitimate regular channel they would have to inspect more parcels, costing even more, and the system would soon be swamped. I would certainly use the hell out of it :P

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  • #41
    Rows Grower
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    BeerNut wrote: »
    There's a cost involved in collecting the duty. If that became a legitimate regular channel they would have to inspect more parcels, costing even more, and the system would soon be swamped. I would certainly use the hell out of it :P

    It'll cost no more than it would to have the consignment destroyed or disposed of so it's more beneficial to collect a payment.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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  • #42
    BeerNut
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    It'll cost no more than it would to have the consignment destroyed or disposed of so it's more beneficial to collect a payment.
    I can’t see how you figure that. Think how the volume of items to be dealt with would increase. Think of the number of financial transactions there’d be. The amount of work is going to multiply out compared to the ad hoc rap-on-the-knuckles they do now.

    My beer blog | Bluesky | My other beer blog



  • #43
    Rows Grower
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    BeerNut wrote: »
    I can’t see how you figure that. Think how the volume of items to be dealt with would increase. Think of the number of financial transactions there’d be. The amount of work is going to multiply out compared to the ad hoc rap-on-the-knuckles they do now.

    I'd say your gone off on a different train of thought to what was being discussed, or maybe you're not.

    My point is, if a consignment of alcohol was seized by customs doing a spot check it makes more sense to collect duty and Vat from the person who bought it then it does to have the drink destroyed or disposed of.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #44
    BeerNut
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    My point is, if a consignment of alcohol was seized by customs doing a spot check it makes more sense to collect duty and Vat from the person who bought it then it does to have the drink destroyed or disposed of.
    I agree, if you don't have to do it very often, and this is what Revenue does actually do. But the game changes completely once you try and scale that up, and you would have to scale it up once you make it normal. Genuinely, if Revenue thought they would collect more by having consumers just pay the taxes one at a time, they would do it.
    Rows Grower wrote: »
    I'd say your gone off on a different train of thought to what was being discussed
    Same train, just a few miles further down the tracks.

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  • #45
    tinner777
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    Same here for beer hawk, however not seized by customs, still in their warehouse, asked me to please not to use the service again for beer :-)


  • #46
    tinner777
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    Beer Hawk box finally came today, battered and bruised, no evidence that revenue went near it??


  • #47
    ciaran76
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    Ordered a Brewdog Gin advent calendar and it arrived by DHL today.
    It was in a package that looked too thin to be Beer or standard gin bottle.
    Box was the similar size to a Scrabble box size.

    Anyway no charges so was happy and probably just very lucky.


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