Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

stargazer 68 · 21-10-2020 11:19AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

We all know the people who are saying this. We can hear them clearly because they're not wearing masks and are screaming at people in their hundreds outside Leinster House on alternating Saturdays.

Source?[/QUOTE]

The IPC meetings I have been at!!

MrStuffins · 21-10-2020 11:25AM

stargazer 68 wrote: »

The IPC meetings I have been at!!

Forgive me if I don't take hyberbole as proof.

You might as well have said "I read it on Whats App"

c0rk3r · 21-10-2020 06:16PM

I live in town and there's a few pubs that never closed or took the restrictions seriously. Actually, they did close for 1 week after coming to national attention but were straight back to business after the backlash died down. For the last 5 weeks this area has been rammed with people with not a piece of food in sight.

Walking passed the area again today, 10 minutes ago it feels a little bit like christmas eve. I'll be surprised if we dont see some "wont someone think of the children" videos and pictures later.

The guards were around one evening but as there was no hassle (ridiculous overcrowding / messing) they didn't enforce any measures.

We get what we deserve.

IAMAMORON · 21-10-2020 06:46PM

c0rk3r wrote: »

I live in town and there's a few pubs that never closed or took the restrictions seriously. Actually, they did close for 1 week after coming to national attention but were straight back to business after the backlash died down. For the last 5 weeks this area has been rammed with people with not a piece of food in sight.

Walking passed the area again today, 10 minutes ago it feels a little bit like christmas eve. I'll be surprised if we dont see some "wont someone think of the children" videos and pictures later.

The guards were around one evening but as there was no hassle (ridiculous overcrowding / messing) they didn't enforce any measures.

We get what we deserve.

Thinly veiled anti-pub bash.

Scribed with deliberate antagonism.

MOH · 21-10-2020 07:14PM

c0rk3r wrote: »

I live in town and there's a few pubs that never closed or took the restrictions seriously. Actually, they did close for 1 week after coming to national attention but were straight back to business after the backlash died down. For the last 5 weeks this area has been rammed with people with not a piece of food in sight.

Walking passed the area again today, 10 minutes ago it feels a little bit like christmas eve. I'll be surprised if we dont see some "wont someone think of the children" videos and pictures later.

The guards were around one evening but as there was no hassle (ridiculous overcrowding / messing) they didn't enforce any measures.

We get what we deserve.

How does that indicate that we get what we deserve? If anything it's the opposite. Pubs openly take the utter pss out of the rules suffer no consequences, those who obey the rules go out of business. Customers who'd rather go to somewhere responsibly following restrictions are left with less choices. People who don't care remain unaffected.

Literally nobody in that scenario is getting what they deserve.

freak scence · 21-10-2020 10:42PM

c0rk3r wrote: »

I live in town and there's a few pubs that never closed or took the restrictions seriously. Actually, they did close for 1 week after coming to national attention but were straight back to business after the backlash died down. For the last 5 weeks this area has been rammed with people with not a piece of food in sight.

Walking passed the area again today, 10 minutes ago it feels a little bit like christmas eve. I'll be surprised if we dont see some "wont someone think of the children" videos and pictures later.

The guards were around one evening but as there was no hassle (ridiculous overcrowding / messing) they didn't enforce any measures.

We get what we deserve.

utter scutter

Suckit · 22-10-2020 12:51AM

MOH wrote: »

So why do you keep whining? It's tiresome

Are you 3?

Richard Hillman · 22-10-2020 12:58AM

A 5th Column is arising. An alternative state.

MrStuffins · 22-10-2020 01:43AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

A 5th Column is arising. An alternative state.

This post was definitely written in an alternative state alright!

Dickie10 · 22-10-2020 10:13PM

so is it offical no pubs open til january yet?

PTH2009 · 22-10-2020 10:30PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

so is it offical no pubs open til january yet?

nothing official but if going by Leo and MM comments during the week then not a hope they will open for the rest of the year (Food and Drink pubs)

December will be christmas drinks/GAA finals/Rugby/Premiership etc and we cant be having that esp with this 'deadly virus' still out there and its relationship with targeting people in pubs

The more i think about it the more livid i feel, they have already lost the summer, opened for 3 weeks and then all of a sudden closed again. No reason why they cant open with the same rules/restrictions as Aug/Sep. Have stronger enforcement 'no booking,no entry no exceptions'

This 15 max outdoor bollocks is just not going to work in bloody december in Ireland

Suckit · 22-10-2020 10:52PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

nothing official but if going by Leo and MM comments during the week then not a hope they will open for the rest of the year (Food and Drink pubs)

December will be christmas drinks/GAA finals/Rugby/Premiership etc and we cant be having that esp with this 'deadly virus' still out there and its relationship with targeting people in pubs

The more i think about it the more livid i feel, they have already lost the summer, opened for 3 weeks and then all of a sudden closed again. No reason why they cant open with the same rules/restrictions as Aug/Sep. Have stronger enforcement 'no booking,no entry no exceptions'

This 15 max outdoor bollocks is just not going to work in bloody december in Ireland

The foodless pubs not opening in Summer was a massive fcuk up and the foodless pubs should be appropriately compensated, whether it is some sort of tax allowance, payout or something else I don't know. But it was one thing to close them, another thing entirely to have them all spend thousands to comply with a reopening date that never happened.

However, I am not sure I believe most feigned sympathy for the pubs. It is for the most part purely selfish reasons.
The Aug/Sep rules didn't work. They definitely wouldn't work in December. It is possible that the government are trying to find a way that it will, but as it was, even with tighter restrictions it wouldn't.
The virus is believed to thrive in colder conditions. Whether or not anyone believes the virus is deadly is irrelevant, especially in Ireland. On any given year we struggle with the flu season. The flu doesn't become a high risk of death fear for those that are overweight, have heart conditions, any underlying condition, or are over a certain age.
Replace the flu with something that does all of that, and then put the same amount of people into hospital beds as the flu each year. How long do you honestly think it will be before the hospitals just become mass infected death traps?
Almost everybody in a hospital is there because of 'underlying conditions'. It would be insane.

dominatinMC · 23-10-2020 08:20AM

Dickie10 wrote: »

so is it offical no pubs open til january yet?

Nothing official, but the noises coming out of government aren't exactly inspiring. I'm clinging onto optimism and hope that one of two scenarios transpires;
1. The case numbers (however relevant that metric is - but that's a separate debate) drop sufficiently to a level where the government can go to Level 1/Level 2
2. The government announce in December that we are staying in Level 3 but make exceptions so that pubs and restaurants can trade, and thus they will be lauded for "saving Christmas" - unlikely scenario, I know, but I'm getting desperate here! :pac:

IAMAMORON · 23-10-2020 10:35AM

dominatinMC wrote: »

Nothing official, but the noises coming out of government aren't exactly inspiring. I'm clinging onto optimism and hope that one of two scenarios transpires;
1. The case numbers (however relevant that metric is - but that's a separate debate) drop sufficiently to a level where the government can go to Level 1/Level 2
2. The government announce in December that we are staying in Level 3 but make exceptions so that pubs and restaurants can trade, and thus they will be lauded for "saving Christmas" - unlikely scenario, I know, but I'm getting desperate here! :pac:

The only hope that publicans can cling to currently is a bounce in January or February when things calm down proper. Christmas is synonymous with colds and flus, it would take some flute in government at this stage to recommend reopening for a few weeks. The damage is done, at least publicans and staff are getting their faith telegraphed.

With any luck the virus will have riddled the schools enough by Christmas that a decent herd immunity is settling in. There are just under a million persons in Irish Primary and secondary education. Given the lack of symptoms that kids and teenagers are showing it is fairly obvious what is going on here. At some point this will have to start working. It is the very reason we are seeing current increases, that, an also the virus has now gone nationwide proper. Before this wave it was centralised in Dublin and its' surrounding network.

If we are lucky we should be seeing this surreptitious strategy working before too long.

PTH2009 · 24-10-2020 08:34PM

Jesus the Pubs are missing out on a massive super saturday next weekend

GAA championships in full swing
Liverpool vs West Ham
Last day of the 6 Nations with France vs Ireland on at 8pm
Then add the festivities of Halloween

Will the government let the pubs open for December ??? no they wont cause they predict the virus will spread in the settings

Dickie10 · 24-10-2020 11:41PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Jesus the Pubs are missing out on a massive super saturday next weekend

GAA championships in full swing
Liverpool vs West Ham
Last day of the 6 Nations with France vs Ireland on at 8pm
Then add the festivities of Halloween

Will the government let the pubs open for December ??? no they wont cause they predict the virus will spread in the settings

sure pubs have missed out on absolutly everything the whole year, paddys weekend,easter,may bank holiday weekend, june bank holiday weeked, galway races, august bank holiday eekend, october bank holiday weekend, next saturday as you say and finally xmas.

wouldnt be over confident of next paddys day either, but surely there should be a mssive push to have us restriction free or level 1-2 by paddys day?

PTH2009 · 25-10-2020 12:23AM

Dickie10 wrote: »

sure pubs have missed out on absolutly everything the whole year, paddys weekend,easter,may bank holiday weekend, june bank holiday weeked, galway races, august bank holiday eekend, october bank holiday weekend, next saturday as you say and finally xmas.

wouldnt be over confident of next paddys day either, but surely there should be a mssive push to have us restriction free or level 1-2 by paddys day?

should be a massive push for the government to let the pubs trade in December in a similar way they did in Aug/Sep. Obv places will have to be tougher in regards bookings/maximum numbers etc. Eliminate the 12 pubs crap which in itself will be a tough job

Wishful thinking and more than likely the xmas piss up factor will be the decision maker for the government to keep them closed. You can be sure Pubs will be open across Europe/UK in some form

MrStuffins · 25-10-2020 01:16AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

should be a massive push for the government to let the pubs trade in December in a similar way they did in Aug/Sep.

Pfft! If this happens you'll still have people here completely ignoring it and pretending the pubs aren't actually open, like they were back in Aug/Sept.

Calling for support for publicans, but then not going for a pint because, for some reason, they pretend all the pubs are still closed. Crazy!

vojiwox · 25-10-2020 02:04AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Jesus the Pubs are missing out on a massive super saturday next weekend

GAA championships in full swing
Liverpool vs West Ham
Last day of the 6 Nations with France vs Ireland on at 8pm
Then add the festivities of Halloween

Will the government let the pubs open for December ??? no they wont cause they predict the virus will spread in the settings

What's so super about Liverpool vs West ham?

MrStuffins · 25-10-2020 02:07AM

vojiwox wrote: »

What's so super about Liverpool vs West ham?

The most impressive part was the fact that they managed to play one another, despite the fact that West Ham played City today and Liverpool played Sheff United.

Two games in a day? Who says footballers are overpaid?

vojiwox · 25-10-2020 02:08AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

The most impressive part was the fact that they managed to play one another, despite the fact that West Ham played City today and Liverpool played Sheff United.

Two games in a day? Who says footballers are overpaid?

Next weekend...

MrStuffins · 25-10-2020 02:10AM

vojiwox wrote: »

Next weekend...

Today was the real.sport day.

Four Prem games
Ireland in the Six Nations
UFC 254

This was definitely one of those days where you really miss the pub!

PommieBast · 25-10-2020 02:13AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Last day of the 6 Nations with France vs Ireland on at 8pm

Didn't even realise 6-nations was back. The earlier matches were my last memory of pre-lockdown life

sporina · 25-10-2020 05:45PM

So was in the city earlier (Cork) and saw people drinking beer out of plastic pint glasses on the street.. assumed they had their own cans or what ever... but then saw a few pubs selling alcohol for take away - is this legal? just wondering.. like how does that bode with "no drinking on the street laws" etc?

Faridaweeda · 25-10-2020 05:47PM

sporina wrote: »

So was in the city earlier (Cork) and saw people drinking beer out of plastic pint glasses on the street.. assumed they had their own cans or what ever... but then saw a few pubs selling alcohol for take away - is this legal? just wondering.. like how does that bode with the no drinking on the street laws etc?

Let people enjoy themselves stop being a vigilante

vafankillar · 25-10-2020 06:12PM

sporina wrote: »

So was in the city earlier (Cork) and saw people drinking beer out of plastic pint glasses on the street.. assumed they had their own cans or what ever... but then saw a few pubs selling alcohol for take away - is this legal? just wondering.. like how does that bode with "no drinking on the street laws" etc?

as far as I know, level 5 allows take away pints, there is no national public drinking law in ireland but you must be 100m away from where you bought it and you can be done for being dangerously drunk. I think many places have local by laws about public drinking though and no idea about cork

SweetCaliber · 25-10-2020 06:12PM

Pubs are allowed do takeaway and delivery under Level 5, so yes the pubs are acting legally.

Beasty · 25-10-2020 06:13PM

Threads merged

The White Wolf · 25-10-2020 06:21PM

SweetCaliber wrote: »

Pubs are allowed do takeaway and delivery under Level 5, so yes the pubs are acting legally.

I'd say that's hard to swallow for some people unlike the pints.

The Continental Op · 25-10-2020 06:25PM

SweetCaliber wrote: »

Pubs are allowed do takeaway and delivery under Level 5, so yes the pubs are acting legally.

TOTTALY ILLEGAL for pubs to sell beer thats then drunk outside on the road.

Takeaway and delivery fine. Drinking on the streets could affect the pubs license afaik.

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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